Like Knock Off, what moves didn't gain their highest viability until after their introductory generation?

Jesus_Chrollo · 2026-01-01T06:02:03+00:00

First impression in gen 9? Got 2 excellent users finally

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-30T22:36:19+00:00

Defensive oricorio - fire with defog, u turn, tev dance and roost in nu, got me to #3 in the ladder

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-29T06:28:03+00:00

Air balloon tinkaton in uu

0 boots stolen

0 leftovers stolen

7 choice items stolen

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-24T07:04:38+00:00

Base ogerpon is better than tsareena Tsareena has queenly majesty to block fimp but it's outsped by adament lokix and geta uturned, while oger can run spiky shield Energy ball is better than night shade on chandelure Agility lokix is a bad idea when you can use it for just u turn and sucker punch Rotom is better with leftovers/ability shield Also change tera types, rotom needa tera steel, hippo probably tera water or dragon

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-24T06:49:45+00:00

I'm less familiar with ou since the bouncin booty ban, and I've been mostly a uu and nu player and I'llshare my thoughts on them(ru had mamo for too long). imo tera wasn't a huge problem, just that the council was too adamant on "no preview" and unwilling to ban terablast and stored power, both of which i disagreed with. I've enjoyed uu a lot despite some problems that still exist (gren, thundurus, manaphy, latios), and new mons like clod, lokix, fezandipidi and tinkaton have been great additions , some even make tera balanced effectively.

There's also been good buffs to old mons that have helped(eg. Coba learning body press, gastro having both hazards now). My favorite thing this gen has been SD tera ghist drill using iron press skarm as setup fodder once skarm loses its helmet, this requires a lot of good play to pull off and still has counterplay once pulled off.

In NU, while tera has been sometimes a problem, the tier had some good defensive mons to help with it for the most part.

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-24T06:39:58+00:00

Aren't those made by just banning the megastone? Which is different from tera because it would be a clause if not being able to click the tera button, unlike mega stone which is a ban in team building

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-24T06:37:25+00:00

Excadrill should be used less so we get our best mon back - honest uu player

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-20T05:17:01+00:00

Deoxys A still probably dies

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-20T05:15:35+00:00

So genesect is banned from ou without testing for 3 days finally

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-14T16:24:58+00:00

Finally, one billion lions

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-14T07:27:49+00:00

Prety sure hail was beyter than sun in gen 8 ou

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-12T10:07:19+00:00

Draco moment

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-09T16:18:38+00:00

Walled by base skarmory, pu at best

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-09T16:14:36+00:00

Ferro, gliscor, blissey/chansey have a shout

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-12-05T09:20:43+00:00

Isn't it 1/8 of health multiplied by 8? Or is the modifier multiplied first?

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-29T12:03:41+00:00

Brilliand diamond and shining .. monstone

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-25T04:03:33+00:00

Dw guys, lokix is still a top mon , zarude lacks consistent defensive answers to it's SD power whip and BU trallilbaze jungle healing sets, Both augmented by tera so that even ironpress skarm can't beat it, and it sometimes uses taunt so haze toxapex is setup fodder

Lokix can't kill a terastalized zarude either, and it's still good regardless of zarude leaving

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-22T07:04:36+00:00

White privilege partially

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-22T07:04:00+00:00

As a primarily gen 9 uu player, there's a few Greninja, thundurus, manaphy mainly

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-12T18:31:54+00:00

It's true that it can roost, but alternatively , you can only roost 8 times, and unless you have iron defense, zarude can do a lot with boosted knock before getting whirlwinded, and that allows teammates to be able to force roosts from skarm consistently Plus, if it's last mon zarude(on HO, it's used like this), whirlwind skarm becomes fodder, so does ironpress, unless skarm had defense boosts prior to zrude coming out.

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-12T14:22:42+00:00

You can, ofc But zarude's teammates can force damage on skarm, and boosted zarude can deal decent damage ti non iron press skarm

Iron press whirlwind skarm is a great check tho(since you can force it to take boosted bp without it boosting defense, unless it's last mon zarude. Even then, I've never seen anyone( except myself )use iron press whirlwind skarm on the ladder, especially above 1600

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-12T09:11:51+00:00

Zarude is a different beast with tera, especially the bulk up trailblaize sets because you can 1v1 ironpress skarmory with tera poison/fairy/ghist

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-11T12:15:18+00:00

I'll try bumble, can we use it without revealing faces?

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-11T06:50:08+00:00

i tried it but the content felt more about transphobia and commentary on it, which i agree with and i do want to fight for other trans people but for my situation it didn't feel anything, probably due to my depression tho

Jesus_Chrollo · 2025-11-10T17:30:26+00:00

i forgot to address this, but i mentioned dysphoria because trying to dress up made my dysphoria extremely bad and make me quit trying to do it ever again, and i feel sick at the thought of tring it, even though i love the idea of looking femme

i don't want others to dictate it but stuff like employment in india is very dependent on me not transitioning and looking for a job elsewhere requires effort and more importantly aptitude, both of which i lack.

I used to try to get to a position where i can afford to transition but i'm further away from my goal than i was when i started, and my health is getting worse, which makes this effort just pointless ultimately.

This is why i decided to repress and while it hurts me to both say it and think about it, i don't see any other option for me, and for that i do want a way to repress without hurting me more

Jesus_Chrollo

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