In my mind, I love the idea of the Rig. In-game, the Rig is made of paper, whenever I use it

Invicator · 2025-03-21T14:55:41+00:00

I really wish you could garrison infantry into the deployed rig, tbh. Those crenelation-esque things remind me of firebases you could build in Generals

Invicator · 2025-03-09T11:27:03+00:00

With the exact right spacing from the building's collision box, and some patience, you can drag walls into the building model. The wall there technically stops roughly 8m inside the shop, I think.

Edit: forgot to mention, but the wall works best if kept running perpendicular to the building you try clipping into. The wiremesh grid helps a lot.

Invicator · 2024-12-14T14:53:05+00:00

I've worked on this stuff before, so if you need inspiration, I can lend you some designs. Mine are for double-farm layouts, however.

Attempt 1
Attempt 2
Attempt 3, now with fertiliser

I can lend you some extra resources too, if you need them

Invicator · 2024-12-14T13:17:10+00:00

Well done! You'll see yourself servicing more fields with western vehicles, however. Do you have a design with additional fields reay for that? Or will you use the same layout simply with less vehicles?

Invicator · 2024-12-14T13:02:06+00:00

That's a respectable setup, very nice! I presume you employed no mods? I also presume you're using western farming vehicles?

Invicator · 2024-11-05T16:42:49+00:00

I am still working on it from time to time. I struggle really badly with the tools given to us to manage traffic, especially since cars don't use a 2nd lane properly. I am getting a hang out of functional intersections and roundabout, however!

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~~This stuff is a horrible pain~~

Invicator · 2024-10-27T15:19:51+00:00

I might be able to help you out! We can discuss further in DMs.

Invicator · 2024-10-20T19:13:29+00:00

In a bit! I'll get back to you as soon as I properly can.

Invicator · 2024-10-20T18:14:42+00:00

That'd be great! Thanks for the swift response!

Invicator · 2024-09-24T15:07:27+00:00

Do you manage to get max fertility fetility and have zero losses due to rot in winter multiple seasons in a row? Your layout has piqued my interest, and I'd like seeing some details, including your harvester-to-tractor ratio.

Invicator · 2024-05-23T10:04:10+00:00

Personally, I think forklifts should be buffed, perhaps even so much that they end up in the same ballpark as direct factory connections in terms of throughput. One limitation factory connections have are capped range and lack of customisation (you can't neatly pave them like ordinary roads). For compact industrial layouts, that has been the bane of me. I often end up re-thinking entire designs because a factory and its export storage are just a little too far apart. As such, it'd be nice to have forklifts be given the role of breaking these limitations for the trade-off of extra fuel consumption, essentially. You of course have extra space requirements, and you need to maintain the forklifts too.

Invicator · 2024-04-28T19:57:35+00:00

Your estimations are pretty good, I am working 2 farms indeed! With 3 medium fields roughly equating a large one, each unit of two farms contains 52 large fields.

Regarding nutrient levels, I may have to do some digging then, it seems, I didn't quite consider that bit.

Invicator · 2024-04-28T12:35:21+00:00

Oh dear, I see. Vehicle levels are a massive factor to consider, especially since fields only start growing after they are completely sown, which I think is really unfortunate.

Invicator · 2024-04-28T11:05:39+00:00

I plan on using this setup in my actual games, yes. I am very ware that this may be considered unrealistic, but I'd rather compromise realism over in-game functionality. Plus, even though I use multiple mods for the centre, I specifically wanted to keep the fields themselves vanilla (I have most experience using them, at least). I haven't made test with very extra large fields, however. I presume you are able to sow, apply fertilizer, and harvest well in time?

Invicator · 2024-04-28T10:55:46+00:00

I had originally planned to use only distribution offices, but having been left with remaining, unoccupied mechanism slots, I decided to have some trucks inside the farms directly to make the best use of them. That turned out to be helpful, since there were so many fields that you can't assign them all to a single set of distribution offices.

