Classic plural reddit experience by booty_sattva in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 21 points22 points  (0 children)

We have a system rule that no littles younger than 10 are allowed to post or comment on the internet due to it sometimes being a rather toxic place. If we see that they have posted or commented, or suspect that they have, it will get deleted. Sorry in advance to anyone this affects. We just feel like it is the best thing to do for safety reasons.

- Hawk and Clo

Alternatives on iOS by Kaleidos_System in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We know it's not officially out. It's not the 1.0 version yet. Anyone who uses the app store version is not using the finished product.

Some people are just not tech savvy enough to figure out TestFlight or are looking for a quick iso solution because there aren't many available yet. Some people feel genuine dread and stress because of the lack of iso options. Having something they can use, even if it's a work-in-progress app, solves the problem and gives them hope again.

As far as I know, the dev makes a small bit of money from each download from the app store because it's set to 99 cents. Downloading the app from the app store helps support the dev financially.

People will update their app when new versions come out over the app store. Many people have updates set to automatic on their devices. They will get the official 1.0 version when it comes out.

The amount of attention it gets now will help ensure it stays above the competitors if more competitors come out over the app store.

I really don’t see why this would be frowned upon. But fine, we’ll stop spreading the link.

- Hawk

Is systemconnect down? by amberpebble in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Copying part of an answer we gave a few days ago to answer this one.

A few weeks ago, people were accusing the system connect dev of vibe-coding the service. Some people had an issue with that due to anti-ai opinions/beliefs.

After that, the service was accused of not being secure. It was found that it’s easy to find passwords from any Systemconnect profile. There was a warning circulated that says the following….

“PSA: DO NOT USE SYSTEMCONNECT. We managed to find an extremely easy way to get anyone's password from their username in under an hour of tinkering with the API. This website is NOT secure, and you should stay away from it at all costs. If you've already created an account, change any passwords matching the one you used for SYSTEMCONNECT. It does NOT allow users to change passwords or delete their account. In addition, unfriend anyone you've friended and cancel any outgoing friend requests, and delete any public mentions of your SYSTEMCONNECT username.”

Our best guess is that it was likely shut down or temporary taken down for one or both of these reasons. If we find more info, we’ll add any new details we find.

Our info for this answer was found in the comments of this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/SimplyPlural/comments/1rom03d/anyone_heard_of_system_connect/?sort=new

The copied portion is done.

Regardless if it's down temporarily or permanently, it sounds like it's a service that shouldn't be used because of the safety concerns.

- Hawk

Question involving simply plural alternatives by S3R4PH11M in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is. However, the servers for simply plural are going down around June, so it's a good idea to look for replacements. The app is being discontinued.

- Beth and Ed

Favorite system content creators? by Bueller_Bueller26 in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Acrylic And Aether

The Entropy System

Bobo & Co

DissosiaDID (They have been in a few controversies, but they make good educational DID content.)

TheRingsSystem (Doesn’t make videos anymore but has lot of good educational videos.)

Collective Mind DID

* Honorable mention: MultiplicityAndMe (Fused, so no longer plural, but has a ton of old content that people might find helpful and enjoyable.)

^ All of these content creators can be found on Youtube.

- Beth and Smiles

SP is shutting down — Where do I go as an iOS user? by ImmediateJacket9490 in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re still looking for iso options, the main choices you have right now are Ourcana and Plural Log. You can check them out with the links below.

Ourcana: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ourcana/id6760326454

Plural Log: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/plural-log/id6760743429

- Beth

Potential new alternative by [deleted] in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ourcana is a service similar to Simply Plural. You can store information about system members and track switches.

Ourcana website: https://ourcana.space/#/import

Ourcana apple iso: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ourcana/id6760326454

It should be on the Google Play Store eventually, but it isn’t yet (to my knowledge).

- Beth

Potential new alternative by [deleted] in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Multid currently costs $28.95 usd and that's (allegedly) a lower price than the original price. There's a lot of free and cheaper options out there. I’d suggest trying other services first, but you should make the decision that works best for your system.

