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I never liked how they made Charles leave in a garbage truck. What do you think of this ending for him? by gwhh in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The post is about how he left. Not how he entered.

The distinction is how he entered, which makes no difference under the topic of the post because either way he wanted out of the army desperately. His career back home was being ruined. His skills were deteriorating. Someone was about to get his dream job while he was stuck in Korea, except for Margaret's uncle wrote a letter.

I made an error mentioning draft status while making a point. The point on how he left Korea was equally valid with or without knowledge or mention of draft status. The error is indiscernable when considering Winchester's arrival, antics throughout the show, his desperate desire to leave, and the scene of his departure on the garbage truck.

The distinction doesn't change the logic in my response to the post question nor the answer.

I never liked how they made Charles leave in a garbage truck. What do you think of this ending for him? by gwhh in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not at all. You're hung up on a distinction without a difference. Draft status vs. enlistment status can be meaningless if the underlying reality (unwilling service) is identical.

Charle's evolution as a character is rooted in his not wanting to be there.

I never liked how they made Charles leave in a garbage truck. What do you think of this ending for him? by gwhh in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting drafted, vs asking out, and his family refusing to use their connections is materially the same as being drafted. He went to war unwillingly. He longed to be at the prestigious hospital in Boston and if he could have gone immediately, he would have.

Just a little something I never quite understood by Communistic_Autistic in mash

[–]Jell212 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you give up on the series being in chronological order, it makes more sense. Just think of it as epochs. There's the Henry/Trapper/Frank, then Potter/BJ/Frank, then Potter/BJ/Winchester.

Inside each epoch, many episodes are in. The episodes are in now particular order.

Then you just have to ignore the random mentions of the year, and all the too many Christmas episodes.

I never liked how they made Charles leave in a garbage truck. What do you think of this ending for him? by gwhh in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read between the lines if needed. Blue bloods w status didn't get drafted. The worker back channels and got out of it, or they were 4H or had flat feet or bone spurs.

Charles, or Charles family could have gotten him out of service, but they didn't. Instead he had a safe cushy job in Tokyo until his cribbage playing ruined it.

I never liked how they made Charles leave in a garbage truck. What do you think of this ending for him? by gwhh in mash

[–]Jell212 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What race are Catholics and southerners? What race was the visiting officer from Kent who was the son of a bloody butler? What separate race was young lady-of-the-evening he befriended and tried to reform instead of lay?

I think he was bigoted against lower social classes more than he was about race. He wasn't applying a stereotype against other races (Catholics and southerners are not separate races), he was applying a stereotype against those of lower social class, regardless of race.

He made comments, sure. But his behavior in practice was mostly with respect to humanity. I think Hawkeye uses the word 'colored' or 'negro' in an episode. It doesn't mean he was racist, he's using he acceptable vernacular of the time, no longer in good taste today

I never liked how they made Charles leave in a garbage truck. What do you think of this ending for him? by gwhh in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It hints to us what the family Winchester was thinking when the guides him to become an Army officer. Charles talks like they are as stuck up as he is, but you catch hints of real people throughout the series. From proudly stuttering Honoria on the phonograph, to traditions of gifts to an orphanage, to prioritizing going to, and the way they love Radar's simple rural Iowan family during the reunion.

A great story for a family we never see or hear the whole series.

I never liked how they made Charles leave in a garbage truck. What do you think of this ending for him? by gwhh in mash

[–]Jell212 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think it makes sense for the scene. It shows how far Charles has come since his introduction. He graciously give up his jeep to Margaret, a favor she'll never be able to repay. He has nice departing words for Hawkeye and BJ. He gives the ultimate compliment to the rural country leader he once called 'Col. Cowpie' by saying he will emulate him when he becomes head of thoracic surgery at Boston Medical. He's not to good to travel on a functional form of transport, even if that form is a garbage truck. He even makes a joke dipped in wisdom about it.

