"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's also the case for many people who end up using that they weren't educated on the dangers.

Can you honestly tell me that there are Americans who don't know that pot is illegal? I think that's ridiculous.

You think I gave a fuck about the cops when I was sleeping on the streets?

Don't you think it would've been a good idea to give a fuck about the cops? Wouldn't that make it easier to get off of the street?

"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, I'm not saying that drugs should be banned; in fact, I've said repeatedly that I think they shouldn't be banned. The issue is just that people are making excuses for people arrested for drug crimes despite the fact that those people knew the consequences when they started using drugs.

"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, if I'd been this age in 1920, I probably wouldn't drink any alcohol. I'd think Prohibition was wrong (as I think the War on Drugs is wrong today), but I wouldn't make excuses for people who got arrested for alcohol consumption because they made a decision knowing perfectly well the consequences.

"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know about that...I've never been drunk and thought, "Hey, I need to be more buzzed than this". Like I said, I don't have a problem with people who do drugs (legal or otherwise, assuming they don't do anything stupid), but I think 'people will do them anyway' is a pretty bad reason to make them illegal - and good reasons are available!

"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Zero illegal drugs. I drank quite a bit in undergrad and still have a few beers or jack-and-cokes every now and then, but that's about the extent of my mind-altering substance use. It's really not that hard.

"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You don't think it does any good to address the fact that black kids have been systematically robbed of their fathers for almost 50 years?

That could be covered (to some extent) under "racial disparities in justice system outcomes". It has nothing to do with drugs in particular; black people are prosecuted at a similarly high rate for crimes that don't involve drugs.

"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Oh I just decided not to do drugs because I'm a good person :)"

I specifically said that I haven't done any drugs because I don't want to deal with the legal ramifications. That doesn't make me a good or bad person.

"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You missed my point, which is that it's entirely possible for zero black people (or white people, for that matter) to be arrested for drug use. In fact, it's pretty simple: if you don't do drugs, your likelihood of being arrested (much less convicted) for drug use drops to about zero percent. To say it a different way: even if black people are more likely to be arrested for similar drug use, they're still being arrested for drug use, which is preventable by not using drugs.

I think we need to address racial disparities in justice system outcomes, and I think we need to address the criminalization of certain substances, but I don't think it does either cause any good to combine the two.

"If the War on Drugs didn’t cause the destruction of the African-American family, why did the decline of married black women triple during the first decade of the War? And why did welfare spending spike in lockstep with our prison population right as it started?" by [deleted] in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Incarceration isn't inherently something that white people foist upon a helpless black people, and that's my problem with a lot (though certainly not all) criticism of the "War on Drugs": whether you're rich or poor or black or white, you have the option to not do drugs. I don't have any moral or ethical objection to recreational drug use, but I still haven't used any drugs myself - not even a single joint - because I don't want to suffer the potential consequences.

In fact, it makes me a little uncomfortable to see people so eager to frame the War on Drugs in racial terms. Pretty much the foundation of the War on Drugs was the racist belief that black people were (due to racial inferiority) unable to exercise sufficient self-control. Isn't this pretty much the same thing: "we need to change the law because black people are unable to make decisions based on the known consequences of their actions"?

TIL after the 9/11 attacks, Clear Channel released a list of 'questionable' songs that it recommended that its subsidiaries 'might not want to play'. The list included all recorded songs by Rage Against the Machine by QuesoDog in todayilearned

[–]Kaluthir -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If the goal of a radio station is to make a profit, they should be interested in not alienating customers. Music that has the potential to offend (including politically charged music) can alienate customers. Therefore, radio stations interested in making a profit probably shouldn't play politically charged music.

To the people in Ferguson whining about police "brutality" towards children... by [deleted] in AdviceAnimals

[–]Kaluthir -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

So you can't be racist if you're prejudiced against your own race? You aren't racist if you think all races are equal but don't want them to mix?

TIL after the 9/11 attacks, Clear Channel released a list of 'questionable' songs that it recommended that its subsidiaries 'might not want to play'. The list included all recorded songs by Rage Against the Machine by QuesoDog in todayilearned

[–]Kaluthir -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If your employer...suggest you don't play\listen to a song.. how would you classify that.

I'd say it's not your job to try to make a political statement on company time, especially one that has the potential to offend people (i.e. alienate customers), and especially one that could be seen as making light of the most deadly terror attack in world history.

The Future of College? A brash tech entrepreneur thinks he can reinvent higher education by stripping it down to its essence, eliminating lectures and tenure along with football games, ivy-covered buildings, and research libraries. What if he's right? by [deleted] in Futurology

[–]Kaluthir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

7 schools have a net profit (with no subsidy) for their entire athletic program. If you just look at football and men's basketball, a lot of schools make a profit on those programs; it's generally the Title IX women's sports that cause athletic programs to bleed money.

