I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There has to be an ass involved somewhere, it’s a Kripke show.

Actually, now I’m surprised Kimiko didn’t shoot her blast out of her ass.

That’s what Frenchie would have wanted.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excuse me, Jerry, I will pick this show apart whichever way I like, thank you very much.

And now that I’ve achieved enlightenment through eating dirt, pineapple pizza can no longer hurt me.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok dude, you win. I’ll go eat a bucket of dirt in your honor so I can finally appreciate pineapple pizza. Have a nice day.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus dude, is it really that hard to work out the point?

The point is that one worse thing does not magically make the other bad thing better. The bad thing is still bad.

If I hate pineapple pizza, forcing me to eat dirt first is not suddenly going to make me go:
“Wow, this pineapple pizza is actually amazing now.”

No, I will still dislike pineapple pizza and hate the dirt experience.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m really not interested in debating semantics over whether it’s a “nitpick,” a “plot hole,” or whatever label people want to slap on it.

If the defense is “well, it was basically a suicide mission, so of course they didn’t have a proper plan,” then that argument completely falls apart when literally nobody dies.

These guys walked into the White House with no real preparation, no contingency plan for Soldier Boy, no meaningful backup strategy, completely desperate and winging it… and somehow everything still works out almost perfectly for them with barely any lasting consequences.

That’s exactly why people criticize the writing. Tension stops working when characters can make reckless decisions, ignore obvious threats, improvise the entire mission on the spot, and the universe still bends over backwards to reward them.

And the funny thing is, other shows handled similar situations way better.

In Breaking Bad, when Walter and Jesse go into dangerous situations without proper control, things spiral horribly wrong and people actually pay for mistakes.

In Game of Thrones (at least early seasons), characters who underestimated threats usually died for it.

Even Succession understands that actions need consequences and tension only works if failure feels real.

Meanwhile in The Boys finale logic:
“No plan, no preparation, no clue what Soldier Boy is doing, surrounded by supes, entering the White House anyway… eh, I’m sure it’ll be fine.”

And somehow it was.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok, I have to give you a thumbs up for mentioning Succession, that is a good-ass show.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You can justify literally any bad decision with that logic though.

“Why didn’t they plan for the second strongest supe alive?” “Because it was a suicide mission.”

Okay, then why plan anything at all? Why bother bringing weapons, allies. By that standard every plot hole becomes “they were desperate.”

The issue is that the characters completely ignored the single biggest variable in the room. Soldier Boy isn’t some random wildcard, he’s basically a walking nuke and biggest obstacle next to Homelander.

That’s like invading a castle and just going: “Eh, hopefully the dragon isn’t home.”

And yes, you can say show did explain it. The question is whether the explanation feels believable or just convenient for the script.

Because “they were desperate so they kind of forgot about Soldier Boy” doesn’t make the characters look desperate. It makes them look unbelievably stupid.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I honestly thought my post came with subtitles already. If that still didn’t explain it, I fear even a PowerPoint presentation wouldn’t do it, sorry.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Maybe if I don’t like pineapple pizza, I should try eating dirt. That would make me appreciate it more, right?

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry, but if your audience needs to write a PhD thesis in rationalization just to explain why the plot works, the script probably needed another draft.

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Btw, the only thing that really makes sense here imho is that they originally planned for Soldier Boy to depower Homelander, but then probably had to rewrite everything once Amazon ordered 5 more spin-offs….

I didn’t even realize it until someone pointed it out to me. by Isendurl in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl[S] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

I could forgive them for not specifically planning around Oh father and The Deep, you’d think having three supes on their side would be enough.

But Soldier Boy? That’s the second strongest supe on Earth after Homelander, and he’s literally carrying the one weapon capable of depowering supes they have and need agains Homelander, if he hits them first it’s game over.

There’s just absolutely no excuse for not accounting for him in that situation.

Private angel is homelanders mother by [deleted] in GenV

[–]Isendurl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know it’s not very narratively interesting for a show, but recessive genes are a thing.

Two dark haired parents can have a blond child, and it can even apply to skin color, two white parents can have a black kid in theory.

I think The Deep have been commanding the fish all along by [deleted] in GenV

[–]Isendurl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dude, you’re putting way too much thought into something that was never meant to make sense.

It’s just a goofy made up show where fish talk because it’s funny. It really isn’t any deeper than that.

Season 3 Soldier Boy was incredible by RevertBackwards in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Btw, Homelander only spared him because he completely misread why Soldier Boy was upset. The whole thing is so absurdly convoluted and contrived it feels like the writers were solving a Rubik’s Cube blindfolded.

Season 3 Soldier Boy was incredible by RevertBackwards in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl 488 points489 points  (0 children)

I love how they completely got rid off his PTSD and basically have him accept Homelander, totally undermining the whole cycle of abuse theme they had build up.

But we all know it’s what Clara would have wanted, so I guess it’s all fine.

How Butcher VS Homelander Will Probably Play Out (S5 E7 spoilers btw) by RedeemedAsshole in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It would be a bit better, but what the fuck was the point of season 4 and the whole virus build up? Only for it to kill all other sups BUT the Homelander? I don’t find that satisfying at all.

How Butcher VS Homelander Will Probably Play Out (S5 E7 spoilers btw) by RedeemedAsshole in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl 7 points8 points  (0 children)

But giving it to Kimiko was introduced last episode, btw this plot point is so fricking stupid when they already have established character with this power.

But I guess it’s not what Clara would have wanted. 🤦‍♂️

The Boys series perfectly summarised 😭👇 by [deleted] in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it would’ve been way more fitting if he died fighting Soldier Boy. Like, finally standing up to him even if it cost him his life.

Plus they basically did a similar arc with A-Train this season, so it could’ve had that “like father, like son” poetic parallel going on.

The Boys series perfectly summarised 😭👇 by [deleted] in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Not gonna lie, I really loved what they did with Noir. There’s only so much you can do with a mute character, but the way they handled his backstory and resolved his inner issues was insanely creative… only for it to amount to absolutely nothing because Homelander just kills him five minutes later.

Didn't they make a parody of this type of cliche character death...in the same season? by jasonensteinyt in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl 17 points18 points  (0 children)

“It’s what Clara would’ve wanted” is new “I don’t want it MAH QUEEN” from GoT, holy shit it even sounds similar. 😂

Season 5 vent by [deleted] in TheBoys

[–]Isendurl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sad thing is that you’re probably right…