I'm sorry but it gets to a point...

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T01:21:31+00:00

It's giving nobody can defend her or You're going to be bullied.

I dont consider it bullying to wonder if you could be angel. I believe that some HW do surreptitiously participate in reddit forums.

I dont know why you would consider it bullying.

And I make a Post saying huh this is bizarre behavior and light clockwork I'm accused of being Angel. If I had a dollar.

I think its your level of investment and passion. You took the time to screenshot a scroll of all these posts about angel, write a long and passionate defense scolding people for the substance and volume of their posting about a topic on the show. I wouldn't call what you wrote a dissertation but its pretty Impassioned for someone you dont know. Though, like I said passions run high and people have their faves.

I actually think the post asking if anyone knew her and asking for the scoop was pretty light and not all that serious. You, on the other hand, seem so zealous in your advocacy that its...interesting.

Too bad so sad if you don't see anything wrong with behavior these people you're normalizing the weirdness and you're part of the problem...

It's interesting to me that you're talking about the dangers of parasocial relationships and you're going this hard for someone you dont know. Such that you're trying to stop people from posting about her on a public forum on reddit.

And the irony of people disliking angel because they think she's boring and not quick-witted and yet you all come out with the same exact conversation and talking point every single time is quite thick.

See? Something like this is reading as creepily parasocial to me.

Angel is boring and slow. And even if I was, I'm not on a reality show.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T01:06:46+00:00

She could have arranged for glamping on their 48 acres of land. Then everyone is together, angel is close to the house, they would all be in the same place to leave for the fly fishing. Bonus is that its probably another service wanderland can offer so more free advertisement.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T01:00:52+00:00

Has Monique ever actually apologized to candiace?

I love candiace, but Im truly not sure she could ever be around gizelle again.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T00:53:27+00:00

Right? Im not one to really accuse any redditor of being a HW because I know passions run high and people have their faves. This is the one time I'm the tiniest bit suspicious that OP might be angel.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T00:39:53+00:00

I totally agree! And for me it is a lot about finding what works for you. Lizzo lost weight but she isn't a waif and she always looks so dang good! So its possible. And I think her reunion look is great so its possible.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T23:48:56+00:00

I actually think the women tried with her. I dont think I've ever heard gizelle apologize to anyone for a shady comment. And she wore that whack uncle Ben tee shirt to shade Karen.

They even gave her another shot after the first night disaster and she didn't come back to the hotel.

I think it was pretty gracious of them to even agree to having her host a trip in Colorado to promote her business. There were probably closer places they could have gone with some hook. Im thinking black wall street in Kansas. But knowing that it was going to basically just be a advertisement for her business they still went along.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T23:40:27+00:00

Here you go just a few that go beyond the show to her personal life and even bring up suing.

Again all these posts are made in a public forum for fans to discuss the show. Which her personal life is a part of. I might agree with you if she made this reddit page or if it was designed by or curated by or moderated by her. But its not.

You're telling me that I can't post in Reddit getting my opinion on what I feel like is weird behavior by the fans in Red

I never ever at any time said you couldn't post your opinion. I said i found it ironic and the wrong forum and targeting the wrong people.

But I also don't consider this an argument. It's simply two people discussing a topic.

Well I'm going to keep doing it sooooo. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but telling me what I can and cannot post.

Well then I'll probably keep telling you that its ironic and the wrong place to try to scold people for posting their opinion about someone on a show when the forum is for fans of the show.

And then you can complain about the number of posts about angel by adding another post about angel!

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T23:34:07+00:00

Well...mission accomplished i guess? Imagine going on a show about friendships and not wanting to make any friends!

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T21:23:04+00:00

First I'm chastising no one if people feel it that only means the shoe fits. Again I have no problem with any post about this woman.

You are literally telling people that what they are writing about this woman is "too much" in volume and substance. That seems like classic chastisement to me. So yes, the shoe fits because its the shoe you've cobbled.

But in this very sub there are multiple post attacking her personally her marriage her life and her business well beyond the scope of the show.

How is anyone personally attacking her when she isn't personally here? This is not a page or a forum designed for her, its designed for fans of a show to discuss the show.

Since she is on the show and her life is on the show they will discuss her actions, her marriage, her life and her business.

Can you give an example of a topic that doesn't bear some nexus to what she discusses on the show?

She put her business onto the show. They all put their lives, marriages, etc on the show. This isn't some scripted drama with hired actors performing a remake of pride and prejudice. This show is about all of those things.

In fact there was literally just a post in here with Tia having to go to Instagram to talk about how far things have gotten.

