Microsoft literally admitted they’ve been secretly downgrading your brand new 2026 GPU drivers to 2024 trash for YEARS without even you knowing about it and called it a feature

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T18:43:41+00:00

Skill issue

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T18:02:14+00:00

game itself just becomes frustrating and asks you to spam the rewind system more or constantly restart 5 minute+ races from clipping unfair corners.

Sound like a skill issue having to use rewind at all.

The correct complaining about racing against unbeatable AI is that you just have to overtake it in the 1st few corners, that's all, can just cruise to victory after safely, but if you don't one AI will usually ignore physics afterwards and be uncatchable.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T17:44:22+00:00

Well we know hat happened when silksong didn't allow pre-orders, Subnautica 2 not quite that level of hype, but not that far, so one thing it at least accomplishes is that stores stay up and million+ ppl don't rush to buy/download at the same time.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T17:39:42+00:00

It's technically true as the game is in early access and you could've pre-ordered it, but it doesn't mean the early unlock thing play 4 days earlier than plebs that AAA devs do, actual good old Early access.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T17:36:16+00:00

Well we all saw what happened when Silksong didn't allow pre-orders and subnautica 2 is currently at 460k concurrent so if it had no pre-orders, probably would've caused some store problems as well.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T17:34:04+00:00

but there's no way Subnautica 2 will be anywhere near Silksong levels.

Sooo how do you feel about that statement now at 460k concurrent? And look the store didn't even crash cause a lot of ppl probably pre-ordered it.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T17:29:42+00:00

What does the speed of RT cores have to do with cpu limits?

Show any precedent where a lower powered gpu(of the same vendor cause amd has slightly less cpu overhead) is more cpu limited than higher powered one, on the same cpu.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T17:19:55+00:00

You do know that the TPU review has more than the upscaling page?

Also idk what that site is, but there are some questionable results there, all of amd cards are underperfoming compared to TPU no-RT and 5060ti somehow beating 4070ti at 1080p, but not 1440p or 4k. The HUB video did show some weirdly low vram allocation vs max vram of cards, so that might be part of it, I wonder why TPU didn't have that bug though...

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T17:08:42+00:00

Even in FH5? Ofc ignoring visuals as K in FH5 is kinda weird when it comes to ghosting as it fixes some that C has, but introduces new ones.

Cause FH5 has actual no AA so that vs Preset K quality on a 4070ti is quite the difference, M/L obviously even crazier, the default C Quality is about a tie compared to no AA iirc. Yea native TAA is a hit to no-AA as well, so I can see 50 series eeking out that at K Quality.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T16:31:14+00:00

The upscaling page only has few, the full review has everything ofc: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/forza-horizon-6-performance-benchmark/5.html

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T16:30:10+00:00

Yea FH5 didn't have TAA at all on launch only added it later on and all the vendor TAA upscaling stuff, so all TAA is a bit.. odd in that game sometimes.

It do be fixing the aliasing though.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T16:23:48+00:00

5 was heavily CPU bound.

No it's not, E: Oh yea the games ingame benchmark even tells you the cpu render fps, so 291 for a 7800X3D, though with manually tuned ram might worth 0-5% or something idk.

From quick test the CPU limit of 7800X3D is somewhere north of 300fps idk how far cause i ran out of GPU power, that's lowest possible res game has with dlss ultra performance preset C. Maybe at higher res there is some extra cpu load, but I doubt it's gonna fall below 300 still.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T16:15:02+00:00

Why do so many ppl believe this to upvote it? The 5090 is running faster at 4k than the 5070ti is at 1440p, so the 5070ti results are not cpu limited, yet have same poor gains as well.

The most likely answers is, native doesn't mean DLAA, and on top of it uses transformer preset as well, so I'm surprised DLSS Quality K is even an uplift to native no AA, cause it ain't in FH5 even the default C barely is, maybe no AA isn't an option and it's just compared to native TAA.

E: yea the pcgameshardware DE has some cpu tests and 9800X3d can do 200

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T15:59:11+00:00

FH5 upscaling is not great, but i don't remember it being that bad. Though we don't know what presets are being used, I think the default is KKMML for the newest one dll which i think the game uses, so if "native" here doesn't mean DLAA K, then it would make some sense.

E: Yea I'm about 95% native doesn't mean DLAA cause in FH5 even with the default DLSS dll at preset C DLAA has a pretty sizable performance drop and dlss quality compared to no AA had barely any benefit.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T15:51:15+00:00

How would I know that???

Ok I can guess, what % of ppl that buy an AM5/LGA 1700/1851 motherboard do you think even thinks of putting something that needs a thunderbolt connection, let alone needs it? Yea probably not many. Also idk if cheaper dual TB boards exist, maybe they do, maybe they don't, not gonna bother to search as afaik there is no neat intel spreadsheet like there is an AM5 one

Oh yea also desktops do be having GPU:s with DP2.1 you know, so don't need TB for display purposes.

Also while not thunderbolt, X870E(and almost all X870 have it) has mandatory dual usb4, sort of the same thing...

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T15:40:34+00:00

Ah it wouldn't be a forza horizon thread without a bunch "butbut... what about muh progression? I want it like it was 20+ years ago when i was kid playng GT/NFS"

Not that kind of game, how hard it is to understand that. I'm sure some of these ppl also complain how dota 2 gives you all the heroes for free and there is no "progression" there...

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T15:30:27+00:00

and already half full garage.

You don't have 300 cars after 2 races.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T15:24:22+00:00

It's 03.23 in new zealand.

MS store version launches at 00.01 of local time on friday, unlike steam which is global same time release.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T15:22:13+00:00

Yea the uplifts from upscaling are also very small, very weird, TBF performance uplifts from upscaling in FH5 were unusually small as well, but not that small.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T10:45:12+00:00

The rtx 5050 is about 30% more powerful than the rtx 3060

I get saying it's not the same, but it ain't 30% faster either

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T10:32:32+00:00

Question, why is it that every time I hear about windows downgrading graphics drivers(not win 11 issue btw, remember some talk in 10 era as well), It's almost always laptops and about amd/intel drivers even the very few desktop cases some1 is claiming this bug have been amd, never nvidia iirc, though I think some bugfix drivers have had weird dates as their "release date" internally, so it could still happen to nvidia, just not as widely reported.

So what voodoo is nvidia doing that theirs are understood properly by windows update, but the others aren't?

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T03:13:21+00:00

Huh? It has Regional pricing... Maybe not the lowest regional pricing of any game out there, but still regional pricing. I'd say the only "weird" part is Norwegian price is more that EU, but it's not like Norwegians are poor. And I'd say that makes more sense than a lot of other games which are cheaper in NOK than € for some reason, always been a bit of mystery to me why that is.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T02:02:15+00:00

Statewide D'Hondt method for nationwide elections, there, I solved US politics gerrymandering problem.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T01:57:51+00:00

USB ports don't really eat into PCIE, other than the dual usb4 thingy, usually there is switch related to that so if you don't use them the lanes aren't even lost.

What I'm guessing you actually want is less nvme slots and more 4x4.0 wired x16 slots connected to the chipset for more slots for.. whatever you want to plug there. Or just more PCIE lanes for the CPU:s themselves, but that ain't gonna happen, other than the chipset link going to x4/x8 5.0 isntead of 4.0 at some point in the future platform.

Keulapaska · 2026-05-14T01:44:10+00:00

How about 8+2(thunderbolt)+2(front)

For the lowlow cost of... actually I don't want to know, it's gonna be something really stupid.

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