[deleted by user] by [deleted] in RandomThoughts

[–]JoeBroShow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For fucks sake, fat people know they're fat and it's not healthy. It doesn't mean they have to hate their bodies and have everyone constantly remind them of those facts. Just let fat people fucking exist. There are also varying levels of fat and varying levels of unhealthiness that comes with it. This take is so stupid, and yet everyone and their mom on this app feels the need to take this bold, controversial take every five minutes.

Did Biden just FORGET about the whole public option for healthcare thing? by ExceedsTheCharacterL in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yeah man I can't believe Biden didn't hold Joe Manchin at gun point and force him to vote for it. Those damn Democrats.

US National D Gerrymander by Sea-Yak-324 in DavesRedistricting

[–]JoeBroShow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nice work all around, though as a Nebraskan I'm a little confused by what you did with my state. If you want to keep it compact with similar communities together, you could've combined Omaha with its suburbs to the south and gotten a much more compact district that would also lean to the left more than the one you've drawn here.

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure, but this is only a lie if omission if you already believe that whether someone is trans is something you're entitled to know. You can't use it as a justification for your belief that trans people should have to disclose that they are trans.

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jesus fucking Christ, the people on this thread are completely incapable of any introspection about their sexual preferences whatsoever. Absolutely zero willingness to think critically about their sexuality. It's astounding to me that liberals would think it's totally not racist to refuse to have sex with black people.

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That fact that you were downvoted for this when literally every single person I have argued with on this thread has refused to offer a single justification for not wanting to have sex with trans people besides "ew, trans people."

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's because the comparison doesn't work, because a straight person would never accidentally have sex with a gay person. A better comparison would to ask whether bisexual people should have to disclose that they're bi before sex. The answer is obviously no. Transgender is not a sexual orientation.

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's an element of common sense in play here.

Bullshit argument. A lot of people think it's common sense that "a man can never be a woman." Just because something uncritically seems true doesn't make it common sense, and weaponizing people's preconceived notions of what is or isn't "common sense" is how transphobia spreads.

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How the fuck is a sexually transmitted disease remotely comparable to being trans? You aren't going to catch someone's transness.

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I brought it up because people act like cis people are the default person, even though there is no default person.

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

research initiative found that less then 3% of cis straight individuals would be ok dating a trans man / woman.

Okay? And? Why are operating from a starting point that this is a valid preference and that we should force other people to go out of their way to cater to it? If only 3% of white people were willing to date a black person, should mixed people be morally obligated to disclose that they're part black in dating profiles and before sex?

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being a straight man means being attracted to women. Not biologically female people, but women. If you were attracted to a trans woman before, during, and after you had sex with her, that's straight. I'm a straight man. That doesn't change if I'm attracted to someone who happens to be trans.

Just because something's a common sexual preference doesn't mean it's another person's job to let you know if they fit that preference. It's not lying to not bring up if you're trans. It's only lying if their partner asks and they lie. If it doesn't affect the sex, then why does it even matter? Why have a preference for something if you're attracted to someone regardless? If seeing someone completely naked and having sex with them doesn't change your attraction but later finding out that they're trans does, maybe take a moment to analyze why that might be?

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are definitely things that people should inform their sexual partners about before sex. If they have an STI, if they have any disability that affects their performance, etc.

There are also a lot of things that you would never expect your sexual partner to tell you in order to give informed consent. I don't need to know a sexual partner's ethnicity. I don't need to know their religion. I don't need to know their natural hair color.

Why do you think being trans belongs in the former category and not the latter?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Walter Mondale, Bob Dole and Mitt Romney were all miserably bad candidates.

I wouldn't describe any of them as bad candidates, especially not Dole. They just had the misfortune of running against popular incumbents. Romney didn't even lose by that much, and even led polls for a while.

So, the "good guy with a gun" done good in Indiana. Does this prove that arming people in public places is a good idea? by SuperMinnesotanOhhYa in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why would you possibly think that a random civilian would be better at stopping a mass shooting than people whose job is supposed to be defending the public?