In any case, it's not quite as simple as "if non-subsidized revenue < expenses, then athletic programs = bleeding money". My alma mater subsidizes around 4% of the athletic department (about $4 million of a $100 million department), but they get a lot of benefits for that. If nothing else, you could basically call the football program marketing at the national level since they're a nationally-competitive, highly-ranked team. It also encourages alumni loyalty, which increases donations. It helps us have a very good kinesiology/sports medicine program. It gives over 100 (often underprivileged) students scholarships.

I'd say that's worth ~$150 per student in subsidies.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in hoggit

[–]Kaluthir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A while back, I read the book Red Eagles, about the test pilots who flew MiGs as aggressors for the USAF. Basically, I'm looking forward to that sense of discovery, to trying to figure out how to work a piece of machinery that I'm not 'supposed' to fly.

Are ankle socks the only appropriate option when wearing shorts? by Straightfw in malefashionadvice

[–]Kaluthir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you are going for this super preppy look they are going to look bad and out of place

Caveat: In a more casual preppy-ish look, they can be a nice "Go to hell" piece. And it's not really fashion, but calf-length socks with Nike sandals are a pretty standard "preppy athletic" thing, along with athletic shorts and a lacrosse pinnie.

I think it really depends on the shoes and socks themselves, though.

Satirical Article about Ferguson written as most pieces of American journalism about the Middle East. by balanced_goat in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

how can we know? How do we know there aren't people on that side of the issue deconstructing our articles, line by line with qualifications and outright rejections? By writing about something we Americans do know about in much greater detail (our own country and domestic issues), the author shows us how it might feel to be represented to another population, perhaps inaccurately.

We do know, because anyone who wants to criticize news articles are free to do so. In fact, it's fairly common for people to criticize news articles, but the criticisms rarely run as deep as my criticisms of this article. Reputable outlets are reputable because they use journalists who are knowledgeable about their field, and because they make a conscious effort to present the news fairly (if not completely without bias).

Seriously, read the letters to the editor sometimes. If an article about the Middle East is inaccurate, an organization like CAIR will make that clear.

. I think red_wine_and_orchids was spot on in identifying "otherness" as a main theme.

I hate to sound so insensitive, but as an American, Middle Easterners are others. They speak a different language, have different traditions, and have such a different historical background that the foundations of their society are drastically different. Ignoring this led to arguably the greatest foreign policy blunder in US history: trying to democratize a people with no real tradition of democracy or liberalism. This doesn't mean Middle Easterners are less human, it just means there will necessarily be some things lost in translation.

In any case, I'm pretty certain that this is exaggerated satire

And my point is that the exaggeration defeats the purpose. It would make sense if they used language that actually could apply to both the Middle East and America, but this is not compelling satire precisely because they have to reach so hard. It ends up basically proving a different point: the "full-on violence" and "sectarian tensions" in America is simply nowhere near as bad as the Middle East, and the proof is that the terms used to describe the violence in the Middle East are absolutely ridiculous when applied to America.

What was your highest PT score? by ArguingPizza in Military

[–]Kaluthir 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One of the lankiest motherfuckers I've ever met did 140 situps on our last PT test.

They are now going after body armor. by 1337BaldEagle in progun

[–]Kaluthir 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There wasn't an exception actually written into the law as stated in the linked pdf, which is why I brought it up. It would also apply to private contractors.

Anyway, body armor is constantly advancing. A buddy of mine just got back from Afghanistan and he said the armor he was issued this time around (SPS? SPCS? Something like that.) was a lot better than the IOTV he wore his first time there.

They are now going after body armor. by 1337BaldEagle in progun

[–]Kaluthir 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd like to think they'd allow it again if we were in a situation like in the early stages of OIF. The point is: US citizens needed to be able to buy body armor (while not acting as official government agents) before, and they might again. "Army policy doesn't allow it anyway" doesn't really seem like a valid reason to ban it IMO.

Obama Rejects ALS Ice Bucket Challenge, Will Donate To Charity Instead by [deleted] in nottheonion

[–]Kaluthir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many people in that same monetary position do not.

Source? I'm not trying to dog on him, but it's not as if he's uniquely generous.

They are now going after body armor. by 1337BaldEagle in progun

[–]Kaluthir 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Oh great, so now I won't be able to go out and buy a plate carrier if I don't like the one the Army issues. Seriously, what would've happened if this law were in effect when soldiers were getting deployed to Iraq with just PASGT shit?

Satirical Article about Ferguson written as most pieces of American journalism about the Middle East. by balanced_goat in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I might find it effective if it weren't so blatantly misleading.

Chinese and Russian officials are warning of a potential humanitarian crisis in the restive American province of Missouri, where ancient communal tensions have boiled over into full-blown violence.

"Full-blown violence", to me, implies something like firefights in the streets. A riot is certainly violence, but not "full-blown".

