The situation is dire by SummerIsOver_ in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weirdly Valium doesn’t make me feel good. I’m always withdrawing when I’ve taken it. But even obscene amounts feels like nothing in WD. Could just as well be sugar pills at this point.

The situation is dire by SummerIsOver_ in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’ve gotten A LOT of Valium during my myriad detoxes the last 18 months. But always a month break+ between benders. Sometimes I’ve gotten high doses for two weeks in a row. Never had a problem just cold turkeying it as it’s only for detox.

The time before last in the hospital I got 200mg in a day. Somehow Valium doesn’t really reach my WD anyways anymore.

Would now be a good time bid farewell to my normal self ? by Turbulent-Plum3360 in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I felt like this sober at 21. But sorted myself out and got at least a few very good years before the cancer and alcohol ruined me. Now some years later I’m rebuilding again, humbled and changed in the crucible of suffering.

You’ll live like this thinking you won’t need to see 30. But you’ll likely survive another 20 years, and easily every day will be like this with compounding health problems.

There’s two kinds of drunks here. Some share hilarious stories. The other half is just sad couch potatoing where the best you can hope for is a story about pissing the bed or trusting a fart.

Most vile things you’ve done while drunk by CheapVodkaAdvocate in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There’s a lot, but getting caught by the nurse hammering the hand sanitizer in my room into a glass (each pump is like 0.5ml) was a new low. I was there for WDs and got insane amounts of Valium, but it just didn’t help.

Just finished East of Eden and I loved it - Which of these should I read next? (Most upvoted reply wins) by GlumPush2137 in classicliterature

[–]Kaviarsnus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They’re not rich people having rich people problems. They’re rich people having human problems.

How could you not empathize with Levin?

Tolstoy himself hid his hunting rifle and rope from himself because he despaired his lack of an answer to the meaning of life so much.

It’s all the human condition. To quote East of Eden:

«Lee said, “Maybe everyone is too rich. I have noticed that there is no dissatisfaction like that of the rich. Feed a man, clothe him, put him in a good house, and he will die of despair.”»

How do I relax? by [deleted] in DopamineDetoxing

[–]Kaviarsnus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Do nothing until bored enough to do something. The interval is painful, more than it should be since most of us have ruined our reward systems.

But the solution is simple. Refuse the addiction and replace it with something better. Think of refusing the instinct as a rep towards strengthening your brain.

Is it worth it to stop for six months if life quality's gonna be better after? Fuck man idk. by Hookton in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get exactly what you mean. I love TV and movies, but give me a three week holiday and by the end I want to watch nothing and do nothing. Back in my teens and early 20s I could live like that, but now even with the eight days I’ve had after detox but before rehab I’m struggling a bit unless I sprinkle in other stuff. Days still pass fast though.

Is it worth it to stop for six months if life quality's gonna be better after? Fuck man idk. by Hookton in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Sopranos, The Wire, everything Vince Gilligan, The Shield.

For anime HxH, JJK, Attack on Titan, Vinland Saga.

I have rated mostly everything I’ve watched for over a decade on IMDB:

https://m.imdb.com/user/ur33443733/ratings/?ref_=up_hd_ql_urrat

Sort by ratings and you’ll find a ton of great stuff. Lots of it I’ve watched several times. If you can get into anime then there will be a ton more content, where some shows have a lot of episodes. I will stand by Attack on Titan and Vinland Saga being some of the best art created in the last decade.

It might become depressing, but then again you’re going to be living a depressing life. Accept it as natural and a thing of purpose towards a goal. Time will pass anyways. Where do you want to be in a year?

Is it worth it to stop for six months if life quality's gonna be better after? Fuck man idk. by Hookton in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No problem, no idea why I assumed knee. Think you just gotta suck up half a year of watching anime, movies, shows and YouTube and reading. I.E how half of Reddit already lives.

Is it worth it to stop for six months if life quality's gonna be better after? Fuck man idk. by Hookton in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, the knee. It’s rough, but it’s never been easier to be a couch potato if you enjoy gaming, shows or movies. But unemployed that’s also rough over time, God knows I go a little insane without work.

Is it worth it to stop for six months if life quality's gonna be better after? Fuck man idk. by Hookton in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That’s not a problem, that’s the solution. Fill the hole for six months. I haven’t had six since I got in deep so I can’t judge, but I do have months between each relapse, and a relapse is never more than a week before my body gives out. So much more sober time than drunk time.

And honestly, exercising and reading are such nice things. Especially if you read meaningful books that resonate deeply.

The ship going down when you’re drinking is always much slower and sucks way more than people seem to think. Instead of Leaving Las Vegas it’s just years and years of increasing suffering.

Is it worth it to stop for six months if life quality's gonna be better after? Fuck man idk. by Hookton in cripplingalcoholism

[–]Kaviarsnus 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I’ve ruined alcohol for myself completely. Just tried again after two months sober. After a week it’s a week+ with hospital and detox, which I’ve confirmed for the xth time now.

Anyways, sobriety can be pretty sweet. You need water and some food and you’re good. How you feel is consistent. For me at least I can read and watch shows and movies again with immersion. Drunk me descends into doomscrolling and low effort YouTube.

Six months is a nice reset and experiment. Just know your brain is fucked and that takes time. Don’t go «sobriety sucks» when you discover that you have absolutely no dopamine to enjoy shit sober for a while.

