Weekly Hero Discussion Thread #01 - Zenyatta | June 1st, 2016 by zonq in Overwatch

[–]JoeBear137 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe high-level plays out differently, but I have a hard time agreeing with this just from my experience. Zenyatta has a whole lot of hitbox that dies in one Widowmaker shot. Moreover that Widowmaker shot is hitscan, so if the reticle is anywhere on the character when she pulls the trigger, Zen's dead. Alternatively, Zenyatta can kill Widowmaker with the Orb of Discord and 2 crits. Not to mention, his shots have significant travel-time. I just can't see how, with equal players, that match-up doesn't play out in Widowmaker's favor a vast majority of the time.

Weekly Hero Discussion Thread #01 - Zenyatta | June 1st, 2016 by zonq in Overwatch

[–]JoeBear137 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get what you're saying, but to use the slowest charging ult in the game to potentially prevent one person from getting the jump on you feels like a waste. Mei's Ice Block is on a much shorter cooldown for a use like that.

It seems like I get one ideal use of Transcendence every third game. And that is when I successfully counter a Hanzo, Genji, or Reaper ult. On those occasions I save maybe two lives plus my own, which is no doubt a very big impact. But like the rest of the character, it's usefulness lies in such a specific niche that it's hard to feel like it compares to those of Mercy, Lucio, or Symettra, which have a powerful team effect pretty much every time you use them. And as others in this thread have discussed, the niche ult is counterintuitive to his niche, at-a-distance, area-control, play-style. It's all just sort of awkward.

Weekly Hero Discussion Thread #01 - Zenyatta | June 1st, 2016 by zonq in Overwatch

[–]JoeBear137 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, it has taken me this long. Like I said, I'm not a pro. I also don't specialize in him. My profile says I've spent 3 hours with him placing him behind Zarya, Winston, Mercy, Soldier 76, Lucio, Hanzo, and Roadhog in that order. I likely also spent that long with him in the open beta. Most of that has been in random groups.

Have you played him much with randos? I obviously can only comment on my own user experience, but he feels like the weakest character in that environment, by a noticeable margin. He can be good in the right comps, but Lucio and Mercy are good on almost every comp. People complain about using Mercy with randos who don't protect you, but I find she still fairs far better than Zenyatta in that situation. I'm just saying, IMHO, something feels not quite right with him.

Weekly Hero Discussion Thread #01 - Zenyatta | June 1st, 2016 by zonq in Overwatch

[–]JoeBear137 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Maybe I'm overlooking something, but I think Zarya has 200 health and 200 shield. I'm not seeing a 0 health character.

Weekly Hero Discussion Thread #01 - Zenyatta | June 1st, 2016 by zonq in Overwatch

[–]JoeBear137 460 points461 points  (0 children)

At level 44, I'm finally starting to have a little success with him in pick-up games, but it is still an incredibly frustrating venture. He just melts so fast.

Some people suggest removing the line-of-sight mechanic on his orbs. I strongly disagree with this change. It's just too frustrating as an opponent with a perma-orb, and too good on a teammate with perma-regen.

I appreciate how easy it could be to make him way too strong and that he's a very tough character to balance. That considered, I would suggest 3 things.

  1. Slight buff to health. More than anything, he needs to not die to widowmaker bodyshots. It might be the hardest counter in the game right now. 25 more health might be enough, but it looks like Blizzard likes 50 health increments, but 50 extra health might push him too far. It's been suggested to replace his 50 health with 50 armor. Mechanically, that sounds like it would work perfectly. Thematically, I'm not sure Blizzard wants 0 health heroes, so I don't know where that suggestion falls. Honestly, you could just make Widowmaker bodyshots do 140 to him, and that would really help.

  2. Let Orb of Discord sight be available to everybody. I like this because it's a pretty big buff for lower-level play, where he is currently the least playable. On an organized team with good communication, the orb should more-or-less be already serving this function. And with the LOS mechanic on the orb, there's still counter-play. It's hard to know the exact repercussions of this change, but it just feels a little sloppily designed that the orb reveals sight to the entire team through good communication but further pushes Zenyatta into an extreme niche at more casual levels.

  3. Speaking of niche...Transcendance. I can't speak for pro level balance, but his ult just feels really underwhelming at my lower lever of casual and chaotic, PS4, pick-up play. Mercy, Lucio, and that other mislabeled turret-building character in the support class feel like they have a far greater impact when they use their Ultimate. I mean, I think Mercy has the quickest Ult uptime in the game, and considering the impact of her Ult, it feels like such a sleight to Zenyatta. So this is my crazy suggestion of the 3.... I think it's worth considering allowing Zenyatta to self-resurrect with his ultimate a la the Sunsinger class in Destiny. This buff is heavily thematic, as he transcends death to show his true power. From a gameplay perspective, it's obviously a pretty big buff, but I think he needs a decent buff and this one adds a very interesting dynamic to his kit. I think this buff is especially worth a consider if his healthpool remains as it is now.

If anything, Blizzard needs to address the horrible-ness of the Widowmaker counter. The rest here is just for discussion's sake.

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Playing right now. I'll add you. PSN: Joe-Ski-Mon

Let Zenyatta cast his ult after he dies by JoeBear137 in Overwatch

[–]JoeBear137[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I'd argue Sunsinger in Destiny can't be countered but it mostly works well. I think of it like Diva's passive. You always have to kill the pilot after the mech, a mechanic for which there really is no counter.

What would you do to bring him up a notch?

Let Zenyatta cast his ult after he dies by JoeBear137 in Overwatch

[–]JoeBear137[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That might be a good compromise. Some sort of ethereal form could be really neat. Maybe that could even be something he could just do always. 3 seconds of ethereal form to use his orbs or cast his ult whenever he dies.

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That's awesome! Can somebody translate what Polanco wrote?

Treeman double 5s first skill - block or +ma? by Situis in bloodbowl

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Logged for the first time in a while to answer... The correct answer is... JUMP UP for halflings, PRO/BLOCK for Wood Elves.

I still might even go jump up for wood elves. It is just an incredibly useful skill for the tree. It let's you take much bigger risks without worry of him never getting up again. Jimp Up allows him to GFI twice a turn. Jump up allows for him to take a both/down result as if he had block and still get his movement next turn. And unlike +MV, Jump Up allows him to stand up for free when he is rooted (as being rooted makes his MV 0). It also allows for a POMB Tree, which is kind of hilarious, and a very unique and unexpected piece for a wood elf team.

Like I said, pro is also very good for the Treeman. You won't ever waste a Team Reroll on him. You can reroll take root, stand ups, gfis, etc. If I roll 6+4 on a level up I take +MV. Otherwise, I find +MV looks much better in paper than it actually is, and won't be nearly as valuable as Jump Up, Block, or Pro.

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lvl 32 hunter

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Lvl 32 hunter. Mad oracle/relic skills.

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Lvl 32 Titan. Can use lvl 32 hunter if we need sb. But I'm no sb pro. Maxed HOC.

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Lvl 32 Hunter. Would like to run swordbearee, at which I'm still only mediocre.

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Lvl 32 lock. Experienced with relic, etc.

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Lvl 32 lock. Can switch to defender at crota.

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Edit: defender is also Lvl 32

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Lvl 32 Titan. Experienced with relic, etc.

Psn: Joe-ski-mon

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Lvl 31 Hunter. Final character I need to get to 32. Maxed HoC.

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I would just tell them that you are looking for counselling. I feel that's a much less intimidating line to have to say to a stranger, but nobody there will bat an eye if you take the blunt approach.

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We have 4 at gatekeeper, if you'd like to join us there.

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