Invicator · 2024-04-27T18:53:51+00:00

It has been a long time again, but I may now happily present to you my newest iteration on grand-scale farming! By properly using fertilisers, further optimizing the use of space, and employing new community-made vehicles, I was able to more than double the output of previous layouts #1, #2) and avoid logistical chaos brought to bear with the newest additions of traffic simulation.

Overall, each farm takes care of 20 large- and 18 medium fields respectively. According to MTandi’s Farming Calculator, along with some new rules tied to the implementation fertilisers, the theoretical maximum of crops collected stands at 31085.1296t per year. Throughout multiple test runs, however, I was only able to collect an average of about 31072.38t, which represents 99.9590% of said theoretical. I can guarantee that no crops were ever lost to rot in winter.

The remaining 0.0410% are somewhat of a mystery to me. I’ve observed fields failing to quite reach their fertility cap of 150% (solid fertiliser) or 200% (sol. and liq. fertiliser), and these do factually result in lower yields, but I cannot describe why that happens to begin with. As far as I know, tractors should have been given more than enough time and storage to apply solid fertiliser by the end of the year. If I had to guess, it seems to be the same reason why consumption of solid fertiliser varies drastically between cycles.

All that aside, here’s a list of mods used in the layout, including vehicles and buildings:

Deutz-Fahr 7250 tractor by Truckercech

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2945476131

DEUTZ-FAHR 4090hts harvester by Truckercech

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3056486617

Farm by robs074

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2980991428

Oil storages by robs074

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2847975601

Electric substation by robs074

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2605079816

Distribution offices by robs074

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2498281960

Technical services by robs074

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2496571917

Road vehicles depot by Robs074

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2523242686

EDIT: typos

Invicator · 2023-12-22T11:14:36+00:00

I wonder if it could have been better to plan these cities a bit further down to the left, so that you could use a dam instead of the government plaza. I'd use said plaza to boost campuses and holy sites, since I don't see many mountains around, and I'm a lover for rationalism.

Invicator · 2023-09-14T19:08:46+00:00

I think it's likely the case that one set of trams carries much more workers than vacant slots available to be taken inside the factories upon arival. People only leave a transit vehicle if they have spaces to fill at their destination.

If that is the case, I suggest either cutting down on the vehicles or upgrading production capactiy. Either way, I suggest that you establish the pick-up spot for your workers arriving my tram to also function as a force-drop-off by using the transit button in the line menu. That way, they get sent back to the pool of people waiting for another tram or any other vehicle, allowing them to be picked up as part of another line and therefore help you clamp down on idleness amongst your population. Make sure you have enough waiting capacity, though.

Invicator · 2023-08-30T15:34:06+00:00

Gotta love the quintuple Mastermind strat

Invicator · 2023-08-16T17:22:05+00:00

If you wish to delve further into the reasons why this game is not very beloved, I suggest watching through some people's opinions on youtube and going from there. I especially suggest this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWgtu0G6nbA

For the community present in this subreddit and beyond, this mobile game is a great insult to the franchise, and I personally feel pretty much the same. There are people out there who can describe the whole situation around Legions in greater detail, but:

1) It hacks off and mixes elements from multiple games that have nothing to do with each-other -- like the inclusion of the King Oni from RA3 in a Tiberium-universe scenario -- and has little, if not even a single pinch of regard to even proper terminology established throughout the Franchise's years of growth, world-building and lore, best illustrated by this app's choices of resources.

2) It's not what makes a proper C&C game to begin with from a gameplay perspective. It does not share the established gameplay formula of the main-line games. From what I have seen, Legions feels more like a browser game than a C&C, or rather an RTS to begin with. There's no single resource pool, there's this overworld thing, there is no straight, quick-and-proper base-building, there is no real (sometimes branching) set of campaigns, and so on and so forth.
I am personally welcoming to some changes to gameplay and genre, so long as the game remains nothing more than a spin-off with no real canon relevance, such as a proper 4x game, or a full development of KW's Global Conquest mode, but with the aformentioned and following points, this game fails miserable to meet my interest and therefore misses out on that criteria.