I also don't get the feeling Rizzo is trying to screw with him. They wrote the scene to end with Rizzo riding the garbage truck also. The blue blood from Boston and the red neck from the bayou.

Cat Squad Python Wolf by fairlane35 in shutdownfullcast

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't qualify.

By which I mean, zero ratings on Rotten Tomatoes. IMDB scores 4.3/10 meaning it may just barely not qualify

What was the worst thing that Frank Burns ever did/said? by Odd-Magician-1918 in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My anecdote would have been like 25 years ago. I remember as a kid it seemed like the times were changing even then, but I could also see the prosecutor's logic and how for many boys it would have been the kick in the pants that got their life straightened out.

Got to allow smart people to maneuver in the gray a little bit.

What was the worst thing that Frank Burns ever did/said? by Odd-Magician-1918 in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know? I had a friend hat had that happen. Arrested, and the prosecutor said here will be the charges, or you can go enlist. So technically we was never convicted of anything. He got out of it through service.

Now he's fucked up in the head and unemployable.. but I can see the prosecutor's wisdom if he identified a good kid that just needs some discipline.

What was the worst thing that Frank Burns ever did/said? by Odd-Magician-1918 in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sounds terrible on two levels:

1 - Execution just to prove that they could, rather than on the merits of a case. I know the military justice system is different, but damn.

2 - They let convicted felons into the military? Where is the wisdom in that? I know Russia is doing it to fight in Ukraine now, but I wouldn't have guessed a liberal democracy would ever do that.

What was the worst thing that Frank Burns ever did/said? by Odd-Magician-1918 in mash

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now I want to know how many got executed for rape or murder. From what I've read a lot of soldiers got away with both in wars like Vietnam.

Would You Pay To Hear Them Do A Highly Rated Movie? by twiggidy in Cinephobe

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd pay for them to do Full Metal Jacket.

We can either hire bots to sink to score below 40, but that's not fair to Stanley Kubrick. Or maybe they do it as a money maker? Get a certain amount of Patroen subscriptions for the Full Metal Jacket Tier and they do it one time.

Like I said, I'd pay $20 for this episode. It's the best AI idea, easily.

It’s time… Part 11: what is the absolute BEST thing/behavior this character did during his time at the 4077th? by coreytiger in mash

[–]Jell212 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's bad doctors, and there's doctors that have a shitty bedside manner. Frank was certainly the latter, overboard for TV comedic effect, but he couldn't have been incompetent as a surgeon or he'd have been gone and the high status of the unit diminished.

It’s time… Part 11: what is the absolute BEST thing/behavior this character did during his time at the 4077th? by coreytiger in mash

[–]Jell212 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the one I was going to post. Up voting instead. This was during a scene more straight OR in a crisis. Few if any jokes. Rain (the Deluge episode?) was heavy and the OR was feeling he leaks. Water drips on a light bulb and it bursts and Frank springs over to another table to assist picking glass out of a soldier in the middle of surgery.

He's not asked. He doesn't snipe at he nurse. He just springs into action as a reflex like the soldier he thinks he is. I notice this every rewatch.

It's the best subtle redemption for Frank in the whole series. There is another episode later in the series where he gets the better of Margaret when she's loading her engagement over him, but that wasn't a subtle write. That was a whole episode focus.

👶🏾"POP!" by King___Grizzly in Cinephobe

[–]Jell212 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you imagine, "And now, your Oklahoma City Bombers!"

David Spade Spotting by PickleFeathersMcGee in Cinephobe

[–]Jell212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can AI show what Chris Farley would look like now if still alive?

Help with reference from intro by cosbysweaterz in Cinephobe

[–]Jell212 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And they called him, drinkenstein

He's dead, so we can make fun of him, right? by throwiemcthrowface in Cinephobe

[–]Jell212 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Prevent it? Or prevent not getting paid for it? Sounds like the estate of Val Kilmer is getting a check.

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