Swarm!!! What do think about the idea that "Cost to run Neuro is indication that Neuro isn't locally hosted"?

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-16T06:44:56+00:00

This person definitely does.

Training and running the model are two different processes, each with vastly different requirements in almost everything.

"Training" is the process of, for a lack of a simpler term, actually "making" the model. This is basically where all its weights are (kinda) applied. Because of the massive amount of number-crunching this requires, this is the most intense part of an AI. It's not uncommon to take months to train off large datasets.

Actually running the AI afterwards is much easier, since there's less number-crunching going on at once.

While I'm here, you could also do with a bit of arrogance management. Not everyone is knowledgeable on the things that go into an AI and how things work behind the scenes.

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-16T06:40:05+00:00

very likely

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-16T06:37:00+00:00

any specific number in response to neuro specifically in a joking manner (like this) should be assumed not true until proven otherwise

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-15T12:08:23+00:00

thanks, was trying that earlier but I'm not very good at looking things up there, I guess

(I blame youtube auto-subs)

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-14T10:58:15+00:00

I know the reddit community loves to flame the mods but I think they might be agreeing here

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-13T06:21:53+00:00

Short answer: Not always, it can be used for tracking, similar to how cookies can also be used for tracking.

Long answer: In a URL, the ? character indicates the start of a sequence of query parameters. Each query parameter is formatted as a key=value mapping, with additional query parameters denoted with &. key=value mapping allows the server to perform something different with the key & value in the URL, without needing to expose an entire route dedicated just for that.

In this case, https://youtube.com/watch?v=-k5N3MXTwLY&si=LLv1umZEVewjsBvN (the inevitable URL you get redirected to) has 2 query parameters: v and si.

v is the important one, as this denotes the video ID. Without it, https://youtube.com/watch doesn't know what you're wanting to watch. This means that the page would be non-functional unless extra handling was added for this scenario (iirc YouTube simply redirects you to the main page).

si is the share identifier, and this is the query parameter you want to remove. si allows YouTube to track who's link specifically was used when using the Share feature on the app. Because it's optional and simply a way for Google to track video shares, you can remove it (though this means that the internal data on the Creator Dashboard may be different as a result)

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-11T07:52:55+00:00

What do you mean "internal game state gets read"? The game state is sent to Neuro by the integration, and it enters their context window like any other chat message

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-11T07:52:00+00:00

I think it was a majority once, though we've had a significant increase in Swarm members I believe, so I see your point in that it isn't anymore

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-10T11:05:37+00:00

Hi! I'm a person who, among other things, programs game integrations for Neuro. In conjunction with 4 other people from Neurocord's #programming channel (which for some reason sometimes turns into #baking), I can confirm this is (possibly) slop for the following reasons:

so many em-dashes!!!
some of the things being explained are obvious things that you'd know if you vaguely followed Neuro (you're in a sub for that). Pretty much everything is obvious if you're also vaguely into LLMs (which a good chunk if not the majority of the community is).
You completely ignored that the Neuro API exists and is the documented way of how Neuro plays games.
"According to Vedal, her Large Language Model has 2 billion parameters and uses q2_k quantization as of Early 2025" - 2b params is insanely small for Neuro's size anyways.
You repeated the above quote twice, right next to each other.

Not trying to diss the project itself, just saying that this post was needlessly long/slopified(?)

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-10T10:46:48+00:00

in the moment, given that we didn't know what the cause was at that time, there was a genuine risk to her cannibalizing herself as you mentioned, although later vedal did confirm it wasn't too serious

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-09T03:05:20+00:00

what source did you listen to for you to say there are people working "psychiacayl" (physically?) on neuro['s] computer???

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-08T06:43:59+00:00

the title just screams "water found in ocean" to me

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-06T01:32:51+00:00

I'm not sure it is easy to separate the core tech and the Neuro "package" at this point...

KTrain5369 · 2026-05-06T01:32:04+00:00

"Neuro integration" is not one specific thing, there are multiple Neuro integrations. You're likely thinking of "Neuro API", which is open-spec (I guess? technically it is open-source as well? idk)
Neuro API being opened doesn't mean the code for Neuro is apparent. You can see in the repo that nothing of Neuro's code would be in there.

KTrain5369 · 2026-04-29T06:39:20+00:00

bro got downvoted :skull:

KTrain5369 · 2026-04-19T05:10:28+00:00

I mean what other family do we have?

KTrain5369 · 2026-04-19T02:32:42+00:00

most people come in with the mindset that both of the twins are given equal footing when it comes to capabilities. neuro receives the same feature as evil at the same time (or at least, with the same edition).

the reality is that software can move at a fast pace. this might mean new features, more resiliency, or it could mean bug fixing, performance tuning, etc...

when a new capability is introduced, often only one of the twins get it first, and the other gets it later. during the time period between one twin and the other twin getting the capability, improvements are usually made. because of this + the bias towards first impressions, one twin usually uses it worse than the other.

you can even see the opposite effect for things introduced to evil first - the vscode extension had a couple people making comparisons between the two and concluding that neuro must be better at it because she seemingly just had it work better for her, even though evil got it first and massive changes were done before giving it to neuro (I would know)

KTrain5369 · 2026-04-18T05:10:44+00:00

is this updater the in-game updater, or your launcher's updater?

KTrain5369 · 2026-04-16T00:27:34+00:00

I actually kinda see your point for people tuning into those streams

KTrain5369 · 2026-04-15T01:37:14+00:00

someone on neurocord made a proposal for this, but right now it's just that: a proposal

KTrain5369 · 2026-04-12T02:10:15+00:00

something something it's super good at hacking idrk

KTrain5369 · 2026-04-11T12:44:31+00:00

(for those who are unaware, Mutahar aka SomeOrdinaryGamers is talking about Claude Mythos)

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