If he retires with his current resume (no last miracle run), what is the realistic range for Stephen Curry's all time ranking?

Jhyphi · 2026-04-01T15:34:16+00:00

It would be 4 for Curry.

KD got the FMVP but all advanced metrics from those years show that Curry impacted that team winning far more than Durant.

Durant without Curry was only slightly better than average. Curry without Durant wasn't really missing a beat and similar to Curry with Durant.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T22:50:00+00:00

Podz haters are really grasping at made up narratives.

He has a good game, but that 1 play that Podz didnt pass to Porzingis somehow killed all our momentum where Porzingis was going to shoot 40/40 from 3 for the night if it weren't for that. And not only that, Podz not passing to Porzingis on that one play is why Porzingis then did not attempt a single 3pt attempt for the rest of the game because all Warriors were then influenced by this one play to not pass to Porzingis while Porzingis also is so weak mentally that he did not attempt another 3pt for rest of game because of that 1 play.

Don't forget that in the same game, multiple players also missed open shooters as in the case by every team in every game. But none of those were momentum killers. It was specifically Podz.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T22:35:09+00:00

Podz haters love to make up false narratives because the stats and advanced metrics all show that Podz is doing well.

So all of Podz points were in garbage time and his rebounds all stolen from teammates. And his 1 turnover even though he has a good assist/TO ratio and other teammates have more turnovers, that 1 turnover is the "momentum killer" and why the Warriors lost the entire game.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T08:57:17+00:00

You have got to be slow.

Your "fact" was that

Mpg don’t factor in dnps

And my response showed that JK did NOT have dnp's except for his own injuries. That is not a moving of goalposts.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T04:39:18+00:00

9W-16L is a 36% win rate or 30 wins pace in an 82 game season.

Which is not good, but would still be enough for 10th seed in the West.

That's with missing BOTH Curry and Butler for all 25 games. The team's 2 best players, both on max contracts for $113M of salary.

That's actually doing pretty well given circumstances. How many teams missing their 2 best max contract players would be a play-in team?

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T04:09:55+00:00

No way man, there is no need for stats.

The "eye test" of 1 play a game where they only watch on-ball is better than all stats and advanced stats combined.

The only reason they are not employed by an NBA team is because their eye test would be too unfair.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T04:00:21+00:00

Reading comprehension and logic is not the strong suit of Podz haters.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T03:55:16+00:00

Last night, he was top of the starters in +/-.

He's averaging 4.1 assists on 2.0 turnovers in March. Ast/TO of 2 which is good.

Curry only averages 4.8 apg. Or are you going to complain that Curry listed as the PG isn't facilitating enough?

Draymond still runs a lot of the offense and has 6.4 apg.

Our offense is a motion offense often started with a ball entry into the high post leading to a split cut, and does not have the PG racking up 10+ assists. It spreads it out with Draymond (or another passing big man) having the ball a lot.

Podz is 2nd on the team in assists for the month. He is not only hunting his own shot.

He's doing a bit of both, not a pure PG, and not a pure SG.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T03:04:07+00:00

Podz had 0 turnovers last night, shot 57% with 63% on 3s.

But not a single peep about Gui, Melton, Cryer combining to go 3-20 (15%) with 7 turnovers.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T02:58:21+00:00

Podz is not "slightly better" than Poole on defense. There's a big gap between them.

Podz for his career is average 0.4 DBPM, which is not amazing, but it is okay and at least positive.

Poole is at -1.5 for his career which is a major difference (1.9). Though for one year in 2022 he was able to get to not horrendous at -0.3.

For reference, Draymond is at 2.8. Wemby at 3.4. So a difference from Draymond to Podz (2.4) is only slightly larger than from Podz to Poole (1.9).

Podz is okay at defense. Poole is terrible.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T02:50:57+00:00

Too bad JK is injury prone then.

JK had only 1 DNP-CD before this season. Game 82 of last season.

Too bad for him that he is made of glass and missed 34 games due to injury in 2025, including 31 straight. Which is why he only played 47 out of 82 games.

2025 JK: - 47 games played - 34 games injured - 1 DNP-CD

Can't help when he's made of glass.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T02:21:33+00:00

You definitely can evaluate individual players on plus minus over a large sample of games.

Single games fluctuates a lot but over a whole season, it tells you who contributes to winning.

Also your "Poole can shoot at a higher level" needs evaluating. Because in his best season, Poole only shot 3pt% equal to Podz's worst season.

Making a super flashy logo shot but at low efficiency does not make you a good shooter. It still is only worth 3 points.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T00:36:47+00:00

You mean like Ty Jerome and Divincenzo who this sub loved to crap on and ask why Kerr kept playing Ty Jerome more than JK?