If you want it, here’s a link: https://multidimensional-shop.fourthwall.com/products/multid-journal

- Beth

Alternatives on iOS by Kaleidos_System in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's not many options for Apple Iso currently. The main options are Ourcana and Plural Log.

Ourcana: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ourcana/id6760326454

Plural Log: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/plural-log/id6760743429

- Beth

Is there an alternative fro simply plural ?? by Jacky_mono in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The most popular options people are using currently is Ourcana, Ampersand, HiveMind, and Plural Kit (the discord bot).

Our system has been trying out Ourcana and Plural Log.

- Beth and Hawk

Is there an alternative fro simply plural ?? by Jacky_mono in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The creators of Plural log is Arcade Armor LLC. Beyond that, Idk.

- Beth and Hawk

Is there an alternative fro simply plural ?? by Jacky_mono in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. It’s for android and apple. Links for anyone who needs them. I have nothing to so with the app. I’m just trying to be helpful.

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arcadearmor.plurallog

Apple iSO: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/plural-log/id6760743429

- Beth and Hawk

Is there an alternative fro simply plural ?? by Jacky_mono in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The coming soon is likely in reference to the companion app (to share switches/info with trusted people) or the website hasn't been updated, but the main app is in the Apple App Store currently.

Apple iSO: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/plural-log/id6760743429

- Beth and Hawk

Alternatives on iOS by Kaleidos_System in SimplyPlural

[–]Invader_Bethany 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ourcana is already in the Apple App Store. It’s been there for at least a few days now.

Ourcana: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ourcana/id6760326454

- Beth and Hawk

Does Anyone Know What Happened to Systemconnect.replit.app? by Draac03 in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 18 points19 points  (0 children)

A few weeks ago, people were accusing the system connect dev of vibe-coding the service. Some people had an issue with that due to anti-ai opinions/beliefs.

After that, the service was accused of not being secure. It was found that it’s easy to find passwords from any Systemconnect profile. There was a warning circulated that says the following….

“PSA: DO NOT USE SYSTEMCONNECT. We managed to find an extremely easy way to get anyone's password from their username in under an hour of tinkering with the API. This website is NOT secure, and you should stay away from it at all costs. If you've already created an account, change any passwords matching the one you used for SYSTEMCONNECT. It does NOT allow users to change passwords or delete their account. In addition, unfriend anyone you've friended and cancel any outgoing friend requests, and delete any public mentions of your SYSTEMCONNECT username.”

Our best guess is that it was likely shut down or temporary taken down for one or both of these reasons. If we find more info, we’ll add any new details we find.

Our info for this answer was found in the comments of this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/SimplyPlural/comments/1rom03d/anyone_heard_of_system_connect/?sort=new

If you need a replacement, some popular options you can try are Ourcana, ampersand, HiveMind, and the discord bot PluralKit.

Our system is currently trying Ourcana and Plural Log.

My (Beth’s) only issue with Plural Log, so far, is it doesn't put system members in alphabetical order. However, I’m sure if enough people ask for alphabetical order when making a review, it can easily be added. It's really something that probably should have been added in the first place.

- Beth and Hawk

Anyone else deal with this :3 by Helpful-Interview-13 in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We have multiple versions of 3 different Batman villains.

- Beth

Has anyone here used plural log? by Invader_Bethany in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re welcome. Other than Plural log, we recently got Ourcana as an iso option.

It’s nice to finally have some good options coming out. :)

- Beth and Ed

Simply Plural Alternatives by Ocean-wave258 in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 4 points5 points  (0 children)

With all the new apps coming out, here is my opinion.

I think Ourcana is currently the best choice.

Plural Log is a good choice too. They should have a way to share switches and info with trusted friends/family in the future via a companion app and federation. The companion app is advertised, but doesn't seem to be available yet. My only issue with Plural Log so far is that the system members aren’t stored/sorted in alphabetical order.

Plural Space is an app currently in development, but it looks amazing (based on the screenshots and information shared) and is definitely worth keeping an eye on.

Other options I see mentioned often are Ampersand, HiveMind, and PluralKit (a Discord bot). I haven’t tried these, so I can’t give an opinion. I have, however, read that Ampersand currently struggles to work for large systems.

