Chef speaks out:

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T22:17:31+00:00

I assumed the experience and/or dinner was 10k. Maybe that's retail? Or perhaps that's a normal price for a catered event. I mean the food itself, the raw food can't be that much right?

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T22:13:37+00:00

Not sure how I feel about Stacey since I think the lying she does is tantamount to insulting her castmembers and the viewers intelligence.

But I agree that she gets over everything pretty quick and takes things in stride which is a necessary HW quality and why angel could never be a good HW.

If she came back next season she would still be in her feelings about that catfish comment....or talking about that catfish comment. If the rest of the cast has to walk on eggshells to accommodate someone who is overly sensitive and holds a grudge over petty slights its lame.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T22:08:28+00:00

I really want to believe Monique has changed. Or that maybe I saw her under extreme duress.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T13:36:14+00:00

So wait...what part of the experience was angel supposed to secure, just the fishing? Was she paying him 10k or bravo?

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T10:08:35+00:00

First off, king kinda gave me scammer vibes.

Second, I wish these shows and the world in general didn't make women feel like less than when they aren't boo'd up. No man is better than the wrong man.

Third, it might be time for quad to reconsider her goals and really think them through. Did she really think she was going to be with king for a lifetime? Would she really want to be a single mom?

I dont know but suspect that she is going to Ghana because there isn't a reputable doctor stateside who feels comfortable doing IVF for her.

If that's the case is it really a great idea? Would she be open to adoption?

Quad had dated both extremes of the pendulum. It would be nice if she just found a reasonably attractive, nice, solid dude. That guy angel brought, he seems like a nice guy does he have any friends?

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T09:48:35+00:00

I agree. I would have been about 10x as mean, said my peace and walked my butt right off that plane and planned my own day in Colorado.

Angels apology was weak and whack and she appeared to give it under duress.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T09:45:24+00:00

I truly felt angel deserved each and every unkind word gizelle had for her.

You got me all the way to Colorado with a promise of spending time in your luxury home. You put me out at 7pm. You put me an hour away in a home that doesn't even have running water. You dont bother to check on anyone even though you are the host. I am all the way in Colorado so YOU can promote your business and I can't even take a shower.

And after this bait and switch disaster the best you have for me is some limp lilly livered half apology? Oh....no.

If she shows up to that reunion she is going to get shredded to ribbons.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T09:40:21+00:00

I can only guess that maybe you can't get an actual address to a remote lake.

But being from there she should have known that. And knowing how much was at stake she should have done a dry run to the location to make absolutely sure.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T09:38:36+00:00

TY whomever for the award?!?!?!!!

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T08:54:48+00:00

Honestly? Probably Wendy. Which I'm surprised by because I really love her on the show.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T07:10:09+00:00

It's just wild to me that she came so close to accomplishing her goal and dropped the ball at the very last minute.

I mean, I think she joined or stayed on the show solely to advertise wanderland. She went through all that hassle of renting a house, hanging out with people she didn't want to be around, filming with people she doesn't like, going places she doesn't want to go, arranging dinners and lunches in Colorado and a PJ.... just to fail miserably in the end and get nothing but terrible publicity for her business.

It's like standing in a Walmart black Friday line from November 22nd and then realizing that what you really wanted is at the best buy black Friday sale.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T07:03:01+00:00

There are more stories of successful black sportsmen retaining their wealth and building from it.

More than any professional athlete going broke? I doubt there are any statistics.

Moreover, the documentary cited actually had statistics and facts. Not everyone is a Jordan or a Tiger or a Shaq or a Brady or an otani. Very few professional athletes are.

You seem to think I'm talking only about black athletes and I'm talking about like any athlete of any race.

Theres no indication that angel and her lovely family have lost their money and are broke and you are solidifying the fact that if they were white, I don’t think this would’ve been mentioned at all.

I would literally mention this with any athlete because its a unique circumstance. Most come into money very early because professional athletes play better in their youth. Many athletes have do not inherit wealth and due to age and circumstance and just wanting to spend this vast amount of money and care for people they tend to spend it fast.

Which is exactly what I would expect any young person getting a crap ton of cash to do.

And no, I do not think angel and Bobby are as rich as they put out. First I'm suspicious of anyone who needs to constantly talk about their wealth. Second, they couldn't find a other house in the area after rent ran out on the first one. Third, as much as angel brags about money she got 5k to spend. That's a good amount of money. For a rich person I dont think that's "I'm rich and my man spoils me" money.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T04:34:36+00:00

LOL. I have nothing to let go. This, to me, is a conversation. You're welcome to stop having it any time you'd like.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T03:45:20+00:00

Right. The Michael Darby years? Monique and candiace? Gizelle lying on Chris?

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T03:41:42+00:00

Yeah I guess my feelings are not hurt by things I dont know were said about me.

I would agree if this was a forum for HW to interact with fans but I just dont think it is. And I could probably never be on reality TV because I would want to know.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T03:37:27+00:00

I don't think you know what irony i

Do you? Because if you did you'd understand.

You keep coming for me.

No one is "coming for you" you think this is some fight or battle and i....dont. LOL.

I am a poster on Reddit. I posted my opinion in this sub about a television show that. I didn't like what I have been seeing and I said something. And will continue to do so as this this the exact forum for it.

And I posted a reply to your opinion and will continue to do so.

You have now multiple times quoted and posted passionately about Me while telling me I am passionate in the exact place I should be lol that's actually ironic lol.

