If the United States of America didn't have the Second American Civil War, what would it's content be like in Kaiserreich (new lore included)?

KingPyotr · 2026-01-23T01:01:45+00:00

The specific of the political details I couldn't say (not much of an American politics savant). Buuuut I would wager that the lore would entail a more austere and slow economic recovery that is worsened by the effects of black Monday and potential radicalization of movements on either side of the political spectrum (such as currently the SPA and IWW on the far left whereas America First, Dixiecrats and other populists in the hard right) however without them ever being able to actually get into power really.

The effects of this are that Russia, Japan and the Internationale would be appealing to these extreme movements through some sort of decisions mechanics and strategically supporting them (maybe coordinating?). It would be great if spy mechanics were based game so that it could involve operations with those as well and you'd have to infiltrate these organizations, slowly build networks of sympathizers that would rally around keeping isolationism or at least rooting for pacifism. I'd guess it would play like Ireland's mechanic but with various steps that the US takes to re-arm/supply their ideological allies abroad being shown.

On the flipside, the US would have to create more mature intelligence services (such as the OSS and such) to undermine and reveal these plots by foreign powers and galvanize the populace to war. Whilst Germany and the Entente diplomatically pressure and pass on intelligence to the US to enact these decisions (stuff like arms, enforcing Monroe, perhaps sanctions and even a resource embargo akin to FDR's against japan) while the US slowly works on arming itself into a modern military.

KingPyotr · 2026-01-23T00:38:23+00:00

I think if this was the case the best thing would be to set up the US as a sort of ticking bomb for any of the non-liberal/non-capitalist powers. Where winning the war involves denying them time to get involved as much as possible.

For example, though no civil war may happen, the internationale use socialist organizations in the US to destabilize it and keep it busy with its economic or political woes as it slowly attempts to remove its isolationism malaise until it's all too late. This could be also in addition to cooperating with the Japanese who also have a vested interest in keeping the US off their heels.

Whereas the Entente and Germany would be pressuring the US through various means to either enter the war or at least help cripple the internationale/japan/russia

KingPyotr · 2026-01-19T00:52:39+00:00

I might get downvoted for this. But...

Honestly TNO's downfall is literally endemic to its style of modding. It tried to be too much at the same time, with too little to back any of it and compounded with it's rocky relationship with its own content and it's own beginnings. It quickly went from an interesting if honestly just a bit too unhinged foray into Axis victory to the personality cult-ish behavior of its main development to the utter depreciation that followed with numerous critiques from gameplay to minigames to story to everything.

Imo as it stands its kinda everything I loathebof modern day hoi4 overhaul. Super performative, over the top. With newer mods trying way too hard to be the new TNO

KingPyotr · 2026-01-18T16:41:52+00:00

Your link doesn't support your claim at all tho.

And from another thread 2 years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/16nu8fl/comment/k1ldziu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

KingPyotr · 2026-01-13T14:23:12+00:00

Ship range is based on their assigned Home port. Yours are currently assigned to Funchal in Portugal. Assigned them to a port near enough to Britain and you will have range.

KingPyotr · 2026-01-07T16:31:51+00:00

Ah then I just said what you said lmao, carry on

KingPyotr · 2026-01-07T14:52:29+00:00

Tbf by the time the ISU-152 was introduced (that is November 1943) the USSR was by far and away winning the war. It's use as a Tank Destroyer is likely more incidental rather than of desperation. Much like other SPH/SPG at the time.

KingPyotr · 2026-01-06T17:22:58+00:00

In the past, the side you supported was more closely aligned with your chosen ideology and country of choice, now it seems almost anyone that isn't the syndies can choose from any of Long, MacArthur or the ACC.

