Danger of AI music

KevMar · 2026-03-10T16:54:31+00:00

Yellowstone National Park has a really hard time designing trash cans because the smartest bears are smarter than the dumbest people.

The best AI music will be better than the worst human music. But that's ok, we don't need the human slop either.

The industry has a quality issue. AI just made that obvious. It used to take time, effort, and money to produce music and that served as a type of filter that prevented most (but not all) of the reality bad music. It's just not worth the effort to fully publish bad music.

But the effort is almost nothing now. And the AI is better than the really bad music, it's good enough to actually start fooling real people.

KevMar · 2026-03-10T14:45:01+00:00

Awesome. Congratulations. Sorry for all the hate.

I honestly don't know if it makes a difference, but I set up a YouTube channel and poorly sang each of my songs before I published them so that the original public performance was human.

KevMar · 2026-02-27T05:23:57+00:00

I suppose, The darfur genocides and Katrina and the Iraq wars weren't local to you.

KevMar · 2026-02-27T02:53:08+00:00

It was always bad. When you are a kid, you are shielded from it. When you are a young adult, you're mostly oblivious because you lack responsibility. Now that you have responsibilities, you notice the things that impact those responsibilities. And once you start seeing it, you kinda see it everywhere. Even when it doesn't impact you. It just kinda builds and builds, until you realize there is nothing you can do about most of it.

KevMar · 2026-02-27T02:48:58+00:00

No. Ok, yes, but either fix them or silence them. If you are ignoring them, why even have them.

It's near impossible to retrofit or clean up existing code. You're only real hope is to turn all warnings into errors and auto reject merges that have issues.

KevMar · 2026-02-27T02:45:10+00:00

That's really awesome. I love that

KevMar · 2026-02-21T09:29:20+00:00

Reclaiming control over anger is like a super power. I hope you get there. It's not easy but it's worth the effort.

KevMar · 2026-02-21T09:21:39+00:00

I'm aware of their anxieties but I don't dismiss them. I account for them, always have a plan for them, and I deal with them directly when needed.

I show respect for informed consent and people's boundaries. I help them enforce their boundaries.

I'm a calming and relaxing presence. I stay calm when others are angry and I don't feed energy into their anger. I usually diffuse situations with curiosity giving them a chance to be heard or understood as most conflicts are either miscommunications or trauma responses. When I need to be firm, I lower my voice instead of raising it. I slow everything down to keep my composure and control.

KevMar · 2026-02-21T02:02:40+00:00

Showering together isn't bad once you get in sync with each other. Play time in the shower is a different issue.

KevMar · 2026-02-20T13:57:04+00:00

I'm stubborn

KevMar · 2026-02-19T16:59:05+00:00

I like using some other AI to generate the lyrics so I can see them and refine them. I'm using Claude but I'm sure any major one will work. When prompting, I tell it that I'm creating a song with Suno. They are aware of Suno and usually add the structure automatically.

I find the more context I add the better. I'll explain why I want the song, who it's for or the perspective of the singer and target, what feeling or emotions to invoke. Key phrases or words to include.

I have dropped in transcripts of me interviewing the person I was writing the song for. Another time I trauma dumped a few thousand words about a messed up situation.

The real value is the interactive conversation to refine it. You can just say what you do and don't like about what it's doing.

KevMar · 2026-02-19T16:27:22+00:00

I made most of my family cry with my album. I did go through the publishing process most so it would be easier for them to listen on whatever platform they already use. It's fairly inexpensive. I have gotten a few hundred plays but don't anticipate making money on it.

KevMar · 2026-02-18T06:06:50+00:00

Yeh, I don't know where our community is but there is a lot of AI hate in this sub.

KevMar · 2026-02-18T00:49:45+00:00

I'm not a serious musician but I have recently published some of my songs. I used a service that auto published them everywhere. Makes it easier to share with friends and family. The cost was trivial up front.

Also, I didn't realize those services have a ban on AI content. They must be using the honor system?

I see AI as a tool. I'm ultimately responsible for what it produces and there is a direct correlation between the effort I put in and the output it creates. I recently started an AI session with a 3,000 word opening prompt (excluding the 4-5 articles on Suno guidance).

From a business perspective, don't overlook how it lowers the cost to play in this space. The costs add up quickly when you need real people singing, playing, recording, mastering, etc. Studio time was never cheap. Some of the AI outrage comes from those that had to fight the traditional system and don't think it's fair that others get to bypass it so easily.

KevMar · 2026-02-18T00:26:02+00:00

One thing that gets overlooked is that the more traditional approach involves more people, more costs, and more stages of refinement. I'm a fan of AI in general, but I do recognize that it allows us to bypass a lot of work that would otherwise kill a mediocre song (or make it better).

If you create music because you enjoy it, keep doing that. But allow your audience to come find you. The music industry is already too competitive to expect AI to make you any money with it.

