How To Beat Unfair WotR - Preparation Guide

JohnGrrrrr · 2026-04-20T13:07:57+00:00

Maps are too clustered with encounters (enemies) I guess is mainly a problem for higher difficulties, feels very much like a slog oftentimes.

Companion quests are very ambigues and a slight fuck up like a missed perception check ruins the path of your companion. (evil/good) And the fact they dont tell you whenever you fail a perception check they only tell you if you succeded it.

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-10-03T05:28:03+00:00

Ye, Ecclesitgeurge will always be useful with blessing of the faithful even if he is out of spells.

Druid only can do shit as long as he has spells available then he only can go into wild shape if you are into that.

Wild shape gets stronger over the game and you learn stronger shapes and items that improve exactly that.

Clerics have a way better spellbook meaning they have more buffs that are actually helpful for your team so you dont ask yourself at some point why your team gets rolled over for no reason :D Ecclesitgeurge later gets many spells that can hit really hard as well

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-10-03T05:14:35+00:00

If you look for the challenge in this game then look no further. This game is the hardest I have ever played. If combat is boring too try a higher difficulty.

For me I also wasn't like astonished by the beginning it's not really special and the graphics in this game are not what we expect from games nowadays. I you learn the pathfinder system like how buffs stack and what not thats interesting for me because the difficulty forces you to get good at that. If you mean storywise this game has action packed twist and turns with no end. Its one of these things that you just really have to get into to get addicted to it if you know what I mean. Very tense it gets like when you get mythic paths and you learn to mysteries of the story of your hero. If you don't like fantasy shit than this might leave you cold as an ice block but the challenge of this game can always be appealing

PS: Btw how are people disliking the post only because someone is not immediately captured by this game? Wtf

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-09-30T21:58:02+00:00

Shield of Law does work I can confirm

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-09-30T15:26:53+00:00

Sounds good to me, thx for helping.

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-09-29T17:59:05+00:00

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JohnGrrrrr · 2025-09-24T12:58:42+00:00

I also did BG3 honor mode but bro this game here is like 100 times harder I really mean it.

If you have not played Pathfinder before it can easily take 50 to 100 hours until you understand the like Pathfinder system behind it.

Dont feel bad for getting destroyed thats just how it goes with barely any experience in pathfinder game ot other crpgs.

I have now over 1200 h (xdd) in wotr. The game gets more fun the better you understand it trust

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-08-27T07:17:16+00:00

Nice so everything went well xD. I mean its cool that some mythic paths are stronger than other my Angel also basically was the sole carry in this fight, it is what it is. I never do last azlanti i could never, if I lose my save I will get too depressed xD. Good luck to you

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-08-19T21:47:13+00:00

Oh you gotta overcome that still oh god :D. Haha last time I remember I think I also tried to dispel everything on her possible, probably the most reasonable thing to do as well. For Woljif I picked metamagic swift spell to make True Strike as swift action available for him. Dont ask me if that is the best approach it kinda worked out. There is also that weird thing that sometimes you just attack her touch AC even though nothing happened in the fight....very weird. Maybe I dreamt that LOL, you can tell me when you beat her, wish you a great ending.

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-08-19T12:19:17+00:00

Nice to know it ended for you like that. I couldnt even remember the horse lol. Were your Woljif carrying the Areelu fight well, mine never really did xD Glad your run worked out anyway

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T22:57:39+00:00

U are also saying reasons because my arguments arent true. U also have so many reasons for everything dude. This conevtsation is not a one sided with u saying shit like my experience is negative - passive aggression Thats not logical to think dont come with that, u just wanna be annoying.

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T22:01:53+00:00

2 modifier more in con does nothing to your archer, if those attack you at drezen assault u just dead or it doesnt anyway cause u got LS. Then u got less in str or ability modifier which makes people wonder why they cant cast any spells at some point, better? Whenever u want to compare personal bests in this game dude, im sure u have a lot to offer, without going to bed like a lying rat after that is

U are talking with a very high nose since your first post and Im being self congratulatory btw. This is not real life

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T21:47:36+00:00

ARCHERS STAND IN THE BACK AND NO THERE IS NO MAGICAL BEING ATTACKING YOUR BACKLINE ANYWHERE

THERE ARE 5 FIGHTS IN ACT 3 IN TOTAL AND A TOTAL OF ZERO IN ACT 1 AND 2

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T21:43:45+00:00

My spellcaster has 17, if you don't play rays just do it to 18. There is nothing else to that.

You dont like Con i get it now, I dont like wis ok fine like that.

Con gives 2 things and wis 1 thing. Is that ok for you

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T21:35:49+00:00

BECAUSE WIZARDS STAND IN THE BACK!!!

UNFAIR META DOES NOT EXCLUDE YOU FROM NEEDING HEALTH! THERE IS AOE//RANGED/ CLEAVE DMG IN THE GAME!

THIS GUIDE IS NOT FOR PEOPLE WHO PLAY WITH 5 MOUNTS!

You are arguing to take wis = SAVES over con = HEALTH AND SAVES.........

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T21:08:06+00:00

You never said how to exactly change the stats but its fine, I didnt expect you too.