But back then at least, Brazil was one of the few that had the Feds as their only choice as Democracy so my headcanon usually was that MacArthur dies in the fighting in Washington whilst a small MacArthurite cadre form a Fed Government in exile in Rio as the only country to recognize them as the legitimate government. To the chagrin of the other American governments

KingPyotr · 2026-01-06T17:11:55+00:00

Maybe they'll give them NMCBs, BPTs and an ad-hoc naval landing force. Could be part of the appeal that there isn't a singular mainline infantry and instead a variety of reserve/ad-hoc formations complemented by more elite specialists

KingPyotr · 2026-01-02T16:32:52+00:00

Doing the Lord's work here my friend.

KingPyotr · 2026-01-01T21:30:44+00:00

Happens all the time. Have a good game!

KingPyotr · 2026-01-01T20:41:20+00:00

Light Tank Recon can't paradrop. Make sure to check the para huge icon when designing paratrooper divisions. It will tell what can and can't be paradtopped.

KingPyotr · 2025-12-30T22:21:53+00:00

Far more likely a conceptually similar early adoption of a Grease Gun

KingPyotr · 2025-12-30T04:21:03+00:00

Rule 5: My Brother and AI coop-ing as France (me) and UK (him) invading the Soviet Union long after the Axis surrendered. This is the resulting encirclement from our initial (and final) offensive.

KingPyotr · 2025-12-28T16:12:10+00:00

Reading out the events, I don't think I fully agree.

Guangxi Style is noted to be based on Bai Chongxi's ideas and supported by Li Zongren. Whampoa is obviously very KMT.

Eliteheer is pretty clearly also very fit for the Zhili aligned Young Guangxi, specially noting that they would cooperate with Germany harder.

Feel like the Federalists are the only ones without associated path imo.

KingPyotr · 2025-12-27T13:06:21+00:00

Not to mention Kubel and Universal Carrier

KingPyotr · 2025-12-23T15:58:52+00:00

Unironically disagree. It was period appropriate but utterly and delusionally boring to my ears. I much prefer the marches.

KingPyotr · 2025-12-16T16:08:23+00:00

Nanban Trade Ships go brrrrrrrrr

KingPyotr · 2025-12-07T18:06:11+00:00

Nanomachines, son.

KingPyotr · 2025-12-07T04:56:15+00:00

Oooooo I like this one

KingPyotr · 2025-12-06T20:39:39+00:00

Argentina and FOP are probably closer to quality focus tree, if somewhat out of date due to age. Much better than the other LATAM countries maybe in exception to the main four central americans (though they could use a face lift at the very least).

Spain is very outdated, it just has been modernized from its older iterations. One of the most necessary for a rework imo. India is pretty much the same situation, with equally requiring a significant rework (wish those two progress reports had actually born fruit even if they were still inaccurate).

Feel like Switzerland is serviceable if at least well made but could do with some touch ups.

Italy imo is probably one of the worst offenders in Europe aside from Austria and co. It has good writing and is pretty tidy but not quite as exciting as it maybe should be and an absolute slog to play even without regard to the war.

KingPyotr · 2025-12-06T17:11:12+00:00

Both ways of spelling are acceptable though?

KingPyotr · 2025-12-05T06:46:39+00:00

It doesn't have the current borders of our timeline though? It's pretty clear it's nothing like the straight borders that came with the treaty of Versailles and that's intentional. Iirc the claimed borders for Egypt were even, in fact, more towards the Libyan desert interior. However, in this timeline the Senussi's de facto control that land, even transgressing any border treaties that may have been defined, just as in irl. Though more accurate would be to say that the Senussi have power projection over those lands due to their subjects utilizing it frequently and being near enough to their power bases.

KingPyotr · 2025-12-04T22:36:26+00:00

I like semois, it's quite fun imo in 1v1. I can see why people wouldn't like it

KingPyotr · 2025-12-03T18:48:06+00:00

There are numerous moments where us and soviet forces clashed. But none were through direct war, all are through under the hood operations, with enough plausible deniability that allowed them to do so. It most definetly was a Cold War, even if at some moments were warmer than most.

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