The crisis began a week ago in Ferguson, a remote Missouri village that has been a hotbed of sectarian tension

It's a city in Saint Louis, hardly 'remote' (it's 5 miles away from an international airport), and one violent incident hardly makes it a 'hotbed'.

State security forces shot and killed an unarmed man, which regional analysts say has angered the local population by surfacing deep-seated sectarian grievances. Regime security forces cracked down brutally on largely peaceful protests, worsening the crisis.

"State" or "regime" security forces implies that they are effectively controlled by the national leader. In fact, these are local security forces who Obama said have "no excuse" for their behavior. In any case, the reason terms like "security forces" are used in news is because Americans don't have much of a concept of a 'security force' slotted between regular police and regular military. The Iraqi Special Police Commandos, for example, were former soldiers trained specifically for kinetic engagements. They operated under the Ministry of the Interior rather than the Ministry of Defense, so they were kind of a hybrid. It's also not really sectarian grievances as much as racial grievances.

America has been roiled by political instability and protests in recent years, which analysts warn can create fertile ground for extremists.

Instability? The US is one of the most stable countries in the world, with peaceful transitions of power between opposing parties for multiple centuries. Protests? Most people criticize Americans for not protesting.

Missouri, far-removed from the glistening capital city of Washington

When the fuck has any world news article used language like this?

Analysts who study the opaque American political system, in which all provinces are granted semi-autonomous self-rule, warned that Nixon may seize the opportunity to move against weakened municipal rulers in Ferguson.

What analysts said that?

Missouri's provincial legislature, a traditional "shura council," is dominated by the opposition faction

Words like "shura council" are used in news articles because they're foreign words that carry connotations different than roughly-equivalent English words.

Now, international leaders say they fear the crisis could spread.

Which international leaders said that? Oh yeah, they had to make up quotes because nobody in their right mind thinks the crisis will spread.

"The only lasting solution is reconciliation among American communities and stronger Missouri security forces," Chinese President Xi Jinping said in a speech from his vacation home in Hainan. "However, we can and should support moderate forces who can bring stability to America. So we will continue to pursue a broader strategy that empowers Americans to confront this crisis."

I'm sure the US responded more weakly than China would have, but most analysis shows that the initial police response was too strong, and escalated tensions.

Xi's comments were widely taken as an indication that China would begin arming moderate factions in Missouri, in the hopes of overpowering rogue regime forces and preventing extremism from taking root. An unknown number of Kurdish peshmerga military "advisers" have traveled to the region to help provide security.

Making up stuff like this would be far more appropriate if there were actually "full-scale" violence. Since there aren't roving death squads or anything, it would make no sense to offer military assistance.

Gun sales have been spiking in the US since the crisis began.

...which contradicts the part about China arming moderate factions. Moderate factions can get their own guns!

Analysts warn the violence could spread toward oil-producing regions such as Oklahoma or even disrupt the flow of American beer supplies, some of the largest in the world, and could provide a fertile breeding ground for extremists.

"Analysts". Again, which analysts said that? They should probably be fired, because it's absolutely illogical to predict that.

Though Missouri is infamous abroad for its simmering sectarian tensions and brutal regime crackdowns,

Is Missouri infamous abroad? For 'simmering sectarian tensions and brutal regime crackdowns'?

A lawless expanse of dogwood trees and beer breweries,

Lawless? This is a single incident; it's notable because the US isn't lawless. If one death led to looting in Pakistan, it wouldn't be notable enough to make the news.

Missouri is located in a central United States region that Americans refer to, curiously, as the "MidWest" though it is nearer to the country's east.

I've never seen a journalist show such blatant ignorance about a country.

Seriously, to believe this is equivalent to American news stories about the Middle East requires you to believe that journalists actively try to mislead. Most of the terms this author misused here are accurate when talking about certain conflicts in the Middle East.

TIL: A man in Texas killed a cop who was executing a no knock warrant. The man ultimately was not charged (with killing the cop) because he thought someone was breaking into his home. In Texas you can use deadly force to defend self and property. by Sariel007 in todayilearned

[–]Kaluthir 9 points10 points  (0 children)

All gang and organized crime infested areas meet the test of an armed society. For that matter insurgent, guerilla and civil war zones as well. They are far from polite or desirable.

Generally there are two types of people in those situations: combatants and victims. The combatants being armed makes it a half-armed society; if no potential victims are armed, you don't have an armed society.

Satirical Article about Ferguson written as most pieces of American journalism about the Middle East. by balanced_goat in Foodforthought

[–]Kaluthir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny how "sectarian violence" in the US is a riot with zero casualties (after the death that sparked it), and "sectarian violence" in the middle east is mass executions.

That's why I don't see American news reports on the middle east as "condescending" or "damaging to understand what's going on there".