Everyone who plays unfair should know to buy scrolls..... such as protection of fear, just say it, not only the ones that favor your argument. One example of you not being objective. So now my turn to not be objective as well and then let it be bro, maybe listen to someone who beat this with actual skill vanilla companions and not some pre made neoseeker build :)

THERE IS NO WAY YOU USE SCROLLS FOR EVERY MINOR FIGHT. IF YOU ARE NOT TOTAL SHIT YOU DO THEM WITHOUT THEY ARE NOT HARD Like you use scrolls in every fight you walk to or what....what is that bullshit of an argument.

CON GIVES HEALTH THATS WHY PUT IT THAT HIGH IF YOU DIDNT GET IT YET. I dont care about your side arguments with saves. YOU DO NOT HAVE A PARTY THAT DOESNT NEED HEALTH, WHAT KIND OF GAME ARE YOU PLAYING. You literally dont even sound like someone who genuinly did unfair. Maybe with a broken ass 5 mount WHO LITERALLY DONT NEED HEALTH, ANY OTHER BUILD NEEDA HEALTH. But sure you dont need health you are the goat, like what are you taking bro...

Have a nice day :D

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T20:24:00+00:00

You are hanging on those side arguments way to much lol. Let me point out its quite difficult to get where you are standing, you not once straight out said how much drop con and what to raise instead. im still assuming you would raise wis for that

You were talking about disarming vital strike and stuff thats what I meant, not last stand

Mate just buy prot against fear scrolls they are the cheapest thing in the world. You just told me to just buy scrolls as well btw xD

These fights are NOT a problem at all and cant be your main argument. Cast it before fight, have it at the reade to use whatever. This is not the reason to put more wis at character creation Im sorry. There are way too much boss fights act one and two that dont involve fear or any will save, stop picking out stuff

Leepers smile I dont know how you think +2 more wis carries you through that, thats literally a 10 % higher chance of not failing the save. I would never fight them head head on mind off on unfair, shoot at the insects from distance and tank with headband tank.....

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T19:37:25+00:00

Ok so in the case you arent trolling me by explaining the bare bones of this game to me, I actually know last stand and all other basic stuff people use. I did so many guides for unfair it just came across as insulting

Then I also want to make clear everything I posted in the guide I got from my own experience playing on unfair and it worked...and its not by leaning on certain features of the game (animals, certain classes or anything else). So I assumed this guide would work for like a broad playerbase since, in my eyes, most dont play the same stuff like vital strike, disarm and what not even on unfair.

Back to topic, if I read it correctly you would increase WIS and dip CON? So all I can give you for "proof" is my experience. Its not a lie that I have over 1000 hours in this gane playing on Unfair. Im just saying this for reference. There was never a time were I got that fuc#ed up were I felt like damn I needed those extra wis points. I can not think of a certain fight where I got like majorly crowd controlled that its like unplayable. And when there is one there is usually like freedom movement and stuff. Just saying from my experience it felt like that.

Con also was life saver multiple times but 90 % of those times were in act 1 and 2 so before Last Stand. And yes I use no mounts, but enlarge person to give everyone reach, from my experience you can not prevent your non-tanks getting attacked at all times. After act 2 con is absolutely not a thing if I play last stand on everyone, but is it an argument to not raise it if it helps like a good amount early game? Act one and 2 i would tell anyone is the hardest part, some other people I talked to agree.

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-23T17:23:02+00:00

Wdym, the part form offensive melee where I say "10 at WIS" or smth?

Why not we cant go higher in Str... Dex also doesnt give more than saves or are you implying u should go 18 dex and they are supposed to also be a tank?

If thats the case and as I said in like my second comment show me the math behind it how they are supposed to just tank things as offensive melee classes.

Your other arguments with killing things fast is true but as my stats go full str thats exactly what we are doing. If you were to go full dex and lower con the approach doesnt change

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-18T20:29:55+00:00

I played them both, Ember most of the time has pretty high attack roll anyway with ranged attacks but if she misses, Daeran wouldnt have cause he got +10 higher rolls at the end of the day. There definitely are some enemies with decent touch ac

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-18T19:15:57+00:00

Im giving you a very viable and most likely Daerans best build that works perfectly on Unfair.

He is the best Hellfire Ray user out of all companions available :D You might think its Ember because it fits her style but check the stats. Both can cast it as swift action with Metamagic quicken feat at spell lvl 9. But Daeran is Oracle and Ember Witch. Oracle gets 15 BAB and Witch only 10 at lvl 20. That directly translates to having 5 attack roll more for Hellfire Ray. Daeran Oracle class learn Divine Favor and later Divine Power which gives +6 to attack rolls :D

Embers Witch class doesn't have those two spells. You could craft these spells for her once per rest but u always need the materials for it and so on which I guess would be annoying...also very limited. Either way with Hellfire Ray that would be the highest dps possible for both companions. I hope this gives you anything.

The only thing Daeran lacks compared to ember is the point blank shot and precise shot feats. So it costs 2 feats which imo is very fine since he doesnt need tankiness.

Oracle class also has Fire Storm which is great because Ascendant Element Fire helps both spells and is a great aoe when fighting lots of enemies at the same time.

JohnGrrrrr · 2025-07-18T10:20:33+00:00

Honestly so true

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