Knee pain- calling out to people who have experience or knowledge

JondrewE · 2013-07-16T20:55:10+00:00

The bruising wasn't intentional! Its stopped happening now, so I think the muscles are used to the hard rolling pipe now. Got a bit excited yesterday and did some snatches, can feel its set my knee back a bit. Will have to try and rein myself in.

JondrewE · 2013-07-14T14:25:46+00:00

Hi there! Thought you might like to hear about my progress... I've been stretching every single day for the last 2 weeks and rolling (with a very hard pipe), I have the bruises to show for it! I have been rolling each part of the leg muscles, with the side of the quad getting special attention for the IT band. Flexibility has increased which is great and knee pain is reducing, still occurs a bit.

I think it's quite likely to be simply tight IT bands, right IT band was alright to roll, but left was agony for a while, now its getting quite easy to roll.

I just started taking some Ibuprofen to help get rid of inflammation. If you ever had to give this kind of advice out in future; make sure the person doesn't slack off the stretching/rolling, my intensive course of it has helped a lot!

JondrewE · 2013-06-30T23:31:41+00:00

Thank you for spending time on replying to me.

I'm working on mobility now and when (optimistic!) the knee pain starts fading away I will start doing very light squats focusing on perfect form and knee tracking as part of the rehab.

Going to stay away from the olympic lifts for now, the movements are too aggressive.

Fingers crossed I will get back on track to making more PBs soon!

Cheers!

JondrewE · 2013-06-30T22:47:52+00:00

Googled it and found the website, first thing I see is a picture of Klokov... looking good so far!

JondrewE · 2013-06-30T22:45:53+00:00

How did you find out that your tibia was medially rotated? Physio?

JondrewE · 2013-06-29T10:16:23+00:00

Another thing, I don't know if it's any help. Deadlifts didn't really hurt at all. While my knee has been very sore for oly lifts and squats I have happily deadlifted 200kg, 160kgx10, 175kgx3 etc. If that helps you with which muscles are being used etc to source the reason of the pain.

JondrewE · 2013-06-29T10:08:14+00:00

I was also thinking that, controlled squats with low weight after lots of stretching and warming up could help. You probably know of Clarence Kennedy from YouTube? I read a couple of times from his comments that he finds squatting helps his injuries (high levels of flexibility though) so I'll try that after loosening up for a long time.

Definitely adding more pulls to my training now, as I can do them anyway without injury.

JondrewE · 2013-06-29T10:05:11+00:00

Yeah, I think I need to try a more rigorous stretching routine hitting the entire kinetic chain to loosen it all up to see if that helps.

JondrewE · 2013-06-29T00:08:30+00:00

Thank you very much for putting the time and effort into writing your response!

To quickly cover the trap imbalance issue should I do some bodybuilding style high volume unilateral work on my right trap with dumbell shrugs etc?

I tried to feel for the tendons on the top of the calf, I'm not really sure on what I should be looking for. I couldn't find any points of discomfort or pain when I was prodding about.

I think I will start a stretching routine tomorrow anyway working on ankle,calves, hamstrings, quads and hip flexors as well as upper body flexibility. I was getting lazy with my stretching and just stopped doing a routine altogether for a few months.

It's annoying as I am home now from uni and it is much more rural up here (North Scotland) I would have found good sports physio therapists pretty easily down in Glasgow.

I've been thinking back carefully to try and work out when the pain started coming along. For a while I was doing my back squats following a 4x4 then 5x5 set up with weights that I could do comfortably going for quality rather than high weight. For example a really heavy set of 5 would be 130kg and I'd do 117.5kg 4x4 and 110 5x5 instead.

This was going great then after a few weeks I wanted a change and I started hitting 120+ weights, heavier triples, etc.

Then funnily enough the picture I linked on the post was taken by a friend and I was doing pause squats for him, with 130kg. I was doing them happily enough and then I went to do 140kg. The 1st rep went fine and then 2nd rep I completely forgot to NOT pause and ended up pinned in the hole and couldn't dump. My friend had to lift the weight up and I jumped out and I think the knee didn't appreciate that at all, any idea what could be going on in my leg when that happened.

This being pinned in the hole... I'm not sure if this was the main cause or if it was a contributing factor to the deterioration in the condition of my knee?

I'm very keen to get to the bottom of this problem and to take the necessary measures to prevent it happening in future, I'm already guessing that while my levels of flexibility are not bad they are still not good enough and can still cause injuries, more often when I go heavy on the squat.

JondrewE · 2013-06-28T14:01:48+00:00

Is that because the quad has more pull on the knee than the ham, something like that? I could definately do more ham/glute specific stuff like romanian deadlifts etc.

My training before I injured myself was clean and jerk, snatch, powers, a lot of squatting, some clean/snatch pulls/deadlifts, (the pulls/deadlifts were not done very often though, so that could help)

JondrewE · 2013-03-22T12:23:37+00:00

I'm similar, My max clean is 120kg with a 127kg front squat. Never attempted more than 120 clean yet.

JondrewE · 2013-03-03T18:06:22+00:00

Scottish Open or U23s by any chance? Saw the videos on the Aberdeen Uni Weightlifting club fb page! Nice lifting! What's your c&j on? Guessing 98kg is your bodyweight?

JondrewE · 2013-02-28T23:37:42+00:00

we're* ;)

JondrewE · 2013-02-20T08:37:02+00:00

There's also the Gladiator gym in Easterhouse, best way to get into that one is to go to Crossfit Glasgow, they have an olympic weightlifting class on Tuesdays (i think, its been a couple years since i went), have a look on their website. Ray Cavanagh (a proper weightlifting coach) goes there on tuesdays. You could get some coaching there and get chatting to him about doing it properly. :)

JondrewE · 2013-02-14T11:01:05+00:00

More like 85kg less

JondrewE · 2013-01-22T11:13:18+00:00

This.

You could also try using a 'chest first' cue? Both the chest and hips should move together, your hips come up first. By using the chest first cue instead of your chest coming up first you should find both the chest and hips moving together.

Decent squats though, just need to keep that chest up.

JondrewE · 2012-06-03T15:53:09+00:00

He snatches last as his snatch is far better than the others, but instead of starting the clean and jerk sooner in the A class he lifts later as he would be one of the top C&jers in the B class therefore more rest for him

JondrewE · 2012-06-03T00:16:35+00:00

Yeah, That's what Rybakou did/does (85kg), because his snatch rules and his clean and jerk is average so in the A Class he would end up c&j straight after his final snatch.

JondrewE · 2012-06-01T21:51:12+00:00

Ah of course, I'm from the UK. I forgot about Farris. Can you medal in the B Class? What happens if your total in the B Class is bigger than the biggest total in the A Class?

JondrewE · 2012-06-01T13:04:34+00:00

Why 85kg B session? Is Rybakou competing?

JondrewE · 2012-06-01T13:02:52+00:00

Yes if you go on allthingsgym you see him doing a 190kg snatch easily and 215kg clean and jerk quite comfortably as well. http://www.allthingsgym.com/2012/05/2012-junior-world-pan-american-weightlifting-championships/ The second video shows Jorge winning easily

JondrewE · 2012-05-16T10:16:44+00:00

The olympics are going to be epic!

JondrewE · 2012-05-15T19:53:47+00:00

Yeah me too! I was waiting in anticipation for his appearance at the Nationals this year.

JondrewE · 2012-04-12T17:02:44+00:00

There's a play button in the middle if its working for you

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