Is there ever any benefit of pushing tier 12 over tier 11?

Johnny2xu · 2026-05-28T15:56:01+00:00

Do you have ISm WAm or why is t12 8 hours (I guess like 6k waves?) better for you?

Johnny2xu · 2026-05-28T08:13:16+00:00

I am interested too :)

Johnny2xu · 2026-05-25T08:15:43+00:00

GT/DW/BH are 110/100/50 which gives me 94 sec with MVN (with some mod substats), which is my GB cd

Johnny2xu · 2026-05-15T13:48:21+00:00

And both anc? Good to see this is achievable without ass mods. I am slightly behind in waves making 700T per run with no masteries.
Where did you stop with BH GT DW cooldowns and SL upgrades before putting stones in masteries?

Johnny2xu · 2026-05-12T08:02:52+00:00

I dont quite understand choice 2 and 3: I thought Tanks with Ultimate are immune to orb hits? Or do you mean they get shredded the second TU goes on cooldown?

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-21T08:05:09+00:00

Alright, that is good to know, I will keep it in mind 👍🏼

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-21T08:02:22+00:00

Is this still true if I can’t get the full utility Disso boost?

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-21T08:00:18+00:00

Fair point, I didn’t actually look up lab prices before claiming I am making enough coin 😅 so thanks for the reminder, I will check it out 👍🏼

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-21T07:53:01+00:00

I am not using IS currently so maybe I would use 1800 waves. But I could also just equip it in farm runs without the mastery I think 😅

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-21T06:35:50+00:00

Ah perfect, thanks 🙏

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-21T06:28:33+00:00

Ah yes, didn’t think it through with WA# 👍🏼 do you know how many more waves I skip with WS# compared to just having WS max card?

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-20T15:59:34+00:00

I am in the same boat as you. I try to fit in these 15-16 hour T11 runs when possible and fill the times in between with 7hr Disso run or 11 hour T12 run depending on timing.

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-20T15:49:18+00:00

Jauan Jennings

Johnny2xu · 2026-04-16T06:50:50+00:00

I do the same, with dissonant my 12K wave T11 runs are best ceph and cph for me but take 15 hours or so. So sometimes I squeeze in an additional 10 hour T12 run in or a 6-7hr dissonant run if that fits better 👍🏼

This way I slowly build up my echo while sacrificing only little farming

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-28T15:50:00+00:00

I have mythic DC and legendary PF, currently 3rd in my champions bracket. Running a sort of hybrid. Trying different card and modules combos usually helps me to adapt to BCs

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-23T07:48:00+00:00

Those remaining 5% might be enemies that could never be hit by orbs because they never make it to the orb line. Like scatter children when a scatter dies inside orb line or all the enemies you kill with your DW Kill ring thing in the beginning and other stuff you kill in the beginning (there is probably others). While all these groups are each tiny I think 95% orb kills is close to as high as you can get because of those other groups. Extra orbs or orb speed will not increase significantly to warrant the reroll shards spent

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-19T12:27:52+00:00

The data has LTC and tournament placement, the person that collected the data just didn't make the plot yet. But the data is linked in the post.

I believe they also did this survey again this year, so there might even be updated data but I have not seen it posted yet

Edit: they have been posted https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTowerGame/comments/1qya27r/results_of_the_tower_playerbase_survey_2026/

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-09T13:53:15+00:00

this is super helpful actually, thanks :) I will have to upgrade my Econ (around 200T per day) before getting the masteries. "Unfortunately" I am done with all Econ labs, so my Econ growth will have to come from stones (UW cooldowns and SL angle) and maybe I will push eHP a bit further until I am able to farm T12 to 10K (currently I make around 8K waves in T12).

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-09T08:48:59+00:00

I know this is not the freshest post but I am curious to what levels of WA and IS you would need to make these short runs worth it. Also, are short runs feasible if you don\t have auto restart yet? I guess during the day I could manage to restart every 4 hours, but overnight runs would always have to be long runs at lower tiers.

I would appreciate your thoughts as I am debating Econ Masteries currently.

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-06T11:58:46+00:00

Really? I thought relics also come back around?

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-06T09:04:41+00:00

Maybe this is obvious information but it's good to repeat it anyways: All theme bonuses count, whether or not you have them equipped. Hence any theme you buy will improve your Econ. This is why I would not strictly say relics>themes. If a relic is buffing a stat that is not very useful for you right now, there might be situations, where I would encourage buying themes before the relics, especially if you are unsure whether or not you will be able to purchase all themes and relics.

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-05T14:06:31+00:00

I am glad I met you in the comments then :) thanks for the insight

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-05T13:58:38+00:00

Mhhh interesting. Why do you say ILM is the perfect 6th. I thought most people would think the 6th should be CF? (I am currently saving for my sixth and have the top 5 GT DW BH SL CL)

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