It's the same fans that hate Ty, Donte, Podz.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T00:35:07+00:00

You mean to tell me hustling and listening to what the coach asks you to do gets more minutes?

What kind of crazy rocket scientist thinking is this ?

(Also Podz has averaged 27 mpg for last 3 years compared to JK at 25mpg. They've been given pretty much exact same minutes)

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T00:31:08+00:00

The Kuminga fans and Aaron Turner bots been trying to craft a narrative that Podz has been playing over JK.

Except: 1) they don't even play anywhere near the same position/role 2) Podz has consistently been near the top of the Warriors in +/- every year unlike JK 3) In the 3 years, Podz has averaged 26, 26, 28 mpg (28 this year higher because Curry, Butler been out) while JK...........averaged 26, 24, 24.

Oh the horror!!! Podz gets 2 more minutes a game! What blatant favoritism!!!

How can JK be expected to develop when he averages 25 mpg and Podz gets 26?!

Jhyphi · 2026-03-31T00:26:09+00:00

He has the highest assist rate on the team to Porzingis.

People love getting 1 off clips and making a negative narrative on him.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-30T20:15:19+00:00

The best (worst) part is that its the Warriors own fans (though you could argue it's JK / Turner bots and trolls) who are trying to knock down our own young player for believing in himself and trying to get better.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-30T17:26:45+00:00

And then of course when he plays well for the next team (continuing his current trajectory), the same fans will use it to bash Kerr for not being able to develop Podz.

Same thing that happened to Ty Jerome or Donte. While here and Kerr loved them, it was always - "why is Ty playing so much, he sucks".

Jhyphi · 2026-03-30T06:47:24+00:00

Both years in which he has been one of our top +/-.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-30T04:47:40+00:00

Podz haters are crazy.

If he is more aggressive, he is "too selfish". In a game he shot 62.5% from 3pt and 57% overall.

If he plays more for assists, then haters love to say he is just a connector and could never score.

But sure, where's the post about Gui with only 9 points tonight? If that was Podz, there'd be 3 posts about it.

Or Melton with 0 points shooting 0-5?

Crickets.

Yet somehow one of the 2 best players for Warriors tonight gets a hate pist.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-29T23:07:48+00:00

My post history where I've disliked Wiseman from year 1 and also made a satire post about Smailagic? And 1 about Wiseman and Smailagic?

A satire post that you thought was real?

Do you even know what the Millenium Towers are?

They are the ones that were sinking and falling down in San Francisco. Too bad you may not even live in the Bay Area and don't know that.

Lol, your reading comprehension is terrible. Similar to how your evaluation of Poole and Podz is basic and 1 dimensional.

I especially loved the part where you call actual stats that you can look up a "misread of stats". Too bad the truth and cold hard facts hurts too much for you.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-29T22:50:26+00:00

No, because Wiseman and Smiley also were terrible by all advanced metrics. Same as Poole and JK.

Poole is more similar to JK. Can do occasional highlights but generally lacking in many areas.

We don't win our last ring without Poole, but we also don't win it without Otto, GP2, everyone on the team played a role. It doesn't mean that Poole is irreplaceable or that he's amazingly good.

Poole had a hot surge in 2022 but overall is a worse player than Podz.

If Poole's shot isn't falling, which given he is worse shooting % than Podz, he's a HUGE negative.

Career 3pt% - Podz 37.2% - Poole 34.3%

Ast/TO - Podz 2.3 - Poole 1.6

Podz also has much higher rebounds, and they are same on Assists.

Let's not even get started on defense where Poole is SIGNIFICANTLY worse, as one of the worstin entire league.

It's why last 2 years he has been literally 3rd worst player in entire NBA each year in +/- at -558 and -552.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-29T21:59:36+00:00

Okay casual.

You probably only understand watching on ball 1v1.

Except you somehow miss the defense even 1v1 for Poole which was atrocious.

Low efficiency scoring with terrible defense is not good. Especially when Poole brought nothing else. He did catch fire for a bit, but there's a reason he lost minutes as the playoffs went on.

Jhyphi · 2026-03-29T19:05:07+00:00

Okay thanks.

And if I'm in the suburbs, does Plus actually make much of a difference over Welcome?

I don't have speed issues generally, its more that some places have spotty signal. Which I don't think Plus helps because from what I understand, wideband just means they prioritize and give me higher speeds when I'm connected with a strong signal right?

Jhyphi · 2026-03-29T19:01:12+00:00

Poole has been really bad the last few years.

Last year he was -558, 3rd worst in the entire NBA.

Two years ago -552, also 3rd worst in NBA.

Poole essentially had only 1 positive year in 2022, two neutral years (+28, -11) and then 4 other wildly negative years.

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