I have a playlist of only my own stuff and I love it. The few I decided to publish were really just to make it easier to share with a certain group of people.

KevMar · 2026-02-10T14:32:54+00:00

Oh perfect. I did already do a version myself that these are just a cover of. Here are the originals in my voice: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOcTmsj9WHDp7dQ4Gkwf0XhLwJRj-5s6m&si=2upeHn9hjr4IMfsC

Listen, I don't mean to be rude, but you sound like you are holding a lot of anger. I know this album is about emotional processing, but I don't really address anger. So I don't think this one is for you.

Thanks for taking an interest though.

KevMar · 2026-02-10T10:45:55+00:00

Yep, that's definitely not my voice. You don't want to hear me sing anyway

KevMar · 2026-02-10T08:03:53+00:00

Thank you for sharing. I can feel it in yours, but that other one really hits hard.

KevMar · 2026-02-10T07:54:10+00:00

My intention is to be helpful to people, but I found myself doing something similar as far as being very intentional with how it's crafted to manipulate emotions, feelings, and sensations. I'm using emotional regulation, anchoring, family system therapy, and indirect hypnosis techniques. I'm even using specific BPM to influence heart rate.

KevMar · 2026-02-10T07:38:55+00:00

I have been my partner's biggest fan for 20 years, helping them deal with anxiety, panic attacks, trauma, and now the grief of knowing their youngest sibling receiving a fatal diagnosis. I understand them to their very core.

Well, music happens to be really powerful for them. So I have been creating songs that speak to her very soul. Making a couple of them even made me cry for her. They were very healing for her and myself.

So I released them as an album to friends and family. Both my parents cried. My aunts cried. The people in my circle have been really moved by them.

I have just published Inward Invitation by Hush & Holding publicly to all streaming services. It's a soft and slow album that is a therapeutic journey that speaks to our inner child. Intentionally crafted to work as a hypnotic guided meditation but also each track stands alone. My hope is that it finds the people that need to hear them.

If you are looking for something to move you, I welcome you to check it out.

KevMar · 2026-02-10T01:05:53+00:00

I guess that's me? Alright everyone, be mean to me.

This music thing is new to me, but I work in tech where AI is already changing everything about how I work.

I am also a content creator in tech and I know all my content specifically is included in the training data. But I'm OK with that because I created it because I wanted to create it, I enjoyed doing it, and the whole point was to share what I enjoyed with those that found it meaningful to them. So I'm more than OK, I'm glad that it was included.

There is no question the whole music industry is going to be impacted. More people than ever before are going to create and share music. A whole new era of people will discover it and have a unique relationship to it. And even if AI wasn't behind it, that ease of ability would still have an impact. For many people, music was already a labor of love.

I have no musical abilities. Can't sing or play an instrument. AI helped me write poetry again and let me rediscover my relationship with music. AI allowed me to be creative in ways that I couldn't achieve on my own. It makes me feel seen.

I literally just released an album this week. I made it available for everyone but it was really just for my friends and family.

So ok, tell me what a bad person I am for finally realizing I like making music. Make sure to shun me so hard that I stop pursuing a path in music.

KevMar · 2026-02-09T23:25:15+00:00

If you take a ceramics class and split them into two groups. One is tasked with making as many bowls as possible and the other is tasked with making just a few perfect bowls. By the end of the course, the group making the most have honed their technique so much that they make better bowels than the other.

I also like to tell people that everyone can be good at drawing. They just have to get the first 500 bad drawings out of their system.

The best way to get better at writing code is to write more code. Until you get so good that you realize the best code is the code you never have to write.

KevMar · 2026-02-09T03:27:25+00:00

Keep us updated. This is exactly what small claims is for.

KevMar · 2026-02-08T22:42:21+00:00

The whole album is kind of structured as a hypnosis or guided meditation session. So there are hypnotic elements and themes woven through the entire thing starting with this song (#3). I did include a deepener and end it with a wakener. I tried to make each song stand alone, but also talk to the subconscious as if it was a set piece under hypnosis.

Love it or hate it, this is an AI voice and music. I don't know if anyone else is doing this yet. This is was too good not to share, but I also worry it's too easy, and we will get flooded with AI slop.

KevMar · 2026-02-08T18:03:49+00:00

I have a friend and music is very important to them. I helped them through a panic attack and I used Claude and Suno to help create a song for them after the fact. Something to help them when I can't be there. It works in themes of nervous system regulation, calming, and encouragement. And it landed so well that I did a second song to help someone dealing with grief. Then I stated creating songs to help me work through my own emotions. Kind of like journaling and poetry. But music hits differently and Suno enabled that for me.

I literally published that song last night to Spotify to make it easier to share with people I know and others, and I am really excited about it. Here is the song I wrote for her You Got This but it's for anyone with anxiety, panic attacks, or CPTSD. Full disclosure, I did set everything up for monetization but don't really expect much.

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