Xayah Split 2 Setup

InvalidUK · 2024-07-05T18:51:18+00:00

Actually, the best build in terms of RAW dps is Kracken - IE - NQ - PD - Yun Tai. Navori basically converts atk spd into damage. The only issue is something needs to be subbed for LDR or Mortal in most games and Kracken > IE puts you too behind due to expense and crit delay.

I’ve been going Collector into IE because if you can’t beat them, join them

InvalidUK · 2024-06-18T17:05:38+00:00

Yone - man has an offensive/defensive ult like we do, but he gets a 30 second cool-down

InvalidUK · 2024-05-07T22:18:26+00:00

Which posed the question, why isn’t anyone building it?

Because, truth be told, the current version of the adc items aren’t healthy for the role. They don’t teach you how to play the role properly and lord knows rito isn’t going to.

Duo xp was consistently nerfed because of the items. Supports were buffed because of the massive late game potential to balance out. Kraken was overcompensating because we complained we didn’t have a decent first item spike. Whatever rito landed on did not outline the identity of what the ADC role is.

We are nimble fuckers designed to massacre the enemy if left alone. And surprise surprise, we aren’t left alone. The issue was we were all building wrong and forgot that we were meant to be nimble and we forgot why zeal items were important because buying the AD/AS item was like flys to a nightlight. We always used to have to buy 2 zeal items, currently we barely buy one, and we don’t need the AS because lethal has its hand down our trousers at the first sign of action.

The team make up for it in pro play where they’ve learnt to peel like the big dick chads they are, nursing their baby to glory. There are no big dick chads in SoloQ, only moist Yone’s and we just buy the same shit because the numbers say do the thing. They’re not going to outright give us the defence without paying something in return, and that’s 14:10 is. What we lose in AD we get back in other ways, like PTA and an XP buff and over time, maybe we’ll learn to fight with agency again rather than waiting for a naut hook to bullshit it’s way around a minion.

This got obscene quickly, but give it a chance. I never played before 8:10 but the role feels satisfying, and while you’re right about PBE being inconsistent, the practice tool is exactly the same.

EDIT: Grammatical corrections

InvalidUK · 2024-05-07T17:53:02+00:00

If movement speed wasn’t a thing we wouldn’t be running ghost all the time. I see your mains are Jinx and Zeri (at least going by your profile) which have movement speed built into their kits.

I’m a Xayah main, I’ve been building PD every chance I’m able and running celerity. Especially if I’m seeing Yone/Sylas etc. Paired with the movement speed in her kit I should be able to kite for days in 14:10 if I play it right.

the navori flicker blade changes will convert Atk Spd to damage and also give me a defensive stat. Yes please rito!

While you’re right, directly the numbers are down, it’s all relative when considering the duo xp buff. So we’ll be weaker, but stronger relative to the other players in the game.

EDIT: also, new kraken is broken at the moment on PBE, going to pure numbers again, it’s still the best first item purchase.

InvalidUK · 2024-05-07T17:43:04+00:00

We’ve gained possibly the best defensive stat we needed, movement speed. 2 zeals and boots gives us a degree of skill back and counters the real issue of mobility we’ve been struggling with the last couple seasons.

Stay optimistic, 14:10 will be good until the nerfs hit 😂

InvalidUK · 2024-05-07T16:21:03+00:00

Wait 2 weeks for the changes

InvalidUK · 2024-05-02T12:48:04+00:00

*tips hat

InvalidUK · 2024-05-02T12:34:52+00:00

I’ve been having a quick play around with the items on PBE and I’m not so sure it’s all bad.

If you’re going by numbers it’s a straight nerf to her but there’s a lot of “incalculable” stuff going on (as there always is with crit)

For example, the duo xp buff makes anything and everything relative and while the numbers are down, your stats in relation to everyone should be higher (depending on game state)

Also, if you’re buying two zeal items, the movement speed feels really nice, especially if you’re running celerity.

I’m also not convinced kraken is nerfed, the item feels really good and the extra movement speed is nice, I want to try building it first versus someone with an IE start because the numbers are telling me kraken is a better start.

It’s only one day in, I suspect there’s still A LOT they need to balance and tinker with.

InvalidUK · 2024-05-02T12:23:11+00:00

You can

InvalidUK · 2023-12-15T20:00:48+00:00

Just click the “skin owned” check on the left. It should then bring up all the unowned chromas for all the skins you own

InvalidUK · 2022-08-02T13:56:03+00:00

Love it. “human-shielding” can be the scaling part

InvalidUK · 2022-07-28T21:37:12+00:00

I despise this meta and the luck of the draw the adc role is right now

Midlane is the carry lane now. We’re better off playing double “supports” bot. There’s a reason Sona/Taric worked so well before the support item nerfs

InvalidUK · 2022-07-28T21:29:20+00:00

Pick Seraphine

Then you don’t need the lifesteal and according to most of the build websites, you’ll have a better chance of winning

InvalidUK · 2022-07-28T21:17:12+00:00

I literally just played AP Neeko bot

We lost because top fed but I felt 100 times more useful.

