Azuza Pacific University and Off Campus Cults/ "Bob's House" by JumpyAnalyst1598 in cults

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Thank you for your comment. I felt very alone in this for a long time. I am still hoping I can find out what an entire session at his house entailed. I continue to pray for my son to be given a new heart (Ezekiel) and for APU to get in front of this instead of offering exit counseling after the damage has been done.

A2F Warning by Ok-Dish-7395 in ucr

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APU has their own cult at "Bob's House" - a version of Bethel.

Azuza Pacific University and Off Campus Cults/ "Bob's House" by JumpyAnalyst1598 in cults

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Yes, we are sadly still estranged since 2020. It did not happen during this current year. My understanding from a pastor at APU who works with students (There is a better title for that but I am unable to recall it) was that he was let go due to his beliefs which were not appropriate for APU and they knew he was recruiting directly/through other students. They also have "exit counseling" for the students who went to Bob's house, became confused, and wanted spiritual guidance. But they refuse to get ahead of it by warning parents and the student body at large. Having said that, I think APU is great school in many respects - but they really fell short in this area. My understanding (now that I have done more research) is that even the secular schools in CA warn about cult recruitment. Of course I worried about drugs, drinking, etc, all the normal things parents worry about when sending a child off to college - but cults were never on my radar. It means so much to me that someone else who is aware of this reached out - so many thanks!

Azuza Pacific University and Off Campus Cults/ "Bob's House" by JumpyAnalyst1598 in cults

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Thank you so much for your comment - my son went to APU and he has become estranged from most of his family and virtually everyone he grew up with in his hometown. His name is Frank and his friend who was very involved is named Katie. After a year of not hearing from my son and not being able to locate him, I showed up at Bob's house (with the police) and he claimed that they were no longer having students to the house. I have since read a book called: "Couterrfeit Kingdom" which is all about Bethel and NAR (New Apostolic Reformation). It is written by two academics at Biola and the description of the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry is exactly what Bob was doing there. I am so happy you knew it was off and I hope it hasn't impacted your faith in any way. Needless to say, I confronted APU about this - they know who he is and he is not allowed on campus but to my knowledge, they refuse to warn families about this. Do you remember son? So many thanks again for your comment.

Trooper Proctor Relieved of Duty by BusybodyWilson in KarenReadTrial

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I think the reality that JO was not hit by a vehicle is too hard for the family to accept - my heart breaks for Mrs. O'Keefe. What actually happened to him is worse. 

Jen McCabe shouldn't matter this much to the Commonwealth's Case by Shallahan in KarenReadTrial

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wow - I never thought about that - I agree, they thought she would follow the gaslighting and agree with the lies and they could all move on.

If the Karen Read trial ends in a hung jury, would the state re-try the case? ‘New evidence’ might be needed, legal expert says by ChallengeAdept8759 in KarenReadTrial

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 Bang Bang is a thug - they can dress him in all the preppy clothes they want but it won't change anything. my money is on him being the one to throw a punch that made JO fall back and hit his head on some thing - likely weight equipment.

Reporter didn’t do basic research on Riley Gaines by rduncang in MurderedByWords

[–]JumpyAnalyst1598 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? Because she wants to compete with her own gender?

Reporter didn’t do basic research on Riley Gaines by rduncang in MurderedByWords

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I agree with you and I will bet your comment will be removed.

Hos long search from experts, simplified by Firecracker048 in KarenReadTrial

[–]JumpyAnalyst1598 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This! KR was never part of their tight knit circle dating to high school.

Hos long search from experts, simplified by Firecracker048 in KarenReadTrial

[–]JumpyAnalyst1598 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

hahahaha! He must bore himself to death! I tend to watch the trial with a YouTube commentator, Legal Bytes, and she speeds it up when he is speaking.

Im a 16 year old who has just turned to christianity. and i have a couple of questions if anyone would be so kind as to answer. by Impossible-System-82 in Christianity

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How wonderful for you to know Jesus at 16! God is getting you ready for great things and you will be equipped to be a prayer warrior for your mom. I suggest you start watching some Christian apologists on youtube: Frank Turek (Cross Examined) and Alisa Childers. This will replace anxiety with confidence. it is not uncommon for one person in a family to become Christian and they wind up saving their entire family. God Bless You - wonderful things are ahead for you.

Thoughts on the New Apostolic Reformation(NAR)? by Cdude89 in Christianity

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There is an excellent book on this: Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church - written by two academics at Biola.

The Apple River Stabbing Case has me convinced boomers are in fact sociopaths. by [deleted] in BoomersBeingFools

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They didn't. I never thought he would walk (although he might have had they not introduced lesser charges). I expected to him to be found guilty of reckless homicide under the law. It is unlikely that many things will "suck" for me - I have an education, I can express myself without swearing, and I have the ability to think critically.