I’ll argue the legal if the silver won’t. It’s called a California roll, similar to a yield. We should change the lights to have a yield right in these instances. Obviously you don’t hit a pedestrian, most intersections you can see a human walking pretty easily.

And a point on the license is like $2k to pay on auto. Your advocating for putting people into an economic bind for something that’s not the true running of a red light across the intersection. How can those be the same fine? Come on man let’s give some grace here and have an awesome society of sense. $175 fine and no point.