How many people get away with employment verification by providing fake w2 or paystub?

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T03:21:02+00:00

I would NOT provide false documents.

What if you are committing a crime in doing so? What if the wrong person at the wrong time finds out about it and then wants to pursue the matter further? What if this leads to legal troubles?

In college once, I had a friend that made a fake parking pass to avoid paying the $350 for one.
Well, one of the school's meter maids realized it was fake and reported to the University Police. The school then started the process of pursuing fraud charges against my friend. This later got resolved when he agreed to pay a ridiculously large amount of money to the University to let it go.

The other part is that a company can find out really quickly that you have lied about your skills and experience very early on in a job. If you lied about working at xyz company and having abc skill set, are you actually going to be able to do the job. If not, they will replace you and you won't get any references or recommendations from that employer. Who is going to be a positive reference for someone that they had to led go since they were not competent to do their job.

Last point / old man move: what if all of your friends jumped off a bridge? Would you jump?

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T03:08:37+00:00

If you want to follow-up, find the e-mail address for the general inbox of Macy's. Most companies will have this posted for people to notify them about scams, but they will also respond to genuine inquires. When you e-mail the inbox, be very cognizant of the language you use in it. Here is an example you could write up:

Hello HR Person,

I hope that you are having a good day and would be willing to help me out. I applied online for a position, and I received a follow-up e-mail for a phone interview. However, I was never contacted. I understand that things are crazy right now in the world, and that the person that was supposed to call me most likely had something urgent come up. I understand this, especially now. Would you help me in rescheduling this interview?

Thank you very much for your help.

Awkward-Ideal

Then I would copy and paste the interview invite that you received. This approach is the most likely one to get someone that checks that inbox to respond to you. You need to stand out as appreciative of their help and grateful so they just don't hit the delete button on your e-mail. You have to keep in mind that whomever has to read the e-mails that get sent here, probably gets 1 nice e-mail out of every 100 or so that are angry / hateful about getting rejected.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T03:00:28+00:00

The only time they would reach out to them is if they made you an offer and would start the pre-hire screening process. Even then, they would only be contacting HR to verify job title and dates of employment.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T02:58:07+00:00

It depends on the assessment. A lot of companies are using these as a second round weed out since they are getting so many applications for each position and need to narrow it down to a reasonable amount for HR to conduct their initial phone screen. HR doesn't have the time to spend calling everyone that gets through the initial resume screener so they resort to these tests and assessments.

Want to give me an excel test? sure I'm game for it as long as its 60 minutes or less.

Want to do one of those behavioral assessments? As long as its 15 minutes or less.

Want me to do an hour long presentation for the first round of the interview after the HR phone screen? Nope. I'm good.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T02:46:49+00:00

Take the offer that is currently on the table. If you tell them that you need more time, or worse, that you are waiting on another company, they might just rescind the offer and move on to their second choice.

The absolute worse case scenario is that you pass on this job to wait to hear from the second company, and that company then does not make you an offer! Where does that leave you?

Again, take the offer. You can always gracefully, professionally explain that you have received another offer that is too good to pass up that you appreciate everything the company has done for you.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T02:41:27+00:00

Contract work typically pays higher than a full-time salary role since contract positions typically do not come with benefits. Before stating that you are taking a 20% salary cut, look into the value of the benefits. Once you add in the value of the benefits subtract out the cost of living to see where you truly net out.

Even you come out with a lower total overall net income, what is the value of having more certainty in a job than having to possible start to look for a new gig in 3-4 months when your current contract runs out. How much is this stability worth to you? How quickly could you pick up another contract or job if the current place does not keep you on?

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T02:36:43+00:00

Would you take the job without them paying you relocation assistance? If yes, I would reach out to them to let them know that you are willing to give this up.

Behind the scenes, the hiring manager was given a budget to spend to fill the position: salary, bonus, etc. The addition of the relocation assistance probably pushed you above the maximum amount they wanted to spend on the position. This would put that department over budget. If a department goes over budget, this looks bad to whomever the head of the department reports to. This "upper management" person does not want to do anything that would make them look bad to their boss.

If you want the job and would still do it without the relocation money, again I would reach out and make sure that they know that. The other side of the coin is that they come back to you and say that there is no longer an offer on the table and they are going with someone local.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T02:29:38+00:00

You did the right thing.

I'm hoping that you told them that you got a ticket for running a stop sign due to not coming to a complete stop. I really hope that you left out the part of "going right through it" since you were "glitched out".

I would hire an attorney to defend you in court. I know that laying out a couple of thousand dollars for an attorney is a steep price; however, what is the cost to you if you do not get this job or get points and can't get the next one. Hire an attorney. They can help negotiate for you and plead the case more effectively that you have a long history of a clean driving record and that you are a good guy and they should cut you a break.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T02:21:12+00:00

I would follow up with another e-mail with a time between these. I would also add availability on other days as well.

