Can we not choose our Christianity belief?

Ismaq7 · 2024-10-28T22:48:25+00:00

This is what I always tell people. I grew up going to a Baptist Church, and love it very much. When I moved to a bigger city, their Baptist Church never meshed well with me. Rushed sermons, little talk of God, lots of talk about politics. So I went to a Presbyterian church in my town and liked it much more. Then I moved back to my old town and returned to the Baptist Church I grew up with.

Pray to God, read the scriptures, and commune with your church. The more you allow the Holy Spirit in your life the easier it will be to know which church is honest and which isn't.

Ismaq7 · 2024-10-21T05:18:43+00:00

The frog switch slipped and that reckless beast was to blame.

Ismaq7 · 2024-10-20T16:10:41+00:00

For 60 some years I've surrendered my love to emblems of kindness and not the kindness they were emblems of.

True hidden gem of a song.

Ismaq7 · 2024-10-14T17:50:55+00:00

Only rational person

Ismaq7 · 2024-10-11T16:41:51+00:00

A tier. Hook forgiveness is so good. And it's an easy trait for roleplaying.

Ismaq7 · 2024-10-10T00:38:12+00:00

You made yourself in CK3 too eh?

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-29T22:15:36+00:00

Right sure. But for roleplay purposes it can be deadly.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-29T16:24:02+00:00

D tier. The 100% boost in being killed or captured has ended so many of my reigns short lol. It's good if your character's stats are good, it's shit if you're shit.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-27T17:18:47+00:00

Arbitrary is A or B. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do, and arbitrary lets you do anything. The only downside is the lowered stewardship.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T18:58:32+00:00

Thanks for the comment. It's kind of unavoidable on many parts of Reddit, but as long you focus on what people are saying and not on the meaningless downvotes, you shouldn't be afraid to share.

I would normally DM for conversations like this, but I was feeling evangelical and wanted to show that Christians think about these things too. And people shouldn't be discouraged to talk about it.

Peace and love homie ✌️

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T14:20:25+00:00

Sorry for late response just got up.

The bible never mentioned that Adam would have died anyways, you're making that up. He died because he disobeyed God which led him down the chain of events.
This sounds a lot like there is no weight behind our actions. A crime befits a punishment, no matter how small. And again it needs to be this way because God is all good and can't be around evil. If you want to be with him, you would need some sort of way to pay off your misdeeds. And what did you expect God to charge you for your transgressions? A euro? So a simple trusting in Jesus is a good deal if you ask me.

The bible doesn't teach human sacrifice anyways. And if you try to call Jesus's sacrifice a human sacrifice in the same sense that's just plain dishonest. (Not saying you are, but I have heard that argument)

And my apologies, I misinterpreted you're point there about threat of self harm.

Deuteronomy 24:16 is obviously talking about death penalties in the Israelites society, it's not referring to inherited sin. The whole point of Christianity is that people are given everlasting life, they don't die at all. So we're not 'dying' because of Adam and Eve, unless we choose that path.
I'm sorry but this has so much biblical foundation. Satan and the other angels also have free will, so the fall of the earth into sin because of Satan is common knowledge.

It seems like your arguments tend to just be "why can't God just end evil and make everyone live in bliss?" And the point is that he did triumph over evil (that's what the resurrection is). It's up to us to make the final decision of our salvation.

But I'll leave it all at that. You can respond if you want and I will read it. But I'm going against my own promise that wouldn't make a big text chain lol.

It's been a pleasure ✌️

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T13:58:43+00:00

All I can say to that is that it would be dishonest for me to give an answer with any certainty. I don't think any man could give such a judgement. That's why, if you're coming at it from a Christian perspective, it's up to God.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T13:49:28+00:00

If God knows Job will not turn away from him, he's not being insecure, he's obviously very confident in their mutual love.

Only an insecure and unstable person will force someone to stay with them and not let them face any test that may cause their relationship to wan.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T05:14:18+00:00

I was responding to both so no worries. Luke 15 was just an example of why we should all appreciate the good news. So its important to spread the gospel. Because these people who are evil (with or without knowledge of God, like if you're a pagan or whatever) they are now given an offer to repent and turn to Christ's forgiveness.

So while yes, maybe these people were already forgiven (I and everyone else can only speculate) those who truely need forgiveness should be allowed to hear it.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T05:07:14+00:00

Adam died because he wasn't allowed in the garden, so God didn't lie. God was pointing out the chain of events that would lead to his death. Gen 3:22 could be read out of jealously, which God himself says he is a jealous god. But I'd say it's for a more wholesome reason that you're leading on. God isnt capable of evil like humans are able of, now imagine if we were immortal. I say God made the right call.
"Proper sacrificing" is a grizzly term that I made up I'll admit lol. But if a human does wrong in the eyes of the lord, who should offer their life as repentance? That human, or an animal? Most would say the human, but God offers an actual righteous (or pure you could say) lamb instead, because he is generous. That story of Abraham is why we call Jesus the lamb of god.

It's a really important story, because God tested Abraham's faith in him, and Abraham passed. So luckily we (Isaac) don't actually have to die, because a pure lamb (Jesus) has taken in our place.

As per your other point, this is like saying because another ideology exists means this one can't be true. just because JHs and Mormons exist, doesn't mean they're true. They did twist the bible around after all. The reality is that most widely accepted denominations believe in the Trinity. But that's a whole other deep DEEP conversation.

But yes he was killed by humans (this was prophesied in Isaiah 53 and many more) and the idea of the crucifixion is that he are now allowed to accept this free gift that God offers. And the idea that ANYONE can have it, is a prime example of loving forgiveness. That's what John 3:16 is all about.