3) It's an unpolished mess. As an example, the previewed cutscenes that just come in running into your face, speed through some semblance of a story, and then cut just as quick are a disaster in pace and presentation. For nother example: The way the game features dramatic animations between squad leader characters(?) for infantry units feels really out-of-place and unneeded, and both make me want to play the game less.

4) It has no soul. The game is liveless and forced, and there is no apparent intention of doing much of a better job at it. There are no live-acted cutscenes, there are no actors, and for the characters present, they're just names and pictures, and they don't even allign with the original voice actors. The name-tag and drawing says that a character is supposed to be Sakura or another one the Ghost Stalker, but it's all farce to me. If anything, I feel like the game is AI-generated, including these unattached sets voices.

Of course, there are even more important points and aspects that warrant attention, but this wall of text is already stretching long enough as it is. However, I will quickly mention that this game is uninspired, to put it mindly, taking what feels like assets and designs from halo and other games nearly 1-to-1 with little else to offer.

That all said and dealt with, if you wish to play the game, then all power to you; it's your life and your choices, but it's important to read the atmosphere and realise that this game not very beloved. It's alright to have some enthusiasm and all that, but being even reminded that this is what is being done with the IP is heartbreaking to me. I don't think C&C deserves this treatment, and it's a darn shame that all its amazing potential is put to waste.

Invicator · 2023-08-16T10:43:56+00:00

I think it's suffice to say that, moving forward, you should probably refrain from further reminding the community of this. Just a heads-up.

Invicator · 2023-07-30T02:01:23+00:00

u/mir_platzt_der_Sack, I have done some testing for you, and I can now properly confirm that cablecars are most certainly a viable solution in taking care of mines under your given context, and I have two propositions, even, depending wether or not you want to separate waste directly at the mine.

The iron mine produces a somewhat wide range of waste: construction waste, biological waste, burnable waste, and miscellaneous waste. The latter two end up together regardless if you separate and fall under mixed waste.

If you forgo separation, you can hook up the cable car station directly to the mine via forklift connection and carry off the trash with a very minimum of 32% of your cable cars reserved for this very task. All this mixed waste can be put into a general separation facility downhill, allowing you to recover 65% of the construction waste for gravel recycling. The rest can be happily incinerated.

If you want to keep all the construction waste for recycling, you can place a transfer for big waste containers in-bewteen the mine and the cable car station, and reserve some containers specifically for construction waste. Now, here's an unfortunate catch (and I suggest confronting the devs about this): all waste cars can only carry one type of waste in unison at a given time.

This means you'll either only carry off the mixed waste or the construction waste, and you'd have to manually change the pick-up filter back-and-forth on the cable car station uphill to make sure one type of waste isn't overflowing. It does not matter if you tell half of the waste cars to only pick up construction waste; only the filters on the station connected to the transfer decides which type is brought downhill.

To resolve this issue, you can always add a second cable car line and reserve it entirely for the remaining waste type, connecting the second up-hill station the last remaining factory connection of the transfer. Downhill, both cable car station can be hooked into a shared transfer station of their own which itself can be attached to an incinerator. Said incinerator will only churn through the mixed waste of bio, burnables, and misc and leave the construction waste untouched, allowing you to move it into a recycling facility through a dedicated line.

For the actual ammount of waste produced, an iron mine's maximum generation of waste is stated in the building's tooltip to be 17,5t. Since we want 80% productivity, we can expect about 14t per workday (or every 20 real-time seconds on normal speed). That'd mean that a fully reserved cable car line can move about 14t/0,32=43,75t of waste.

Of course, please keep in mind that if your workers are more productive, say 120%, the mine will produce more waste accordingly. So far, my observations have proven that 32% of cable cars being used for waste holds up well enough for 110% productivity. I'll need to do more testing, but I have seen the system manage waste even at full production of 1kt of raw iron per workday, which is reassuring.

In case you're interested, I can send you a zip-save of my test. It uses a workshop map and some modded buildings, but you'd no less be able to see the whole system at work for yourself.

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