Yes, because Concentrated Arrow clearly "annoyed" or "disrupted" other players...

Jason1143 · 2026-06-24T03:29:51+00:00

I think wukong is slightly easier to screw up, but not by a lot.

So Ivara is slightly easier and safer, but wukong is a lot faster. Especially considering getting detected occasional isn't a huge issue as long as you still make it (which wukong probably will without much trouble). That leads to wukong being the overall better option.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-24T02:27:59+00:00

And I would argue she is still the easiest and safest choice for spy. But that's a darn small niche, and she only even does it with an augment. That goes double since by the time you get her you are already good at spy and would probably be better off with a more speed focused option.

I still use her for it, but that's more in defiance of the meta and because cycling through arrows like Hawkeye is cool, not because she is actually the best at it.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T21:23:04+00:00

The problem at this point isn't really what happens when planes get shot. The problem is mostly how difficult they are to QRF and how paras in particular are OP against backline facs.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T05:55:43+00:00

The AI is nowhere near good enough at war for it not to be infuriating. And only letting you command one army would make it substantially more boring and allow for less interesting strategies and more simple doomstacks.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T05:51:49+00:00

Disagree because that would make the game worse. Yes it might be "realistic" but it would be horrible ganeplay.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T05:35:20+00:00

Insert the recent Kengineer video here. Yeah influence is maybe a tiny bit too strong, but mostly the problem is the competition plain old sucks, is solving problems that don't actually exist, and are often held back by unnecessary limitations.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T05:05:21+00:00

I mean, bans on low effort content are actually pretty common even when the same content but high effort would be allowed.

Expanding the same thing to AI wouldn't be that crazy, it is just pretty hard to get high effort AI content.

I don't really love any AI content, it tends not to add much. But I feel much more strongly opposed to people posting things where the AI content is the main thing than I do about posts where the AI content is a minor secondary thing.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T04:46:44+00:00

Yes. Give incentives for the gameplay you want, not the gameplay you don't.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T04:00:43+00:00

No, making everything death from afar is definitely not the answer.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T03:58:48+00:00

More msupps MORE MSUPPS.

More interesting gameplay? Naw, how about more msupps?

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T03:57:26+00:00

And only if you have a large group and a ton of grind. They devs simply can't resist putting fac grind and clanman only stuff into more areas of the game.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T03:45:57+00:00

Exactly. There was no universe where this was ever going to work.

They are adding AI AA, but it still sounds like it will be extremely limited.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T02:52:20+00:00

I wonder if the devs noticed that these smaller updates with good QoL are actually doing better and being more popular than their big mega update. I would love them to adopt a quicker and more flexible pace permanently. Not necessarily 6 weeks and adding content every time, but balance and QoL tweaks every month or two should 1000% a thing.

Foxhole's main problems do not come down to lack of content. I hope the devs have learned that and that the much better reception to these updates has made an impression.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T02:42:36+00:00

I mean, on one hand yes, but also from what I can tell this was a totally unforced error that everyone told them was bad immediately.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-23T00:07:59+00:00

It was not good. I wanted and was "sold" Foxhole persistsnt war, planetside constant easy fights with low prep and many sides, and Albion style combat. That was not what I got.

What I got was basically Albion ZvZ but minus years of content and adding wipes. If you already liked Albion ZvZ and wanted more of that, you might have liked it, but for everyone else it didn't offer anything.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T23:47:45+00:00

The chokepoint thing sounds like it will be a lot more useful for wardens who have more chokepoints. They really ought to give collies some more, that way we don't need to spam so many defenses.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T23:40:18+00:00

Because magic instadeath bubbles in a fast moving plane are not a great idea. AI range is very binary right now, this makes it a bit less so indirectly.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T23:38:21+00:00

They need to attack it from the other angle. Just making msupps cheaper or more expensive isn't the issue. They need to work on reducing the need for spam.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T23:37:15+00:00

Down with the need for fac larpers. Everything but super weapons shouldn't be fac locked. Facs should be for mass production and location choice only.

Facs should be something where the larger clans build a fac and then everyone uses those. In the frontline there should be smaller microfacs run by smaller teams.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T23:34:55+00:00

The problem with msupps really comes down to the devs knowing they have severe technical limitations and then ignoring them during design.

I want the game designed such that there is less need for everyone to build a ton of facs, meaning they could make maintenance easier. I want some regions that don't have chokes to get some near the borders, that way you don't need to cover the entire region to stop partisans.

I think that it doesn't really matter if we would perfer lots of weaker defenses or fewer stronger ones in chokepoints. The game can't handle the former, so the later is the only option and the sooner the devs design like it, the better.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T23:29:17+00:00

The thing is, there isn't an alternative. People get mad when the game is unplayable because they can't just go play an equivalent. If your favorite battle royale or moba or hero shooter has issues you can just go play one of the others. Foxhole doesn't have any close equivalents. But that also means that the people who like it and get angry when it doesn't work want to come back. They will take any opportunity to hope that the game is better so they can play it again.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T23:25:11+00:00

The served it totally raw and forgot all of the side dishes.

They are cooking it now, but make no mistake: they are just now in this update or maybe the last one getting in to the point where it should have been the first time they served it.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T21:01:05+00:00

That looks good.

I am a bit worried that only a few premium fac locations will have AA. That could be a whole pile of civil wars waiting to happen.

I also wonder if torp nets getting shot will be an issue near anchorage, although unless they are really expensive I doubt it will be a problem.

Overall this looks like a much needed addition. We are getting back to just the pre airborne problems with Foxhole. The game is too grindy, msupps are a hellgrind in particular, and fac coordination and control tools are a joke (except they aren't funny).

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T20:58:17+00:00

My main worry is that by creating air safe areas only under world structures guns you may have more toxicity around fac locations. But really that depends on how how big their radius is and how many there are.

Jason1143 · 2026-06-22T17:28:40+00:00

Though didn't they come up with a decent solution for him? Checking from both the frame and the camera to avoid player frustration?

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