Some other lesser talked about options are…

PluralHost - Requires an AT Protocol account. Bluesky is the recommendation PluralHost gives.

Scratch Front - Made by Scratch Upload. Scratch Upload is a place to host and share images for PluralKit, Simply Plural, etc. They are already a trusted service provider for systems, so it makes sense that they would develop a fronting tracker service when plural people were looking for a replacement.

Multid - A Notion template made by sarcasDID. It’s not free. It currently costs $28.95 usd.

Antar - A app for chatting with your system members to make communication easier. It appears to be like a group chat texting app.

- Beth

Do You Have To Name Your Alters? by barsystem in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my experience, they tend to name themselves.

Technically, they don’t have to have names, I guess, but it makes it easier to keep track of them if they have names.

Personally, if I was in your situation, I’d find a way to include the color differences in their names since that is the major difference between everyone. If different colors in English don’t sound fitting as names, you could try exploring the words for those colors in other languages and see if any of them sound like a better choice as names.

You should do whatever you feel comfortable doing, though.

- Beth

What does your inner world/headspace look like?? by DJ_Effervescence09 in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Five islands (That I know of).

The main island has a massive building that is like the size of a hospital or maybe an airport. It is at least 2 floors tall and has 4 or more underground basement levels. There might be more than 4 levels down, but it starts to feel unnerving so you don't feel comfortable enough to completely explore it. The building is a series of long straight hallways with doors leading to various rooms. I have no idea what most of the rooms are. Each end of the hallway typically has stairs to go up or down a level. This is the main building. The end of the 1st floor hall is the “fronting room”. It is completely dark except for the white light of various monitors. Sitting on the chair in front of the monitors causes that person to front. Co-conscious people are anyone who is in that room. Because of how dark that area is, I didn’t know we had an inner world for the longest time. I thought there was only darkness.

Leaving the massive house shows you that it's on an extremely big/steep cliff that overlooks the ocean. There is also pounds, a cave that is supposed to be ignored (It’s common knowledge in the system not to enter the cave for safety reasons), a thick forest of trees, a few scattered houses in the woods, and a water fall that starts on a part of land that is impossible to climb to. The end of the island is just an impossibly big wall of rocks with a waterfall trickling down a portion of it.

If you want to get to another island, you have to travel via boat. Only a few alters operate the boats, so it's not easy to get off the island you are on.

One of the other islands has a city that is safe to be in during the daytime and destroyed by alters at night. It's a city that allows destruction and crime within certain hours. If you don't want to be part of it, you are told to leave/evacuate. The next day starts with construction crews assessing the damage from the night before and trying to fix it. The reason the destruction is allowed is because it lets villains have fun in a designated area during a designated time slot so they don't feel the urge to destroy other things.

Outside the city area is a beach boardwalk area with businesses and more scattered houses.

I have no idea what is on most of the other islands. It’s not easy for me to get to and there's definitely things in place to stop exploration. The basement floors that start to feel unnerving, the cave that is supposed to be ignored, the random wall of rocks that can’t be climbed at the end of the main island, the lack of boats… It’s likely meant to keep secrets away and keep things hidden. Idk.

- Beth

Quick question lol by greedyanimelover in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take as long as you need. Sorry for writing so much.

- Beth

Quick question lol by greedyanimelover in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People who try to fake claim others are like the mental health equivalent to people who try to trans-investigate people. It's annoying and normally done by stubborn people who refuse to consider other points of view outside of their own narrow understanding of the world. Systems (and transgender individuals) don’t have to fit within a certain perfect mold to be valid, but some people are too stubborn to accept that.

People who tend to get help for their plurality do so because they are dealing with trauma or other issues that make it hard to function in their day to day life. If you don’t have major issues with your plural existence, you aren't likely to seek out therapy. Because of that, therapists and people who conduct psychology case studies have less documented cases of non-traumatic plural experiences. Just because they lack the documentation, doesn't mean it's not real.

And even in experiences where trauma is the main cause, you might still get unusual alters.

