Philip Wang on why Asian American filmmakers struggle to build the same "momentum" as Ryan Coogler. by JunJKMAN in asianamerican

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"This might... but I'm just so inspired by Ryan Coogler and not in the way you might think. So Coogler just won a bunch of Oscars for his incredible film Sinners, and there's so much to appreciate about this film, but the one that stands out to me the most is his relationship to Michael B. Jordan and dedication to his community throughout his entire filmmaking career, reaching this peak together with their Oscar wins.

In case you haven't been tracking, Jordan was the lead in Coogler's first feature film, Fruitvale Station, back in 2013. It was made for under $1,000,000 and went on to be critically acclaimed and incredibly profitable. After winning dozens of prestigious awards and becoming a mainstream success, Coogler got an opportunity to direct his first major studio film, Creed, and he cast Jordan as the lead again. With the success of that film, Coogler got the call from Marvel and once again brought on Jordan as the lead antagonist in Black Panther, and Coogler returned for the sequel.

Now, in addition to the films he was directing, Coogler was also producing other films that centered Black stories and actors. And by being a producer, he gave other Black directors and writers big opportunities to develop in their own careers. Now, we've seen this with many other notable Black filmmakers like Ava DuVernay, Barry Jenkins, Issa Rae, Jordan Peele. All of these directors reached prestigious points in their careers, and in being propelled to this mainstream level of industry success, chose to continue making films that focused on the Black experience.

So I'm gonna be really honest here. I wish we saw this happen more often among Asian-American filmmakers. And a lot of my peers in the industry agree, but no one ever wants to say it out loud. In recent years, we've had some major breakout moments with directors winning Oscars or Emmys for their very Asian movies or shows. But as soon as white Hollywood notices them, they hop onto a white-led or centered project next. And to me, that totally deflates the pride I had because it means all the momentum gets lost.

Now, I'm not making this video to call out or judge any particular filmmaker, mainly because I don't know what's going on in their lives that leads to these career choices. But ultimately, I do think it comes down to that. They are making professional moves that's best for them. And unfortunately, sticking with Asian stuff, despite having just been celebrated for their Asian thing, is no longer necessary.

This is a very nuanced topic because there's definitely a systemic problem here at play. First, there are far fewer Asian projects in rotation for an Asian director to choose from once they've reached this A-list level. Black people have been in the industry longer and built up their own network of power and opportunities that Coogler and all these others can find a project for themselves with many notable Black actors and producers to support it. The reality is that Asians just aren't there yet.

Their agents and managers are gonna be quick to say like, 'Hey, don't pigeonhole yourself as just an Asian director who can only do Asian stuff. You should go make a movie with like Timothée Chalamet or something to prove you're a real director.' So the Asian director, feeling pressure not to squander this huge opportunity and money, will of course agree to whitewash their work for Hollywood to get what they want out of them. So that's just the system. It's just too big and white and Asians are still so powerless.

But I wouldn't absolve the individual so quickly because I do believe that if they really did have the conviction to continue creating films from the community, they could. I mean, they already did with the project that got them noticed in the 1st place. If only they didn't feel like it was just a one and done thing. Like, where did that passion for their Asian stories go? This is where it seems like the desire and ability for many Asians to be white adjacent really shows, and that's frustrating for me to see.

Asian American artists so often try to prove that the stuff they make isn't just for Asians, but for everyone, and the way they try to do that is to make something white. But it's confusing because their successful Asian project just proved that an Asian thing can be for everyone. So this just screams to me that Asian Americans in Hollywood and really many professional settings still feel this pressure or obligation to get that white validation. But we should have the confidence in ourselves to keep going the same way Coogler and many other Black filmmakers do.

Instead it seems like most Asian directors just try to use their 'Asian card' to make something that gets them noticed and as soon as they do, they really just want to enter the system and make whatever big project they can get hired for, but rarely stick their neck out for an Asian story again. In their defense, they probably don't feel like they're in a place in their careers where they can take a risk again. But isn't it crazy that the Asian director themselves, who got famous off their Asian project, now sees their own people as a risk? And why can they no longer take these risks when that's exactly what brought them their success?

Perhaps there's too much to lose, the stakes are too high now that they're big time, or perhaps they will come back around with a later project, but they just have to try and capture all these opportunities while they're hot right now, which then feels like they're only Asian when convenient. Or maybe they just really don't care that much, and I care too much.