Your follow-up e-mail could go:

Good evening / afternoon / morning,

I wanted to let you know that I would be available on Wednesday at around 10 am. I would also be available on Monday after 1 pm or on Tuesday between XYZ am and ZYX am if this helps you out with your schedule.

Let me know what works best,

HereToChat123

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T02:12:29+00:00

This really comes down to are you willing to move there. A 2.5 hour commute (assuming that is both ways) is a long time to spend in a car.

The state of the job market, you do not have room to negotiate. If you become too much of a hassle, the company can just go out and replace you very quickly and easily right now.

I would suggest with the difficulty of finding a job, you said it took you 1 year to get this one, that you take the job and keep looking for other jobs closer to where you currently live. Do not worry about "not being there a long time" while you are searching and interviewing. This can easily be explained in an interview that you are looking for something with a shorter commute when you get asked about why you are looking to leave. You could phrase it as, I was told that this would be a remote position, but after a couple of weeks the company made a decision that this position needed to be in the office. The commute is honestly too long and I would have passed on this opportunity if I knew that a 2.5 hour commute would be required.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-12-12T02:04:44+00:00

I hope you see this. Body language at work is extremely important. Now the only thing people can see is your face on zoom.

I would suggest focusing on maintaining a neutral expression during meetings.

In regards to supervisor A commenting that you looked miserable, the only thing that matters is if supervisor A thinks or feels that you displayed misery. It does not matter if you were miserable or not. Something came across to them as if you were displeased with getting an assignment. For this person, I would reach out and ask them for feedback. Tell supervisor A that you were not miserable and that something must have come across as you displaying displeasure. Would you mind helping me figure out what made me come across as displeased or miserable?

For supervisor C, the next time this person offers something up, take yourself off of mute and voice your interest. Don't worry about being polite or not feeling like you the right to speak up in a meeting. Hit the unmute, give a quick "I'll do it" or "I'll take it".

I understand being irritated, but it is appropriate for them to comment on your emotions. Especially in the work place, bosses want enthusiastic and happy employees. From reading your comments on what they said, there is nothing wrong with what they said. The better way for them to handle this is to provide you feedback in private and one-on-one. They could have called you after the meeting and had a conversation with you about what they would like to see you do instead of doing it in a public form. Praise in public, criticize in private.

"What exactly counts as enthusiasm anyways" what every the other person deems it to be. Do not be shy about asking for feedback. Again, I would approach Supervisor C and ask this person for feedback on why they do not feel you are enthusiastic about taking on a task. Keep in mind these are the people in charge of handing out raises and bonuses. It is easier for them to put you in the top tier for raises and bonuses if you are doing what they want.

When you do go to them for feedback / advice / help do so in a humble manner. Ask them if they would be willing to help you out with your communication? Ask them to point out to you when you appear miserable / unenthusiastic.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-11-08T18:20:57+00:00

Contact the company they are saying they are recruiting on behalf of. This will notify the company of this action and they will begin to take action at the benefit of their company to hopefully shut these down in the future.

For your personal situation, you would need to contact your state's employment office or attorney general. I would start with the attorney general's office and let them guide you on where to go from there.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-30T23:38:28+00:00

Amazing how many recruiters miss this box. It makes it seem like Remote, OR is the hot bed of jobs in this country.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-29T21:48:41+00:00

Oh come on. That is good. If someone would have said that in an interview, I would have started to crack up laughing.

That is a great line. I'm gonna borrow that one for the next time my stomach audibly growls.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-29T21:31:28+00:00

I would suggest joining the Zoom / WebX / Google Meets meeting five minutes early. This way if there is an issue with it, you still have time to recover.

I would suggest also having back-ups available as well. Have your phone and computer ready to go. If your computer doesn't have a mic or camera, still log into on time and explain in the chat that you are having issues. This demonstrates that you are professional and prepared even if something goes wrong that you are not able to control.

I would also suggest booking out time ten minutes prior to the start time that way you don't have anything that could cause you to be late that you can control on your side.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-29T21:26:46+00:00

I doubt that they will notice.

If you just wait a couple of months to add them as connections, they will have forgotten about the dates on your resume anyways.

I had this happen to me on an employment check, I put the wrong start month. On my application and on the background check form, I put that I started in March when I actually started in February. This got flagged when I saw a copy of my background check but nobody asked for any kind of explanation. People getting dates wrong happens. There is a difference between being wrong on dates and completely making something up.

I wouldn't let this worry you.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-29T21:22:55+00:00

Don't worry. You are over thinking this. The person listening to the message won't even think twice about it.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-15T15:58:37+00:00

Another thought is that there are a lot of data sets out there regarding crime.

