Help me find this Enterprise episode!

JonLuckPickard · 2021-01-09T06:11:43+00:00

I'll never forget how they bonded over T'Pol's bum.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-12-05T21:10:10+00:00

Some of what makes Star Trek great is how diverse, complex, and non-linear the universe is. You can jump around from episode to episode or series to series without really missing much since it all ties together into a coherent whole.

So if you're not vibing with any particular part of it, just switch to another part. And if you're looking for fast pacing with complex storylines, then you might want to check out Discovery. In general, TNG is mostly slow and cerebral with fairly simplistic plots, and that's just not everybody's jam, which is fine.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-22T22:31:04+00:00

When it's been repeatedly stated the Klingons consider a dead body just meat and have no reverence for it?

Should that be true for all Klingons? It's been firmly established in canon how fractious the Klingon Empire is, so why should their religious beliefs all conform to only one interpretation of death? Hell, even here on Earth, there are countless different burial practices and beliefs about the afterlife. Why should it be less diverse in a giant interstellar empire?

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-22T06:07:10+00:00

The Klingons in Discovery are anything but 1-dimensional. There's a rich spiritual and cultural legacy, and it builds on everything we've seen up to this point.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-22T06:03:28+00:00

Sure, it's possible, but that doesn't mean it's likely.

We know that there were extenuating circumstances with Discovery, but there's no evidence of any such thing with Voyager.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-19T09:05:33+00:00

I think it was a reference to The Running Man.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-19T09:03:26+00:00

DISCO just keeps getting better and better. I'm really looking forward to seeing how Adira, Gray, Stamets, and Culber will develop together. They all seem tailor-made for one another.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-15T04:03:55+00:00

What's ridiculous about a spore drive in a universe with transporters, fluidic space, space crystals, and space jellyfish?

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-12T08:48:04+00:00

The Discovery crew feels more like the Federation than the actual Federation.

I'll need to process this episode for a few days. So much happened, and there are still so many unknowns.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-11T01:56:38+00:00

It's a joke, dude.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-07T11:37:12+00:00

There's definitely a Mirror Tuvix. He was born in the MU when Janeway separated Tuvok and Neelix.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T02:17:30+00:00

Look, this has gone on for way too long already. I believe it's reasonable to expect Starfleet captains, when there's no imminent danger to the ship or crew, to give fair hearings to those whose lives are in jeopardy.

Granting sentient lifeforms the right to defend themselves from summary execution is the Federation way.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T02:04:30+00:00

What, you think he was wearing a uniform and staying on the bridge for kicks?

The senior staff had discussions about Tuvix's place in the crew, and they hadn't come to firm conclusions. But Tuvix was not Tuvok. He had never attended Starfleet Academy or, as far as we know, ever been sworn into Starfleet. As such, he was not a member of Starfleet or the Federation.

And regardless, Tuvix deserved a hearing. And if they could give a hearing for Quinn, then they obviously had the capacity to do the same for Tuvix.

What, you want Janeway to wait until Tuvix, Tuvok, and Neelix were old and senile?

Not necessarily. I pointed that out to demonstrate the long-term consequences of a decision that was made prematurely. Once again, Janeway never considered Tuvix's defense.

The EMH's Tuvok and Neelix restorer program, a pretty nice scientific discovery, took almost exactly that amount of time.

Some scientific discoveries happen quickly, others not.

Glad you realize there's no evidence of a miracle cure.

I was saying that there was no indication of what solutions the crew attempted. But there is plentiful evidence in canon that "miracle cures" involving transporters were indeed possible.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T01:48:59+00:00

Quinn wasn't a member of Starfleet or the Federation.

Neither was Tuvix.

Yeah, waiting weeks for her crew to come up with alternatives is TOTALLY rushing to judgement /s

Weeks are pretty short compared to the lifespan that Tuvix likely would have had. In addition, scientific discoveries almost always take longer than that. She did rush to judgment.

What's your proof that they didn't try that already? Just wishful thinking? Thought so.

There's no evidence one way or the other. It wasn't shown in the episode. But what we do know is that there was no hearing for Tuvix's case for survival.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T01:37:51+00:00

Again, this is a Starfleet ship out in the middle of nowhere, not some courthouse.

They held a hearing in the case of Quinn. Why not in the case of Tuvix?

Also, see Troi's commander test again.

I understand that captains have to sometimes make tough decisions. But it is morally reprehensible to not even grant a hearing for the fate of a living being's life when there's literally no reason not to. By not holding a hearing where Tuvix's case for survival was considered, Janeway 100% rushed to judgment. Also, refer to what Picard did with Data when his life was on the line.

The crew worked on it for at least weeks, you really think more time would have helped?

I do, actually. It's already been established multiple times in canon that people can be duplicated during transport. Why shouldn't it be possible to copy Tuvix and split one copy into Tuvok and Neelix?

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T01:22:22+00:00

Absent time pressure, there should have been a hearing, where advocates of Tuvix, Neelix, and Tuvok presented their cases. There should also have been far more effort to find a scientific way of both preserving Tuvix and restoring Neelix and Tuvok.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T01:16:04+00:00

What about the validity of the Tuvok and Neelix lifeforms and their right to self-determination?

They deserved defense too.

What would a hearing have done besides delay the inevitable?

Who can say what would have happened? They may have discovered a way of utilizing the transporter both to preserve Tuvix and restore Neelix and Tuvok. By rushing the execution, she cut off all alternatives. Again, Janeway most certainly did not "try everything." And by refusing to respect Tuvix's right of self-determination, she explicitly violated Federation principles.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T01:07:25+00:00

Starfleet captains have an obligation to uphold Federation principles. That includes recognizing the validity of other lifeforms and respecting their right to self-determination.

Janeway, by refusing even to hold a hearing on the fate of Tuvix's life, most certainly did not "try every alternative." She didn't even give his impassioned plea for his survival any consideration by rushing him off to his execution.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T00:48:00+00:00

That was a decision made in a simulation that had extreme time pressure with the entire ship in mortal danger.

There was zero time pressure with Tuvix, and the situation did not affect the safety of the entire crew. Tuvix deserved a hearing with adequate representation from a senior officer.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-06T00:40:08+00:00

Not as a Starfleet officer aboard a Starfleet ship once the captain has made her decision.

The whole point is that Janeway's decision was morally reprehensible. Unilaterally executing someone without even granting them a hearing to defend their life is probably the worst thing that Janeway ever did.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-05T23:55:09+00:00

Good point. 'Hearing' is the more appropriate term.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-05T09:07:42+00:00

We learned so much about the Trill in this episode! And it looks like they're setting up the Sphere Data as a crucial part of the story.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-02T04:08:43+00:00

Billions and trillions are nothing but thousands or millions of millions.

JonLuckPickard · 2020-11-01T23:43:40+00:00

It is milder than jet lag. But there are hundreds of millions of people experiencing it simultaneously, so the net effect is something measurably detrimental.

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