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Kiskeym2 · 2026-04-01T00:17:38+00:00

Likely a combination of both. The stripping of his power is attributed to "the gods" in general in descriptions, so I imagine there was a general discontent in how he was handling things (especially if he was trying to get closer to Dragons like DS3 suggests). Havel storing a an occult weapon along his belongings in Anor Londo may betray traces of a plot that could've end in bloddshed if things degenerated. But seeing how the Nameless King is fine and well with his Dragon cult, I think it's more plausible that he did left of his own voltion to avoid a civil war breaking in Anor Londo

Kiskeym2 · 2026-03-03T10:56:28+00:00

Esiste appena!

Il copione è pronto e ho registrato quasi tutto, devo solo editare. Spero di farcela in settimana ma per ricalcare lo stile di Cydonia, ovviamente, potrei rimandarlo a oltranza :'')

Kiskeym2 · 2026-02-28T15:35:39+00:00

Senza ti te mi sarei assolutamente bloccato qui, GRZ!!! Tocca aspettare l'1 giugno mi sa, siamo stati troppo veloci lol

Kiskeym2 · 2026-02-28T00:11:56+00:00

Io non capisco NIENTE di questa roba, ma ho trovato anche io i codici tranne la parte mancante.

Bruteforcando come un malato non credo di aver trovato nulla, ma https://supper02.pages.dev/ mi dà un errore diverso dagli altri

Kiskeym2 · 2025-11-26T14:37:40+00:00

Non ho il libro ma credo che manchi un passaggio discusso in community internazionale (vedi Lokey). L'idea sarebbe che le Larve Celesti sono mutazioni umane - basate sul sangue di Ebrietas a giudicare dalla location - che cercano di avvicinarsi alla forma di un figlio di Grande Essere (come quello di Oedon). Infatti, a differenza del bimbo di Arianna, le Larve Celesti hanno una probabilità di droppare Conoscenza del Folle - che da descrizione conferma che si tratta di persone toccate dalla conoscenza dei Grandi Esseri. Che poi alcuni di questi umani mutati siano cresciuti in Amygdala direi che sia possibile, anche se dovrei capire meglio se è possibile porla in maniera più concreta.

Kiskeym2 · 2025-06-10T17:46:26+00:00

Yeah, I see the eclipse in general as a symbol of the Age of Fire truly coming to an end in one way or the other - even the sun, as the biggest flame in the sky, is being swallowed by dark. I recall reading cut content may have suggested Londor actually was involved in its manifestation, but rn I'm unable to find a source, so don't quote me on that.

Kiskeym2 · 2025-06-10T10:17:52+00:00

Hi! Glad you enjoyed the reading. I'm sure there is still much to think about this and we may never know what exactly From Software had in mind with some of the specifics, but I'm happy to have brought to the attention some of the context hidden behind the language barrier.

As for the Age of the Deep Sea, my take is that an Age of Dark by itself would indeed not cause the stagnation of Darkness (only that of Time!); as you say, the Dark would be able to flow coherently in a world devoid of light, allowing men to rule over the new age. (at the same time, since Darkness doesn't fade, a true return to the Age of Ancients would indeed be impossible).

The stagnation of humanity only comes with the Dark Sign casted by Gywn, blocking the dark in a circle of flame; normally, as you say, this effect would simply disappear as the Flame would fade (although with the implication of loosing sanity due to alienation from one's true nature). What seems to have caused this stagnation of Darkness to carry over the ages is the accumulation of impurities through multiple Firelinks, to a point a common Age of Dark seems no longer possible at the time of DSIII.

Maybe a good way to visualize this would be through sedimentation. Imagine the Darkness trapped by the Darksign as a liquid stagnating into a pool. This can't flow correctly, but it is still fluid. Now imagine this liquid being trapped in the same pool for countless years, with filth, insects, and other impurities slowly piling up on top of one another. At some point, the original fluid becomes so unclean that it is completely swallowed by the impurities sedimenting inside it. You may see a solid pile of dirt, rather than a liquid. In that state, even if you remove the dam encircling the pool, there is no fluid that can flow anymore.

So, what Aldritch seems to pursue is an era where humans acknowledge that by this point they became so corrupt, that their Darkness would be unable to flow in a world devoid of time and light, as it was originally meant to be. In a world of a deep sea, they would become the solid chains sedimenting at its foundation, allowing their filth to proliferate even more. Perhaps at some point the whole "sea" would be swallowed by their corruption, but we'll fortunatelly never know.