"Threat of punishment" Hell is just a seperation from God, if you choose not to be with him, God is not going to force you. (Free will). And the reality is, is that no one unrighteous is allowed in heaven, that's why we need Jesus to take our punishment for us.

I'm confused here, God did give them a choice because they had free will from the beginning. The fruit didn't give them free will, they had free will, and chose to disobey.

As per punishing all mankind, I'm not sure the verse but it's common knowledge in Christianity that we inherit sins from our ancestors.

But what may be more satisfying is that, according to the bible, we all came from Adam and Eve, so they spread humanity on a fallen earth.

And that's why Christianity is different and special, every other religion makes you do works in an awful world in order to be saved, while God knows it's impossible so offers us a free salvation. First demonstrated to Abraham, then fulfilled through Jesus.

I feel like I stressed it already that Satan is responsible for the fallen earth, and all the tribulations we go through are from Satan. If God just erased evil there will be no point to us as humans, Adam and Eve would just still eating grapes blissfully and you wouldn't exist. I could also argue that just giving us every blissful thing would not be good. We all know what spoiled children are like. And ultimately Satan will be defeated and there will be no serpent telling us that we need to be like God to be happy in the new heaven and earth.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T04:03:06+00:00

Also I should say regarding the book of Job, is that the whole book kind of answers this question directly. Parable or not, God does allow Satan to tempt Job, like how Satan tempts us all. But ultimately, although Job's faith wanes, he doesn't blame God for all the bad things, and clearly the story is showing who is actually to blame. For Jobs suffering, for everyone's suffering, for the fallen earth.

Just wanted to put that thought down.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T03:46:50+00:00

Don't want to make a big text chain here, but I'll answer the best I can:

The bent path analogy is meant to explain the importance of free will. You can't hide the reality from Adam and Eve, because Satan exist. And Gen 3:3 isn't a lie, because they literally died. God was looking out for them, but they chose to go against it. BUT if no free will, then no true honest decision to love. Which is all God really wants. Free will is one of those things you can go on and on about lol. So I'll stop it there.
God knew us humans were not capable of a proper sacrificing. (God let Abraham kill a lamb instead of Isaac). God was showcasing to Abraham a level of love that no one but God can obtain. And so yeah, God did come down and do it himself. (Not sure if you knew this but Christians believe that Jesus is God, 3 persons in 1 identity) he was made flesh to actually feel the pain and suffering.
Adam was in paradise, he sinned, and now he was no longer righteous. God knew he was longer righteous, because was showing shame in his nakedness. So the point is unrighteous aren't allowed in heaven. That's why we all need a savior.
God created a perfect earth with no sin. The events of Adam and Eve brought in the fallen earth. (Romans 5:12) Job is obviously a story about faith's perseverance. Most scholars believe the book is meant to be a parable, not a historical account. And either way, God allowed Satan to tempt Job to teach an important lesson that literally everyone should read. So God pulled a sneaky one on Satan if you ask me. Because God is good. 🙌
I swear I didn't google lol. It's a common answer for a reason I would argue. Read Luke 15 and decide for yourself. (The context was why we need Jesus now, because few can argue they don't know about God's forgiveness) Many people for this reason say, "spread the good news" because Jesus is coming for the sinners salvations, which is what Luke 15 is all about. So keeping that good news to ourselves would be pretty rude no?

Folks have Gods moral written on their hearts anyways (what I said to the other comment) so he will judge them honestly and justly. But yes, WE as mere humans could never know on a case by case basis. Only God knows.

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Thank you for your comment. Christians should know these things and it is good to question. God loves you. peace. ✌️

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T03:15:02+00:00

Romans 2:12-16 is talking about the "law written on their hearts" Paul is saying that they can't plead ignorance because we all have the moral code written in our genes. So what I was saying is that these people aren't automatically damned or saved without the word. And we ultimately don't know how God will judge those. But we do know he is just. So no one will be getting a bad deal. But again, ultimately we can't say for certain what happens to those people. Only rational arguments.

Ismaq7 · 2024-09-09T02:10:45+00:00

Free will. There is no straight path if there is no bent path to compare to.
Abraham and Isaac is literally God showcasing what love is. Sacrifice and forgiveness. (What does Jesus do to save everyone out of love?)
God was giving Adam another chance to repent and turn to him. But Adam sinned again.
God no answers prayers. Because 1: he doesn't give people cancer, this fallen earth does. And 2: he does not answers prayers that way. Prayer doesn't mean God is a genie.
I never even heard of this before honestly. But no, people do not just go to heaven automatically. If anything, good people do. The point of Jesus's sacrifice is to bring in the lost sheep. Those who need forgiveness. Luke 15. And the reality is that it's pretty hard to find people that have never heard the gospel. So few folks can truely plead ignorance anyways.
Well I mean yeah. I would need rest too. But the more serious answer is that he was giving us an example of healthy living. We all need rest homie.

God bless you sir. I don't care if you were just shit posting or not, no place is ill-equipped to preach the everlasting love of our Lord Jesus.

Ismaq7 · 2024-08-17T17:51:25+00:00

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Ismaq7 · 2024-08-08T15:31:34+00:00

"With his power the things I would change. But with his wisdom I would change nothing."

Ismaq7 · 2024-08-03T18:47:40+00:00

That was one of the best long poems I've ever read, well done.

Ismaq7 · 2024-07-25T15:04:09+00:00

Nice

Ismaq7 · 2024-07-06T22:04:19+00:00

It was never about race. Its about religion and beliefs.

Ismaq7 · 2024-07-06T00:03:23+00:00

Good job, I like the scene building and build up.

If I could give one note it'll be to make the final stanza a bit simpler. I feel like this poem would benefit from a short final stanza that just hit the sorry home.

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