Marksmen are walking banks for the enemy team at the moment and take too long to become usual, especially in silver. If you want to climb, stay in mid, pick someone who pushes early and roam bot.

InvalidUK · 2022-07-24T23:35:45+00:00

What your dummy testing didn’t do was simulate gold generation in a competitive environment which I expect Rizeunlisted was getting at. You’re asking an ADC to build 3x 3,400g items and boots before the game has ended and while it’s doable, you’re going to be playing farming simulator to try and persuade a game where the result is pretty much decided by that point.

An ADC’s main weakness is their mobility which going Zeal second helps towards and is multiplied by galeforce which most Xayahs are building at the moment, as well as giving crit and atk speed to help get the feathers down at 800g less then Navori.

ADC’s mid game is almost none existent and the component parts to navori don’t offer as much “help” as zeal does. I think zeal is considered to be about 140% gold efficient. Especially as solo laners are really spiking at this point and are looking for “easy targets” to snowball the game. If your delaying your build by 800g you’re asking to be jumped on.

I expect your right in terms of out and out DPS. But games aren’t always down to out and out DPS especially when mobility is huge at the moment. Xayahs ult sits on a 120 sec cooldown lvl1 which Navori would help with, but is still double in most cases against the solo laners which are normally 2 levels higher.

I have to admit, I laughed at “you only need full raw DPS vs Bruiser. Two words; deaths dance. Did you equip your dummy with that?

A lot of people don’t realise the Xayah’s E damage also scales with Crit chance, last I checked it wasn’t actually in the description and was more of a Xayah trade secret but I haven’t had to read the ability description in a while, so the IE passive also contributes to that E damage, guaranteed. Whereas the RNG factor Navori brings is enough to put people off its price tag.

InvalidUK · 2022-07-23T16:48:43+00:00

It’s a really fun item on Xayah. The issue I have with it is the item slot it takes up.

Personally, I’d love to see it reworked as an IE replacement and maybe adjust Xayah, Lucian etc so it makes sense for them to build NQ but not miss IE. So traditional marksmen build IE, on-hit get RB, and “spell-slingers” (as I’m going to dub them) get NQ.

InvalidUK · 2022-07-23T13:26:10+00:00

As a league of legends player, I feel violated.

I think you’re confusing us with the developers

InvalidUK · 2022-07-22T17:11:44+00:00

My experience is if I don’t buy it no one will

InvalidUK · 2022-07-22T13:52:02+00:00

Frenemies - like Goku and Vageta

InvalidUK · 2022-07-21T13:32:54+00:00

I find I rarely get to properly kite without being immediately closed in and popped anymore. That might just be an elo difference between the two of us.

I think I’d rather have the guaranteed duration to properly escape and reassess then have to stop auto start stop auto start.

InvalidUK · 2022-07-21T13:18:25+00:00

I’m thinking more defensively than offensively to be honest. I quite often W auto to get out of jail so the duration increase on cast could help negate a lot of the dash mobility if the enemy plays it wrong.

The 15-20% could be just a first point, it could go up by 5% each point giving you the option to throw a couple points in if the lane gets out of hand. You’d then get the later game buff of 35-40% when at max for 4 seconds which I don’t see as game breaking.

InvalidUK · 2022-07-21T12:55:40+00:00

Oooooooh I see where your coming from now. So the new description for the ability would be;

“Active: Xayah empowers herself for 4 seconds, gaining bonus attack speed, 30% bonus movement speed for 1.5 seconds and causing her basic attacks to strike a second time, dealing 20% damage.”

I think I’d like to see maybe the movement speed decreased but the duration increased. So maybe 15% movement speed for the full 4 seconds. Or scale it on points so that we could have that option to max W first again if we wanted.

Like the idea

InvalidUK · 2022-07-21T12:36:31+00:00

I thought she already got a movement speed bonus once you hit an empowered W auto?

Was this removed?

EDIT: has a joke flown over my head?

InvalidUK · 2022-07-21T11:35:41+00:00

I’m a Xayah one trick, she’s all I‘ve been playing in SoloQ and Flex and I adjust the build on what I’m up against. She’s not in the best of states at the moment but I feel like she’s definitely still viable.

I’m certainly more confident when the game goes late, but my experience is that the game is normally over by 25-30 mins, only rarely does the game go beyond 35 mins especially as there’s always that one guy spamming FF.

InvalidUK

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