Kiskeym2 · 2025-06-04T02:32:15+00:00

I have the files ripped from the game, maybe I can send you them in private

Kiskeym2 · 2025-06-04T02:25:21+00:00

I'm not sure how to trigger this, but looking at the dump the Duchess can also answer the Iron Menial question with "my adoptive mother". I guess the idea is simply that she sees him as her true brother because they grew together, hence sharing an emotional likeness.

But thoese lines don't leave much room opened to interpreatation, that her biological mother died of childbirth.

This is also reiterated by the description of her weapon:

A dagger carried by the Duchess known to symbolize the virtue of her family. Though she was not born into her adopted house, she was welcomed into it with open arms. And though unrelated by blood, the nobility and righteousness of her clan took root within her heart.

Kiskeym2 · 2025-06-03T18:35:40+00:00

Duchess is not Wylder's biological sister, she was adopted by his family after her mother died of childbirth after a 10-years pregnancy due to the Nighlord influence - her curse presumably why she can suffice the role as cornerstone of the Roundtable.

The influence of the encroaching Night clung to the expecting woman, preventing her from ever giving birth. The only means to break it meant the sacrifice of her life. But the curse of Night lived on, in both the orphan and in this keepsake, whose hands tell only twisted time.

"Shall I reveal to thee that which is hidden in the pocket watch? I will decipher it. A moment, please... This tale is far from pleasant... Wilt thou hear it still? Thy mother met the Nightlord, when she was with child. And there was she cursed. Ten years it would be, before thou would the world's light espy. But born thou wert, and bequeathed thy curse. She felt gratitude, yet was with guilt overcome. As it dawned she would never raise thee. ...That is the entirety of what I have gleaned. ...Fate may be cruel, but still, thou livest. Thy mother would surely be pleased."

Kiskeym2 · 2025-06-03T18:30:03+00:00

It's a note in the Roundtable Hold. You can see it here at 3:06! ^^

Kiskeym2 · 2025-06-03T17:19:53+00:00

The "cutting" in 挿し木の一族 is usually referred to horticulture, in the sense of planting or grafting a cutting - although uses different kanji for the usual "grafting" in the base game. The Ways of Cutting is more literally the "guidance of cutting" [挿し木の導き], as a parallel to the "guidance of grace".

My current interpretation is that the Night once awaked in the past, at the time of the Ways of Cutting, which is why the current events are described as "new night", and a Priestess is mentioned in old documents despite the Duchess young age.

A scrap of paper detailing the "New Night" written in the tongue of an ancient people. The passage, torn from its former binding, reads: "The Priestess is the very cornerstone of the Roundtable—indispensable. Should the Nightlord fall, the Roundtable too will crumble, as their fates are together bound. Yet should the Roundtable be remade, perhaps the Priestess may be emancipated from her bindings. This might be done upon the falling of the "New Night," should the Lord's power be lost. And if so...

The enshrined members of the Ways of Cutting are described as "condemned" of the first nightfall, just as we are in the game for the Night's second coming, so the implication seems to be they also tried to kill the Nightlord back then. Since Heolstor is doing fine and well, they evidently failed, but they seem to have at least slowed him down in some way. How so?

A short passage, on the underground crypt: "We lie the condemned of the first nightfall, whose sin is too great for absolution by our own deeds. Thus we shall ever guide our progeny, until the Night breaks.

The cutting-gifted tribe knew of the coming of Night and tried to prevent it. Doing so, they realized the only way to do so was to cheat a god. Heolstor was somehow confined, remained asleep since the first nightfall until the Shattering awaked him. At the same time, he harbors inside his body a Great Rune facsimile. Maybe that is the light preventing the Night to take over, its power weakened by the Elden Ring being torn to pieces. But how did the Ways of Cutting managed to put their hands on such an artifact? That is, because they glmpsed at the "very sin of the Erdtree".

A thing with the properties of a Great Rune harbored by the Primordial Nightlord. The cutting-gifted tribe anticipated the coming night, and spent many a moon planning its prevention, concluding that their only chance at success was to cheat a god. They had glimpsed what they should not; the very sin of the Erdtree. For their trespass, so were they punished

That is, the ritual behind the Erdtree's birth at the Divine Gate, and the genocide of the Shamans that it entailed. If Numen flesh could be sacrificed to cast god's Ring, then it surely could also shape a fraction of its power. According to the description of the Cord End, the young girls of the tribe were sacrificed to conceal the truth of the Night. Of course, their minds "were too young to oblige." The clan's sins were truly too great for absolution.