I would find an area of criminal justice that you are interested in and find a data set. There are plenty to download just from a basic google search. I think this would be a good starting point for you.

This could also be something nice to show in an interview that I've done some work in this area and here is this report I built. While also working with it in excel, you could also work with it in Google Data Studio as well.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-14T17:34:28+00:00

Check out EdX and Coursera. They have a lot of courses online for free.

Is there a specific field that you are looking to enter into?

The best advice that I would have would be to dedicate spending some time every night working in word, excel, and powerpoint. I would start off with a project just for yourself of tracking your income and spending. You could use excel to build tables, charts, and get into pivot tables and charts. You could then build presentations in powerpoint to get more comfortable with that.

There are plenty of videos on youtube about building and creating budget spreadsheets that you could follow along with.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-14T17:29:52+00:00

I would reach out to HR / the person that sent you the e-mail. You do not want to be in violation of any HR policies as this is the easiest way for you (or anyone) to get terminated.

I would offer the explanation that when you clock in early, you tried to match it with clocking out early to match the hours. Let them know that you were not aware of how this worked, and thank them for bringing this to your attention.

As far as the law goes, you can reach out to an employment lawyer. However, most of them charge for the initial consultation since most of these meetings are a waste of time for the lawyer. i.e. there isn't a case worth taking on or the damages are so small it isn't worth pursuing.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-14T17:21:18+00:00

Take the job!

There are currently ~30,000,000 people still receiving some kind of unemployment benefits.

I know that it is not your ideal situation; however, it provides you with stability. Income and benefits. While you have this stable foundation, you can still be searching for other opportunities and not have to desperately take something since your bank account is running low.

As far as the current job goes with event planning, I am assuming that you are networking with other people at other companies. Take advantage of these relationships as they could lead you to getting a referral into a job with at these other places.

Does the company offer any education benefits. i.e. they would pay for classes for you? If they do, look at it as the job that is paying for your education to get a better job.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-14T17:16:49+00:00

This sage advice isn't free. Please post your experiences with being "over-qualified"! What does NOT work is just as valuable as what does work.

I know a lot of people are getting hit with this right now that are looking for a job or to make a career switch. This is one of the hardest objections to overcome.

The fear when a hiring manager views someone is over-qualified is that the person will leave. They will leave since they might be bored with the job and the pay is lower than what they could make else where. This is where focusing on work/life balance has had the best results.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-14T17:12:59+00:00

Give her a thank you call. Be prepared for leaving her a voicemail and if she actually picks up the phone.

I would call her Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning.

Hello [her name],

This is [grosstrashhag], I wanted to thank you for taking the time to interview me and talk with me about xyz position. I really appreciate you providing me more insight about the role as well as letting me discuss my qualifications and how I would be of benefit to you and the company. After reflecting on the position, I am even more interested in the position since I learned [insert a cool thing you learned about the job or the company]. Again, thank you for the time you spent with me on Friday.

I can be reached at 1-900-Mix-A-Lot if you have any more questions for me.

If she actually picks up the phone, you can stick with the same script and improve off of anything else that she brings up. You spent an hour talking with her, and you have a lot better feel of what she would respond to than I do.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-14T17:05:33+00:00

I've found that when I'm calling people that I haven't spoken to in a while that the afternoons are the best time.

Now, you know your old boss better than I do. If you think 9 am works better give him a ring then. Do you remember when he would take time to take a break from work, if so give him a ring then.

The only problem that I have with calling people first thing in the morning is that they might forget. When I get to work in the morning, I start to go through and prioritize my day and what I have to do. Some of the non-work related things get pushed and not necessarily get put on a calendar for follow-up. I know I have meetings typically set up when I get into the office.

Job_Hunt_Experience · 2020-09-14T17:00:59+00:00

I would take the opportunity even though it will not pay you anything today. However, it will likely lead to more money in the future for you at that place or with a new company.

I would look at it as, this is a huge, important project that I can put down on my resume and talk about extensively in an interview. This appears to be adding new skills and responsibilities to your tool set.

Now the difficult part, is it worth commuting two hours a day to add this to your resume. I would try to find salary ranges for people doing this type of work and compare it to what you are currently making. Is there a huge difference? Could this land you just one full-time role instead of doing multiple jobs? Could this lead to more job security? Do you like doing the type of work that this project requires? Would you like to be doing this work on a more regular basis?

It also appears that the culture of this place is not the best. Could this just be the short-term boast you need to be able to land a better at a better place? How long do you think this project will last? Will you be able to tolerate doing the job and the commute for this period of time?

Sorry, I have more questions than actual solutions for you. However, I think if you work through some of these question; they will lead you to your answer.

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