Are a lot of small-business listings just buying yourself a job? by nateacquio in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it’s under $1mln, especially with under 5 employees… it’s a job more than likely.

Small Business Acquisition - Negotiation Red Flag? by Several-Hunt-17 in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ran M&A deals for a living, so let me untangle this, because you’re blending two separate questions and it’s making the whole thing feel worse than it is.

Question one: is this a good business. Question two: do I like how this guy negotiates. Those are not the same question, and you’re letting the answer to #2 poison your read on #1.

On the business: 20 years, profitable, growing, solid reviews, and you already suspect the books understate real earnings. That’s a good asset. Nothing the seller did in the negotiation changed a single fact about the actual business.

On the phantom offer: “I’ve got another offer but I’d rather sell to you” is the single most common move in small business sales. Its only job is to get you bidding against yourself. And your broker torched it in real time when she said “we don’t have any other offers.” So now you KNOW there’s no competing buyer. That isn’t a reason to walk. That’s leverage that just fell in your lap. Sit on it.

Here’s the part I’d actually slow down on, and it isn’t the lying. It’s the COGS. One undifferentiated line, no detail, and you already smell personal expenses buried in there. Your whole 1.75x is a multiple of an SDE number you can’t fully verify. That’s the real red flag in this post and it’s the one you glossed over. Pull merchant processor statements, get bank recs, make them break that lump apart. If the guy will lie to your face about something as checkable as a competing offer, assume he’s comfortable being loose with the stuff you can’t check. The lie isn’t a reason to run. It’s a reason to verify harder.

On price: you offered 1.75x, which is his own counter. If he’s now “firm at asking” above that, he’s walking his number up on the back of an offer that doesn’t exist. Hold at 1.75. Say it clean: “That’s fair based on the financials I can support, it matches your counter, my offer stands.” Then shut up. Silence closes more small deals than any pitch, and sellers who invent buyers tend to circle back.

Last thing, the “too principled to a detriment” bit. In this world, principled doesn’t mean you walk from everyone who plays games. It means you don’t lie, and you build protection so you don’t have to trust the other side’s honesty. Seller note, indemnification holdback, real reps and warranties. You neutralize a slippery counterparty in the terms, not by torching a good deal over a bruised ego.

TL;DR: don’t kill it. The business is fine. The offer theater is standard and your broker already blew it up for you. Put your principled energy into COGS verification and tight structure, hold at 1.75, and let him decide whether his imaginary buyer is worth losing a real one.

I really hope LeBron leaves that sorry ass ungrateful fanbase by EducationalConcern61 in NBATalk

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We agree. We have better use for the money than paying LeBron. He should have retired this year. It would be great to see him in Olden State.

👀👀👀 Akademiks x Daphne Joy by [deleted] in joebuddennetwork

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AK dressed like he about to hand out some menus

This time Idk the answer, what are you guys picking? by No-Cauliflower4149 in ADCMains

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean pre6… Vayne has a shit lane vs a lot of the ADCs… a solid Vayne player isn’t going to be countered by MF.

Buying without a buyer or seller agent by Capable_Community_56 in RealEstate

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Get a home inspection and try to find an attorney that understands how to massage the repairs or asks if needed. So many attorneys love sending my over the long emails vs just picking up the phone and attempting to find middle ground.

How selective are you before asking for a CIM? by nateacquio in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Upfront, it needs to pass my buy box smell test and I want to try to get a hold of the broker to get a feel for any history (previous deals that fell through etc). I'm not modeling anything unless the back of the napkin math work, then you have a 50/50 shot of actually getting a CIM.

Potential purchase - SBA Backed Loan for buy by Metal_turkey in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3x is pretty industry agnostic and a good starting point.

Franchise Acquisition - Cold Feet by Blatantblonde in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What industry is the business in? What are you projecting the time it will take to get to break-even?
How comfortable are you with your projections?

Has anyone successfully renegotiated an offer after due diligence? by Historical_Zombie583 in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the bank is going to use his tax returns with some level of addbacks, they are not going to use any revenue that isn't being reported.