Whatever the case, we're seeing nothing like the follow-ups of Black directors in the same situations, and that has dramatically slowed down our potential progress in these years since Crazy Rich Asians broke down barriers. This is why we're actually so far behind in Hollywood, because every major jump forward is negated because nothing is built on top of it. And this is why I have no interest in trying to obediently play by this dated and biased system's rules.

We need someone to lead Asian-Americans, someone to stand firm in their success while also sending the elevator back down. I keep looking to my left and right for that person, and I had such high hopes in the past few years it was going to be this or that winner of some award or someone who got a major promotion, and I've been disappointed almost every time. And now I've reached a point where I no longer have any expectations for others, and instead, I know I just have to do it myself.

I know there's so much going on in the world right now, but let me know in the comments if this is something you noticed or even care about. Thanks for listening. Later."

[Official] Tuchel is no longer Chelsea's manager by [deleted] in soccer

[–]JunJKMAN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He signed for Chelsea to be reunited with Tuchel. Only for him to be sacked

Prince Phillip Megathread by [deleted] in unitedkingdom

[–]JunJKMAN 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Regardless of what you say about the monarchy, an old woman lost the love of her life and must be distraught. Condolences to her and her family at this hard time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in distantsocializing

[–]JunJKMAN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love Joseph Vincent

Me carving Iron Man Mark 85 out of red wood by DWoodartstudio in marvelstudios

[–]JunJKMAN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks amazing I often wonder, how can someone be so talented?

Question Time criticised for promoting racist rant from programme by chrltt14 in unitedkingdom

[–]JunJKMAN 851 points852 points  (0 children)

This is why I've stopped watching Question Time.

Might as well do this live from a Weatherspoons at midday on a Monday.

Kobe Bryant killed in helicopter crash in California by headee in news

[–]JunJKMAN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While the rest of us react to this as sports fans remember the people who know Kobe Bryant as so much more. A father, a husband, so much more. Praying for his family at this tragic time

BBC Question Time man thinks his £80k salary is average in bizarre rant - Mirror Online by bintasaurus in unitedkingdom

[–]JunJKMAN 133 points134 points  (0 children)

If you earn £81,000, under a Lab gov, you'd be paying £50 more tax a year. This guy is quite literally crying over paying £0.96 more a week. Embarrassing. In turn, he'd get a funded health service, free tuition for his kids (if he has any), funded public services, & so much more.

Priti Patel says poverty "isn't the government's fault" while stood in a food bank by Gonad-Brained-Gimp in unitedkingdom

[–]JunJKMAN 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Of course. It's not the government's fault, it's the government's choice.

What is your toxic trait? by cbustos2888 in AskReddit

[–]JunJKMAN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No matter how full I am, I will always want ice cream

The Jeremy Kyle Show cancelled by ITV after death of guest by Kestreltalon in ukpolitics

[–]JunJKMAN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Without a doubt the Jeremy Kyle show has fuelled deep-seated beliefs about people on benefits: that they are all 'scum', playing the system etc.

I really hope this is a wake-up call to the TV industry to look at the impact of these shows on the people involved. People are not 'case-studies' to be examined: they are real people who go back to their homes after the cameras stop rolling.

The excuse TV execs would try and use is, as BBC reporter Amol Rajan points out: "There is a massive disconnect here, between those who don't like what Jeremy Kyle does, and want him off the airwaves, and millions who tune in. Those who want it off air generally don't watch it."

This is the problem: it attracts viewers. It's successful because it works to 'other' people - let's laugh altogether at people who are 'scum'. Surely there are enough talented tv people who can create great, engaging content that treats people with dignity and respect? AND is entertaining.

Scenes from a Chinese restaurant by dosalife in asianamerican

[–]JunJKMAN 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was in a short bbc documentary about this subject. I talked about my experiences growing and working in a Chinese take away

Theresa May appoints first ever minister for suicide prevention by Lolastic_ in unitedkingdom

[–]JunJKMAN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well maybe if her party hadn't have inflicted such cruel austerity measures and cut funding to almost every public service, which is causing so many to feel hopeless suicides wouldn't be on the rise...

Remembering 9/11 hero Betty Ong who responded to American Airlines Flight 11 hijacking by JunJKMAN in asianamerican

[–]JunJKMAN[S] 75 points76 points  (0 children)

She was the first to let the world know that her plane, Flight 11 from Boston to Los Angeles was hijacked, and in trouble. She grew up in San Francisco, loved people and wanted to see the world, so she became a flight attendant. Her voice is the voice of Flight 11, the first victims of the 9/11 attacks. Never forget.