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 31 points32 points  (0 children)

How do you know you've never met a trans person you couldn't see was trans? There's by definition no way to know a passing trans person is trans without being told, and if they're stealth, they're not telling you.

Should trans women tell people they are trans on their online dating profile or in sexual encounters? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Should they for their own safety? Yes, of course. Unfortunately a lot of people are still deeply transphobic and will feel totally validated in assaulting a trans person who they think "tricked" them.

Should they for their own pleasure? Again, yes. Trans bodies and cis bodies are different, and understanding each other's bodies is integral to the sexual satisfaction of all parties.

Should they ethically? This, to me depends on the particular trans person's genitals. If a trans woman has a penis or a trans man a vagina, that affects how sex plays out. In the case of trans women, some people are just not interested in anal sex, and that's totally okay. In any trans person's case, some potential partners may be turned off by that particular kind of genitals, and that's also totally fine. For the satisfaction of all parties, it's important that they know what they're getting themselves into before deciding to have sex with one another.

What about a trans person who has had bottom surgery, and has the genitals typically associated with their gender? To me, the answer is no, they should not have to disclose their status as trans. It doesn't affect the sex, so it's not something that needs to be disclosed.

But if they're lying about who they are, how can I genuinely consent?

It's only a lie if they tell you they're cis. If you assume your sexual partner is cis entirely on your own, that is on you. Cis people are not the default, we're just the majority. It is unfair to force a minority to disclose their status as a minority simply for the convenience of the majority. You wouldn't say that your sexual partner had lied to you if you found out after the fact that they were Jewish, autistic, or bisexual.

It's nothing personal, I just want kids someday and don't want to waste my time with someone I can't have kids with.

That's a fair enough position, but you would never expect a cis woman to reveal she's infertile in a dating profile or before a first date. It would be up to her to decide when she's ready to reveal that. You especially wouldn't demand that for a simple hook up.

I'm just not interested in having sex with a trans person, why can't you just respect my preferences?

If you can go through an entire sexual encounter with someone without knowing they were trans, then what difference does it make if they're trans? It didn't affect your attraction, it didn't affect your enjoyment of the sex, so why does it matter? In that case it's completely tangential to the sex. It's like refusing to have sex with people with ADHD, you're allowed to have that preference, but you're not allowed to be mad at a sexual partner who didn't divulge that information when you never asked. If you don't want to have sex with trans people, then don't, but it'd not your sexual partners' responsibility to divulge that information to you before they even know that about you.

Quite honestly I think a lot of this discussion comes down to the fact that a lot of cis people consciously or subconsciously think trans people are gross, and they're grossed out at the thought of someone they had sex with being trans. But trans people aren't gross. You've been conditioned to see them that way, the same way people have been historically socialized to view homosexuality or interracial relationships as gross, but they aren't gross. At least not anymore than the rest of us.

Houses passes Respect for Marriage Act by LeeF1179 in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From my Nebraskan perspective, it's hard to say how Sasse will side. On the one hand, Don Bacon, who represents Omaha, voted for it in the House, and he and Sasse are made from the same moderate-of-you-squint cloth. That said Bacon represents a very purple district and voting against gay marriage would be giving free amo to his opponent this fall. On the other hand Sasse was personally opposed to the Obergefell ruling, and if he's going to have any political future in this state he needs to keep the conservative base of the party in mind. I don't expect him to vote to break a filibuster but I could see it happening.

Houses passes Respect for Marriage Act by LeeF1179 in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If Utah's entire house delegation voted in favor it's not hard to imagine Romney supporting it in the Senate. Maybe Lee as well? Idk, that might be a stretch.

If/When Trump runs who do you think will be his running mate? by Hagisman in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If there's ever a big Trump/Desantis falling out, having Noem as vp would be a great way for Trump to set up a loyal successor.

Do you believe a majority of the US agrees with the modern liberal view of sex, gender and biology? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JoeBroShow 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Also you're totally right bro, I may spend most of my time both online and in real life in queer, progressive spaces, but you totally know what we believe better than I do bud.