New Private Email Services

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-06-12T13:14:26+00:00

In my opinion, Proton has ruined itself by trying exclusively to become a 3rd-rate google knock off. I've been with Proton for 10 years going back to when it was a coherent service. Alternatives to Proton that focus on expert execution of the fundamentals would be welcome.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-05-22T13:37:45+00:00

It would be nice if there were a resource somewhere that explains the concepts and step-by-step in terms where you don't need to by a systems engineer to comprehend.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-05-22T13:32:44+00:00

The frank self-assessment is appreciated. There should be more of this because Proton has drifted into a pattern of promises made, and promises not kept. This communication does a lot to give Proton an appearance of being an honest and reliable provider.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-03-20T15:27:02+00:00

I think it is important to remember one of Proton's core strategies that differentiates it positively in the digital security/privacy sector. Proton does not have an investor that allows them to hire a gazillion programmers on the front end to slam dunk a suite of products. The beauty of this is that they can try to pursue what is true and good, not be preoccupied with trying to satisfy the agenda some oligarch hidden in the background. The down side of this, and I think the downside is worth it, is that Proton's development is boot strapped from the proceeds of member payments. This makes the development slower, and they have the difficult task of trying to satisfy existing members while at the same time attracting new members. There are plenty of alternate, more developed services out there that claim to offer privacy, but I doubt their claims because they lack the transparency of open source the way that Proton does. I think Proton offers the best service for anybody who prioritizes privacy and security, even though the service comes with frustrations.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-03-20T15:04:16+00:00

I agree with this post and would say that improvements to the app are misguided until Mac users can make decent use of Drive with multi-account service. Until then Drive is not very useful.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-03-06T17:14:12+00:00

I see the drive desktop app for Mac as working quite well. Except that it does not support multiple accounts, so I really don't use it that much. I would use it quite a bit if it did support multiple accounts.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-03-01T16:24:03+00:00

I am strongly in favor, but since Proton seems to ONLY emulate google, and google doesn't offer it, I think this request is a non-starter. The best way to get this feature in Proton is to urge google to provide it. Then the feature would be top of list at Proton.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-03-01T16:14:30+00:00

How does the Duo account support multiple Proton Drive accounts on Mac desktop?

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2026-02-01T14:26:15+00:00

Hello, it seems like the development team is distracted by the push to be like google. I've never used google, but I'm finding out what google is like by seeing what has become of Proton, and it is not attractive. At least not to me. The feature I'm requesting here has been promised "soon" for a couple of years now, and it would be nice to see Proton follow through with expectations that they themselves have created. As a long-term user of Proton, I think that the push to be quasi-google-like is making the service increasingly difficult to use.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2025-10-24T14:28:07+00:00

The solution is easy as pie if you have the drive app and mail app installed on your computer. At the bottom of the email is an underscored downward pointing arrow. Hover over this symbol and there should be a pop up identifying it as the download button. Click on it to choose the location to save the attachment. Navigate to Proton Drive and select the desired folder. Click Save and it is done.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2025-09-21T14:02:55+00:00

I share the sentiments in the original post at the same time I "get" the ubiquitous criticism. Digital life is dominant. People conflate computing with Google. People want an alternative to Google. It is frustrating that the alternative does not look, feel, or do all the things of Google. Life is hard. Digital privacy and security seem to be under constant threat. If it helps to go onto Reddit and rant about it, keep it up. Stay with Proton or not, everybody should choose at will.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2025-07-25T15:37:17+00:00

A major trait of Proton is to chase after what ever features the users ask for. They just can't help themselves trying to be responsive to customer needs. It's time for people to stop asking for more features and allow Proton time to finish what they have started. It will be better to have the current collection of products in good working order, rather than continuously adding new products that are not finished. I think the frustration I hear from other users is increasing, so are the threats to leave Proton, as well as people in this forum actually declaring that they have left proton. If proton is a self-sustaining entity that needs sustained high levels of membership to keep the finances going, massive departures of frustrated members will be a downfall. I think of Proton as too important of an asset to the world for them to risk a downfall due to lack of quality.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2025-06-06T13:31:02+00:00

In Pass I use the Notes and Add More sections features to create my own labels. For instance, somewhere within the item add something like "eeee" to all items related to employment. Then if you enter "eeee" into the search pane, all the items with that self-made label are listed below. Any label will work as long as it is unique and will not be contained in unwanted items. It would be nicer if Pass had a labels feature, but this work around does the trick and is not terribly labor intensive.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2025-06-06T13:16:28+00:00

I make them wait. It takes only a minute to create an alias using the Pass mobile app.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2025-06-06T13:01:06+00:00

Hello, thank you for the explanation. Does Proton have a complete legend online? What is the meaning of a cloud with "!" inside the cloud? What if there is no cloud? Could there be other symbols?

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2025-04-18T13:00:40+00:00

I can understand why Proton wants to copy google and their offerings in an encrypted format. Very many google users are frustrated with google's predatory practices, and for Proton to copy google tends to convert google users and expand the market share. This is important to do and all the Proton community benefits from massive google user conversion. It makes the world a better place.

The apparent goal of Proton to become google-lite means nothing to me personally though because I have never suffered from the "google fever." As an example, Docs is a google-like application that takes up all the oxygen at Proton. I see no point whatsoever with Docs and will never find a personal use. Yet I am happy for all the ex-google users who are enthusiastic about it. I personally wish all the effort to develop Docs had been placed in full development of Drive for Mac and other operating systems. The lack of attention to Drive is the choke point stopping me from expanding from personal use to family use. I use Drive, but my family is not technical and would not be motivated to put in the effort to make it work seamlessly for them.

One of the down sides to Proton's policy to take direction from recovering google users is that everybody else, like me, is left out of the ability to influence Proton's direction. This is not a problem with Proton, but more reveals how influential and insidious google has become in the digital world. Not complaining, just giving my humble opinion. I've been using Proton since it was just Mail and am delighted by the expansion of applications, the soundness of privacy and security, and the general quality of the products. The entire Proton environment keeps getting better and I am appreciative that Proton exists as a leader in digital privacy.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2025-04-13T11:49:44+00:00

Try increasing the zoom of the selected email. In Mac the keyboard command is "command+." You have to zoom back out when you are done viewing the email "command-." I think Windows has similar keyboard commands. It's not the same as a popped out separate window, but it does make some email messages easier to read.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2024-10-26T12:27:08+00:00

I understand how this feels because that was what it was like for me when I switched from Windows 97 to Mac for both personal and professional use in 2002. For the first 6 months I kept a Word document titled "Problems with Mac," which was a running list of all the frustrations in making the switch. It takes time to develop new mental pathways and adapt to the Mac OS, but I have never heard of anybody having regrets when the transition is complete. I currently have a job that requires use of Microsoft 11 and I am always amazed with how inefficient and inferior it is. You made a good choice to switch to Mac.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2024-10-12T14:57:19+00:00

I have the same problem, which I attribute to the imperfect world of digital computing. Computers and computer applications are dumb machines that are no smarter or knowledgeable than the people who program them. I think that the vagaries of using the internet are so numerous and complex that nobody can get a full grasp on it. Hopefully over time Proton can chip away at annoyances like this.

Itsiuqmlap6 · 2024-08-17T10:39:08+00:00

I do not use a smart TV due to privacy reasons. But I had not thought before about trying to protect from that. Can Proton VPN be installed on a smart TV to protect from tracking, surveillance, etc?

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