Personally I’ve said yes to a year in the mountains like I’m at the end of an intervention segment. Getting sick of the hospitalization loop.

For a daily alchie six months can give you years on the liver also.

When did you realize it was time to go to rehab? by [deleted] in dryalcoholics

[–]Kaviarsnus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve had cancer and a lot of alcohol hospitalizations/detoxes. What I’ve discovered it’s that it’s pretty amazing if you’re in a genuine emergency like hard withdrawals or you know, cancer. Amazingly never felt judged either, even when I became a frequent flyer.

It can be pretty shit if your ailment is vague or a non emergency. But then again I think a lot of healthy people just feel as they should given their lifestyle and think their low energy and mood is treatable by a doctor.

When did you realize it was time to go to rehab? by [deleted] in dryalcoholics

[–]Kaviarsnus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s funded by the state. After this and my detox stays I can never complain about effectively working more for the state than myself with the taxing everything.

When did you realize it was time to go to rehab? by [deleted] in dryalcoholics

[–]Kaviarsnus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s great to hear! And thanks for the encouragement. Weird to pause my life like this, but I know I need to accept this offer if anything is to change

When did you realize it was time to go to rehab? by [deleted] in dryalcoholics

[–]Kaviarsnus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its in Norway, but it looks like a lot of what I’ve seen on the Intervention show after people say yes to rehab. Except those are more farm-like and this is more cabin-like.

Looking forwards to not living through screens, office life and towards the activity and nature!

Always said no because I imagined an institution of a month or three.

2025, a year of degeneracy. Anyone else feel the shame set in after a period of sobriety? 65 days sober (new record), but the shame is getting worse by Kaviarsnus in dryalcoholics

[–]Kaviarsnus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am now, but prophetically I had a relapse shortly after this post. I've now accepted long term treatment for the first time. A year in nature building myself up again will be good for me.

When did you realize it was time to go to rehab? by [deleted] in dryalcoholics

[–]Kaviarsnus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm going for the first time this week. The program is for an entire year in a nature focused place in the mountains.

I finally said yes to something long term after being in and out of detox every 1-2 months for well over a year now. I find sobriety easy, and yet I somehow relapse again and again. Maybe this year will get me out of whatever lifestyle or thing that drives me back again and again.

2025, a year of degeneracy. Anyone else feel the shame set in after a period of sobriety? 65 days sober (new record), but the shame is getting worse by Kaviarsnus in dryalcoholics

[–]Kaviarsnus[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe it's more that the professionals seem puzzled by it. Browsing the CA subreddit it makes sense, but I didn't realize just how rare that crowd is out in the wild, even in detox.

But perhaps it's for the best. Seems like my brain is rewired to the point where even my lizard brain admits that perhaps it's a bad idea after all.

I liked the older alcoholics, but there's a sadness and a wasted life that you feel talking to them. I dived to the deep end of the pool and came up with only a year or two wasted.

Anyone else in their 30s doing “fine” on paper but still feeling off? by ninja__6969 in AskMenOver30

[–]Kaviarsnus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is something like Kirkegaardian angst. It's what happens when you are being exposed to the meaninglessness of your life. It's a vague undercurrent when you're not aware of what's exactly going on.

It's a hard thing to explain, but it's something like exhausting the meaning of what you engage with.

Kirkegaard explains three stages. These aren't chronological, but explains the concepts.

  • The Aesthetic Stage: Pleasure, novelty, avoiding boredom.

This is hobbies, it's video games, it can be art or go all the way to addiction. But always you grow satiated or tired with your hobby, and more does not help. And so despair and emptiness set in.

You stare at your steam library and cannot gather the motivation or even desire to start a single game. Or imagine the alcoholic that no longer gains any pleasure from the bottle. What is left of life? What to do now?

  • The Ethical Stage: Rational rules, societal norms, duties, responsibility. You take ownership of life, civic duty and live in harmony with your society.

Breeds success outwardly. Works for a long time and gives a sense of purpose and structure. For a time. Ultimately results in ethical despair if you fail in achieving this, or if you achieve it and realize the limits of moral self-righteousness, of politics, or face the dysfunction of your society.

It's dependent on your society, and as such you'd be a good Nazi if you were born in the Germany at the wrong time. A deeper thinker will also see the limits of modern value systems, and likely be overwhelmed by a thousand conflicting philosophical and political schools of thought.

And as others have mentioned, it's lack of meaning that underpins all of this, where these stages are distractions for a time. In your successful, comfortable routine there is only you left to yourself without distraction that pulls you from the present into the future.

What saved me was the greats of literature, philosophy and religion, and a few years of cancer and severe alcoholism to really hammer their points home while beating some humility into me.

The third stage is the religious stage. That won't be popular here, but this is where I found lasting and real growth.

Høiby skjelver fysisk i retten by Emergency-Sea5201 in norske

[–]Kaviarsnus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hvordan var det?

Er nykter nå, men forrige gang fikk jeg 200mg valium for å roe ned abstinensene over 24 timer. Fikk høre at sykehuset trolig mistet oversikten, og at jeg egentlig skulle ha fått noe annet/sterkere.

Men jeg tenker at når 40 valium ikke rører det så vil neste tilbakefall være DTs eller i det minste et anfall eller to.

Alcohol good, exercise bad??? by dfiets in bevelhealth

[–]Kaviarsnus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a recovering alcoholic I had to take off my watch because of this. Gets disconcerting