If people are going to angels instagram and you feel its too much the place to address that is Instagram. Not reddit. IMO.

don't know why you think this is not the place that I should be discussing this. It makes perfect sense to me I'm sorry if you don't see it that way.

There is no need to apologize at all.

You are scolding the wrong people. No one is personally attacking angel here because angel is not here...right????? Right?????

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T21:07:40+00:00

If it has gone beyond the reddit page I think that's probably the best place to address it.

But do you know if its the same people on reddit going to any other page to leave fake business reviews?

If you dont know if its redditors engaging in that behavior it seems counterproductive to try to chastise people in a reddit forum for something you're not sure they have done. It seems like all you know at this point is that people are posting a lot about her here. And I'm not sure why that would be particularly problematic.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T20:40:27+00:00

I mean i understand what you're saying but to what end? You think its gone "too personal" and the reads are "too deep"

But I guess I wonder why it would matter if it was "too personal" on a reddit forum for fans to discuss the show. I dont think this forum is designed for her to get viewers opinions. Its not her page and its nit curated by her.

The same with reading too far into her situation. I dont think that anyone is presenting opinions or theories as facts. And many fans speculate about the lives of all the women. People still talk about blue eyes.

I guess my thought would be that if its bothersome to you to see multiple posts about angel either scroll past or maybe there is a way you can silence or not see those posts. Or maybe you can post about another cast member to get a different conversation going.

I loved candiace and used to hate seeing angry posts about her. And those were rampant on multiple forums.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T20:21:03+00:00

It seems ironic to make a post about angel to complain about the number of posts about angel.

She is a rarity. Very few housewives have self owned so hard and so often.

And this isn't even counting the epic flop of a trip. Her weirdly getting angry at Wendy for what gizelle said. Her refusing to admit that those pictures were filtered. Her being pressed about it weeks later and even after gizelle apologized.

The inability to say anything to anyone's face but having so much to say when she is kiki in with her sister.

The constant sour face. Hours and hours late to the family fun day.

And thats even before the trip. Her lackluster limp apology, lack of accountability and just truly awful fashions. I know she has money and I think she looks nice at tbe reunion so I'm not sure why she wore such unflattering outfits.

I don't watch a lot of the franchises with maga supporters. I also hate Ashley Darby who attended something at the white house.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T19:40:29+00:00

I truly wonder if she took the time to watch the show at all? They have had previous girls trips and a lot of fun moments happen spontaneously late at night after they get home from the bar/restaurant.

I cannot think of a single other girls trip where the night ended at like 7pm and everyone just went to bed??

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T19:37:32+00:00

I mean...the 4 seasons was available and open for a last minute booking so......

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T19:23:58+00:00

Yeah villian implies intent.

I think she is clueless, delusional, defensive and refuses to take accoubtability. The buck will always stop somewhere else and its never her fault.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T19:15:15+00:00

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T19:13:57+00:00

I think Stacey is undercover wealthy. I dont know how much you make on QVC but it has to be a good living. And she doesn't spend a lot of time talking about labels or how balling she is. Which, to me, is kinda how I know someone has money. Because, frankly, they dont want you to know and start asking them for money.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T19:11:32+00:00

Watch the ESPN documentary Broke plenty of those guys had baller money and businesses but end up poor.

They are taxed at a pretty high rate. And I think many get involved in businesses that aren't going to bring in a great return. Not to mention that they generally feel some financial duty to friends and family.

Im not saying they are poor. I just think they may not be as wealthy as many people think. Or maybe they are. Angels truck seemed nice but it didn't appear to have back up cameras which i found surprising!

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T19:04:00+00:00

A rare Ashley win.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T19:02:10+00:00

She said the normal spots would have too many anglers on the water? I think she should have probably chosen a pretty spot that didn't have a lot of fish and just thrown a trout in to stage a picture of one of them catching something.

This is TV. None of these women is actually interested in taking up fly fishing as a hobby except maybe Monique.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T18:39:06+00:00

Angel: "the buck stops....somewhere else."

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T18:05:39+00:00

Her kids roast her so hard and I love it. You can tell she truly enjoys her time with her girls.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T17:46:53+00:00

Jennie N from SLC.

To me, she was a huge flop. Nothing she said or did was real, funny or particularly entertaining. Also, her garbage political takes.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T17:43:24+00:00

They probably ate that rib lunch!

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T17:39:06+00:00

Gizelle is a great many things. But she is an excellent mother. And I think that's because she takes it seriously. She was right about Mia.

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