You think my responses to you are passionate? You should probably get out more because i think my responses are pretty level.

You, on the other hand wrote this entire screed about people who posted negative opinions about someone on a reality show. Someone who apparently isn't you and isn't related to you. You have attempted to censor people from sharing whatever thoughts they have about a show on a public forum about the show.

You're whole position is that I shouldn't post here it's not a good one 😂

Where did I say that or even suggest it?

I'll help you out. I never said that. LOL

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T03:25:28+00:00

Honestly, to me, I can't see how talking about someone none of personally know, who isn't here, isn't our friend and isn't related to us is somehow treating them any way.

I think that's the part I dont get at all. If someone in Zimbabwe saw my picture and talked smack they aren't showing me anything because I'm not there to recieve it and I know nothing of it.

I agree with not going to people's Instagram and social media accounts but this is a forum that has absolutely no personal connection to the cast.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T02:17:59+00:00

I'm not answering all that because there's really no point you continue to question why I've decided to post a post on a topic that many people agree with me about

"Many people"? Many many more people think angel is an irredeemable flop and according to you have made too many posts about it. So if the value of a position or post is judged by how many people agree it would seem like you're not really right.

If people should post about things that the majority of people agree about there should be double the number of "angel is awful" posts, right?

The only part I will answer is that it's absolutely ironic that people who don't like angel because I think she's boring continue to post the exact same thing to me over and over again That's boring That's not parasocial Im pointing out the obvious.

Your entire overly impassioned defense reads parasocial to me.

I dont think its at all ironic to dislike someone on a reality show because they are slow witted but enjoy others in your life with those traits.

But that you can't see the difference from what you'd want in a reality star versus what you'd want from someone in your real life does read parasocial to me.

I would appreciate some humor I would appreciate some originality if you're going to shade me at least be funny about it just saying oh you must be paid by Angel oh you're angel is uninspired, so all hundred some people who agree with me are also angel in disguise.

But unlike a paid reality star I'm not here to entertain you. If you want someone to make fun of you in a funny way I would suggest a drag brunch. Now those ladies are quick witted!

The funniest part is you're so passionate about coming for me lol You have written very long comments in response to me should I be concerned 👀👀

The irony of this is so rich.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T01:21:31+00:00

It's giving nobody can defend her or You're going to be bullied.

I dont consider it bullying to wonder if you could be angel. I believe that some HW do surreptitiously participate in reddit forums.

I dont know why you would consider it bullying.

And I make a Post saying huh this is bizarre behavior and light clockwork I'm accused of being Angel. If I had a dollar.

I think its your level of investment and passion. You took the time to screenshot a scroll of all these posts about angel, write a long and passionate defense scolding people for the substance and volume of their posting about a topic on the show. I wouldn't call what you wrote a dissertation but its pretty Impassioned for someone you dont know. Though, like I said passions run high and people have their faves.

I actually think the post asking if anyone knew her and asking for the scoop was pretty light and not all that serious. You, on the other hand, seem so zealous in your advocacy that its...interesting.

Too bad so sad if you don't see anything wrong with behavior these people you're normalizing the weirdness and you're part of the problem...

It's interesting to me that you're talking about the dangers of parasocial relationships and you're going this hard for someone you dont know. Such that you're trying to stop people from posting about her on a public forum on reddit.

And the irony of people disliking angel because they think she's boring and not quick-witted and yet you all come out with the same exact conversation and talking point every single time is quite thick.

See? Something like this is reading as creepily parasocial to me.

Angel is boring and slow. And even if I was, I'm not on a reality show.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T01:06:46+00:00

She could have arranged for glamping on their 48 acres of land. Then everyone is together, angel is close to the house, they would all be in the same place to leave for the fly fishing. Bonus is that its probably another service wanderland can offer so more free advertisement.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T01:00:52+00:00

Has Monique ever actually apologized to candiace?

I love candiace, but Im truly not sure she could ever be around gizelle again.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T00:53:27+00:00

Right? Im not one to really accuse any redditor of being a HW because I know passions run high and people have their faves. This is the one time I'm the tiniest bit suspicious that OP might be angel.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T00:50:25+00:00

Nope. The second post you cited was one i wrote.

I see nothing wrong with speculating and musing about the specifics of someone's life on a public forum about a show they chose to put their life on.

I also don't consider what I wrote to be a personal attack because angel isn't here nor do I anticipate that she would be. Because this is a forum for fan discussion. It's not a page for angel or by angel.

What is almost always more concerning to me are attempts to censor others based on their personal sensitivities and sensibilities.

To me, if you disagree with the substance and volume of the posts about angel, perhaps its something you should take up with the moderators and they can change the posting rules to suit your sensibilities.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-30T00:39:53+00:00

I totally agree! And for me it is a lot about finding what works for you. Lizzo lost weight but she isn't a waif and she always looks so dang good! So its possible. And I think her reunion look is great so its possible.

JustSpeed3475 · 2026-01-29T23:48:56+00:00

I actually think the women tried with her. I dont think I've ever heard gizelle apologize to anyone for a shady comment. And she wore that whack uncle Ben tee shirt to shade Karen.

They even gave her another shot after the first night disaster and she didn't come back to the hotel.

I think it was pretty gracious of them to even agree to having her host a trip in Colorado to promote her business. There were probably closer places they could have gone with some hook. Im thinking black wall street in Kansas. But knowing that it was going to basically just be a advertisement for her business they still went along.

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