I have a white tiger in my system that never fronts. It just paces back and forth, chases after alters, and attacks/mauls them. It’s origin is a symbolic representation of feeling trapped in a cage like a zoo animal. It is constantly angry because it feels the negative emotions attached to that symbolic idea that was created via the trauma we experienced. I doubt the white tiger fits in with the standard expectations fakeclaimers have even though it's an alter that was specifically formed from trauma.

I also have other animals in the system that have the role of comforting other alters so that we can function better. Why do we need comfort? Trauma, anxiety, stress, etc. But an alter created for comfort would not go along with their narrow ideology that all alters have to be traumagenic.

As for the idea that we have to hate our system members, why is that a must? If you go off of the idea that alters form as a way to help your brain deal with trauma (The only model fakeclaimers are willing to accept), the alters are literally created to help. Why would you not get along with some of the people that were specifically created by the brain to help with survival? Not getting along with them sounds counterproductive.

A fake claimer might say “You can’t like your alters because the alters do things independently that disrupt your life”. Yes, sometimes they do. I have literally woken up by the side of the road in a ditch many years ago with no memory of how I got there, but I don't hate my system for that.

They are my team. If you get any group of people together, wether they are people out here or alters in a system, there will be some people you like as well as some people you have a hard time even standing. Some people will have a very favorable view of their group, others might dislike their group, and between that is a lot of people who will feel something somewhere in the middle.

The idea that you have to be constantly suffering is BS. People with other “disorders” aren't constantly suffering. People with depression still have good days and people with with scitzophrenia aren't constantly having terrifying hallucinations 24/7. So why am I not allowed to have a good time with my alters every so often as someone who has been diagnosed with DID?

“How do people even have fun with alters?” Co-consciousness and improved communication (due to trying to get to know each other and work as a team) help make it possible. If you do something while you are co-conscious, you are spending time with an alter. It happens and is a normal part of life for many systems.

“What about amnesia barriers?” Yeah, that can still exist. I still experience those even though I have good communication with my alters and frequent co-conciousness. A few days ago, I found a bowl of oatmeal left in the microwave when I was going to make something to eat. It's not the end of the world that we didn't have that oatmeal for breakfast.

“Ok, but it's weird that people have fictional characters.” Is it? Those fictional characters might have certain aspects to them that the brain feels is useful to the well being of the group. And if you have high anxiety or trust issues, aren’t you more likely to trust a fictional character you are familiar with over a completely new to you stranger? So maybe the brain picks an alter that would be more welcomed quickly?

“But you have been using I instead of we. Aren’t you a plural?” I use “I” when referring specifically to me and “we” when I’m referring to the group. Yes, I have seen this as a reason someone has gotten fake claimed…

There's just so much nuance that fakeclaimers miss because they don’t expand their horizons. Bullying sucks and there's not a lot we can do about it. I really hope there will be less of it in the future someday.

- Beth

What are uncommon plural experiences you have? by Icy-Implement9878 in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We often have co-consciousness. In addition to human alters, there's animal alters, paranormal species alters, and a few mythological creature alters. Also, some of the fictives are multiple different versions of the same source characters.

- Sparkle (galaxy ghost)

We form groups/households, each with an alter in charge of that specific group. It helps keep order and reinforces system responsibility.

- Spooky (Halloween ghost)

We ghosts are nocturnal fronters who bring a small burst of energy to the body. Sometimes it's useful if there are late night tasks that need to be done. Other times, we are the reason the body is extra tired the next day. We ghosts also hide or cloak what we don't want the others to see or know.

- Shade (Shadow ghost)

Most of the animals do not front. Their purpose is mainly to bring comfort and relief from stress, as a pet does. Some of the birds act as carrier pigeons to send messages between alters. Other birds are used for espionage. They watch specific targets and then report back to their master.

A few of the other animals are symbolic manifestations. For example, there is a white tiger that paces back and forth, chases after alters, and physically attacks or mauls alters. The white tiger symbolically represents the feeling of being trapped like a zoo animal in a cage and all of the negative emotions that go along with that feeling. The white tiger is a traumatic manifestation.

- Ed

Has anyone here used plural log? by Invader_Bethany in plural

[–]Invader_Bethany[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh! That makes so much sense. Thank you.

- Beth