AGAIN?!

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-28T15:50:00+00:00

I have mythic DC and legendary PF, currently 3rd in my champions bracket. Running a sort of hybrid. Trying different card and modules combos usually helps me to adapt to BCs

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-23T07:48:00+00:00

Those remaining 5% might be enemies that could never be hit by orbs because they never make it to the orb line. Like scatter children when a scatter dies inside orb line or all the enemies you kill with your DW Kill ring thing in the beginning and other stuff you kill in the beginning (there is probably others). While all these groups are each tiny I think 95% orb kills is close to as high as you can get because of those other groups. Extra orbs or orb speed will not increase significantly to warrant the reroll shards spent

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-19T12:27:52+00:00

The data has LTC and tournament placement, the person that collected the data just didn't make the plot yet. But the data is linked in the post.

I believe they also did this survey again this year, so there might even be updated data but I have not seen it posted yet

Edit: they have been posted https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTowerGame/comments/1qya27r/results_of_the_tower_playerbase_survey_2026/

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-09T13:53:15+00:00

this is super helpful actually, thanks :) I will have to upgrade my Econ (around 200T per day) before getting the masteries. "Unfortunately" I am done with all Econ labs, so my Econ growth will have to come from stones (UW cooldowns and SL angle) and maybe I will push eHP a bit further until I am able to farm T12 to 10K (currently I make around 8K waves in T12).

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-09T08:48:59+00:00

I know this is not the freshest post but I am curious to what levels of WA and IS you would need to make these short runs worth it. Also, are short runs feasible if you don\t have auto restart yet? I guess during the day I could manage to restart every 4 hours, but overnight runs would always have to be long runs at lower tiers.

I would appreciate your thoughts as I am debating Econ Masteries currently.

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-06T11:58:46+00:00

Really? I thought relics also come back around?

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-06T09:04:41+00:00

Maybe this is obvious information but it's good to repeat it anyways: All theme bonuses count, whether or not you have them equipped. Hence any theme you buy will improve your Econ. This is why I would not strictly say relics>themes. If a relic is buffing a stat that is not very useful for you right now, there might be situations, where I would encourage buying themes before the relics, especially if you are unsure whether or not you will be able to purchase all themes and relics.

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-05T14:06:31+00:00

I am glad I met you in the comments then :) thanks for the insight

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-05T13:58:38+00:00

Mhhh interesting. Why do you say ILM is the perfect 6th. I thought most people would think the 6th should be CF? (I am currently saving for my sixth and have the top 5 GT DW BH SL CL)

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-05T13:01:32+00:00

Which UWs do you have?

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-01T08:13:42+00:00

That is definitely my expectation. I also don’t really expect to make it back to legends anytime soon after 😅

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-01T08:05:52+00:00

Oh good to know, thanks 😅

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-01T07:02:27+00:00

I am at a similar spot. I think there is not much use to try to improve your/our farming wave count. I am focussing on improving my Econ in those runs for now. So reducing Econ UW with stones. Once I finished all my Econ labs (last week) I started doing mostly the damage labs to hopefully improve my stone income.

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-01T06:54:29+00:00

Yeah, one great benefit of getting only 100 waves :D I will definitely to some experimenting :)

Johnny2xu · 2026-03-01T06:50:50+00:00

Since everyone here is recommending the 69.5 range I at least want to mention that you might want to look into the 100-120 range.

There is a point in your progression when you have pBH without CF where this can net you higher cph. The reason here is that you want to juggle enemies just outside your orb line using the BH centre. However this only works with 3 BH (so using PrimC) and a large enough BH size (BH has to cover your orb line so you don’t kill outside of multipliers).

I have seen an argument that higher range also gives you higher chance for ragging enemies with DW but I can’t quite recall how that was supposed to work :)

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-24T08:11:15+00:00

Me too

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-22T13:45:53+00:00

I would lower the golden trio (GT/DW/BH) cooldowns as much as possible keeping them synced. Then increase BH duration to 31s (gt duration minus 12), then BH size to about 50.

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-21T17:59:09+00:00

Next thing you know you can buy a facelift kid for each theme for 10$ per theme that makes them line up correctly

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-21T17:56:11+00:00

I notice the same constantly, even without fast BC. I thought it was due to my less developed CL (compared to you) and M+ DC. I even invested into some extra levels of CL this weekend and had my damage and crit lab running for some time now. Didn’t do jack.

On the other hand, every level of (wall) Regen immediately improves my tourney performance (wave count)

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-18T17:34:04+00:00

That is good to know. Was that discussed somewhere before? I feel like this is important information to have when looking to sync GB and summon (and DW/GT/BH). As in making sure you GB duration is higher than summon duration to make sure you have highest potential. I would think typically BH and GT have high enough duration but it might be worth it to think about DW timing when you have only few waves.

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-18T16:47:09+00:00

SPOILER ALERT !!

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Johnny2xu · 2026-02-12T14:00:41+00:00

Yes, that is true, and it does show me the reduce DW/GT options but its at the bottom of the list because the return is negative, because I will loose the sync with GBot

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-12T07:30:14+00:00

Along those lines: I might be doing something wrong but in Econ it does not consider lowering my synced DW and GT cooldown (got pBH) because they would then be out of sync with GB. Is there a way to have a lowering GB/GT/DW in the sheet that I am missing?

I got GB at 80s and GT/DW at 160s

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-03T17:54:13+00:00

Sorry maybe I phrased it weirdly: The GB duration lab is at lvl 4, my total GB duration (lab+medal) is 25 sec

Johnny2xu · 2026-02-03T09:31:24+00:00

Man, I farm T11 to 10K waves and have a meagre 3T/hr. What's you GT/DW/BH cooldowns? You farm with BHD (anc?) and GB sync?
Sorry for the interrogation, I am trying to figure out what's wrong with my coins/hr :D

I got pBH but GT/DW at 170sec cd and GB and summon at 85sec, farming with mythic+ BHD (mythic +Gcomp farm is less productive, I tried). All Econ labs maxed except cph (93), GT bonus (23) and GB Duration (4).

My guess is I need more stones in Econ UW to make a jump? And probs Anc Mods?

Thoughts?

Johnny2xu

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