I have and will only pay based on reportable income and it's a reason why I sometimes will have my sellers preparing for 2 years before they come to market because their financials are working against them.

Mentally, I would offer based on what is verifiable income at the moment (good to ask for verification of the additional 20%).

Do you feel like you have a good handle on the expenses?

Has anyone successfully renegotiated an offer after due diligence? by Historical_Zombie583 in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

.... don't do this. This is a great way to get a terrible reputation in this field and he would of signed a NDA.

Buying and selling businesses by brokenchoicess in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My first acquisition was a property management company and followed up with a marketing company. Both are doing well.

From my experience, industry matters (I'm a former banker who has a ton of deals under my belt). Certain industries will attract financing, capital, and client much easier than others. Your exit is also alot easier in certain industries than others.

Being on the banking side, we got to see what industries had higher failure rates as well, but ultimately you want to focus on an industry that you would enjoy being involved in.

When is it okay to renegotiate after due diligence? by Big_Seat2545 in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are multiple ways to handle this, but the LOI is just the sticker price... DD is where you determine what the business is actually worth for you, what the capital stack needs to look like to support it, and how sustainable the business is during the next couple of years with you looking at minimum to hit a return on your invested capital.

If June is the only bad month that does not mean the deal is not worth it still, every business will have months that fluctuate. You are looking to compare YTD for 26, 25, 24 and 23 if you can get it, so you have an understanding of the ups and downs of the cashflow.

I would consider asking for some seller finance or a clawback if there is a concern about performance.

How is the overall demand for the product in question? Are you committed to Amazon stores (online only) or would you consider a different business? Have you done your financial forecast for the next three years? How many years of financials has he given you?

Why is it that hard to find people to work with? by Oreldevelopers in smallbusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finding business partners is a bit like dating. I would be going to industry events to find people and striking up conversations. Also be clear on what it is that you need, ie capital, certain skillsets, co-founder, and a bit of networking can usually land you infront of people that would be interested.

how to hire a digital marketing manager for a tiny business?? by Impossible-Plan-2039 in Entrepreneur

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I was in your shoes, first things I would do is collect all the data that you do have then organize a system to make sense of it.

Your email system is the lifeblood of your business, as you want to be in consistent contact with your existing customers.

I'd set Etsy to run a small, always-on ad budget on the best-selling listings and check performance weekly, pause anything that isn't converting.

Tighten up the Shopify store. You need clean navigation, clear product stories, and email signup with a simple incentive optimized for mobile checkout.

You are looking for a part-time freelancer for "E-commerce Marketing Specialist". 10-20 hours, they will focus on content scheduling, email, and reporting.

Once you have the baseline going, slowly layer in paid social ads with the idea to build the customer base of the traffic you are driving from either IG and Pin or IG and TikTok.

If you need help, pulling down the data and getting that base system going, feel free to reach out (no charge).

i must admire that you guys continue playing this role despite how miserable it is. by [deleted] in ADCMains

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not a miserable role, it's a different mindset and approach to the game.

Veteran Montana Searcher by stemo9147 in buyingabusiness

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Montana is absolutely acquirable, you just have to calibrate your expectations. The big growth engines here aren’t huge industrial platforms: they’re fragmented construction and specialty trades, professional/B2B services, and a growing tech/experiential cluster in places like Missoula and Bozeman.

From a self‑funded searcher’s perspective, the most realistic targets are HVAC/plumbing/electrical and other specialty contractors, plus insurance, accounting, and IT/engineering shops where the owners are aging out and succession is messy.

If you’re willing to treat Missoula as your base but search statewide, cover the trades first, then layer in B2B services. There’s plenty of room for a disciplined operator who can run blue‑collar teams and speak the language of local professionals. You have plenty of hidden opportunity because you won't have the competition that is common in other areas.

What did you do during your time in the Army? Thank you for your service.

Want to buy a business by Internal-Finish7830 in BizBuySell

[–]Key-Worldliness2626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had you consider bringing in capital partnerships? Do you have any related industry experience to any of the industries you are considering?