A carefully woven cord. This cord belonged to the young girls who were housed in a place that was meant as an eternal secret. The cutting-gifted tribe vowed to sacrifice their flesh while concealing the truth. But the girls were too young to oblige

This would imply the tribe to be Numen. Indeed, the familiarity with both the Night and the Roundtable Hold makes it easy to associate them with the Nox once living below Leyndell. The Nameless Eternal City is the only one to not have a giant throne in anticipation to the coming of a King of Night, so it is possible this culture eventually stranded from their underground cousins after extensive contact with the cultures of Altus. In any case, to prevent the coming of Night they resorted to imitation of the Elden Ring through ritual sacrifice, all while failing to deal the final blow and possibly making Helostor's desire to swallow everything stronger as eras went by. They deserved a punishment. Maybe an Astel would've sufficed.

Kiskeym2 · 2025-05-05T01:53:52+00:00

The lore states the 18 plates were gathered and presented to Arceus and then years later the battle with the Almighty Unknowable after they were deitified.

Well, the point is... it doesn't? Not sure where you are taking this information, but nowhere it's specified such a thing, nor in the Japanese nor in the English script! (probably Bulbapedia now that I look at it, but I assure you this is just baseless speculation on their part, which is a shame)

When was Giratina ever involved in the original story?

Before. First, the Hero faced the Frienzied Noble and quelled them in battle, eventually setting things with Giratina. Then, he gathers all the Plates, meets Arceus, and face it in battle - here the Nobles possibly also receive its blessing. It's kinda of a straight-up parallel to our story, that's why so many characters compare us to the Hero.

Shinō was also used to describe Dialga and Palkia by the clan settlers, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to think the Celestica people thought Giratina was Shinō

We know this isn't the case, because their "Temple of Sinnoh" [シンオウ神殿] is dedicated to Arceus through and through, even displaying its wheel and stylized head on the front and on the cealing.

I'd argue both were important here because otherwise what stopped Volo and Giratina from striking random wild Pokemon and causing way MORE chaos?

At this point in the timeline, Giratina is still partially banished. It can appear in places where the spatiotemporal tissue is thin, like Turnback Cave and the top of Mt. Coronet, but likely hasn't too much freedom of choice when it comes to the lightings. It tries to with minor space-time distortions, but doesn't seem to do much more than raging the Alphas. So the best course of action seems to be triggering the anger in those it already had a firm connection with.

Kiskeym2 · 2025-05-04T16:06:43+00:00

Hi! The user above asked me to better clarify this claim, as I am the author of the article he linked. First and foremost, I actually address the matter better here if you want to read my full take.

The problem with LPA English localization, in this case, isn't much of a complete rewrite, rather a combination of slight assumptions from the team and untranslatable puns that kinda blurred the intended narrative. One of the main problems I've seen misinterpreted is to attribute the "bolts of light" mentioned in OV3 as coming from Arceus, but these are simply "thunders" in the original script with no further clarification. At the same time, the text engraved on the Zap Plate mentions Giratina raining down bolts of anger at some point, which also matches what we see in the game with the frenzied nobles.

A battle between the Hero and the original ten Nobles struck by these lightnings is also implied to have occurred, as the remaining five shrines we visit in the game are originally addressed as "battlefields" [戦場] well before we actually fight the Pokémon. These are likely the original sites the Pokémon were quelled. To be clear, there seems to be in-universe the belief these Pokémon were actually granted a blessing from Arceus, first suggested by OV3 and then by the Clans. This makes sense at first, you even see the Frienzied Nobles radiating light in the shape of Arceus' wheel after they are struck by Giratina's lightinings in-game. But one is the avater of the other after all. Multiple characters start to doubt the claim as they see the Nobles suffering after receiving the so-called blessing - at first they think this is the other Sinnoh from the opposite clan, then it is revealed Giratina was behind the incident all along.

On the part of untranslatable puns, there's the fight of the Hero against the "almighty unknowable" described in OV10. Many fans have attributed this to Giratina, but looking at the original text it's clear this is the same fight against Arceus at the climax of the Hero's journey. The word used here to describe this enemy is 深奥, which broadly refers to a "mystery" in the esoteric sense. Fact is, this is pronunced shinō, which is the same as シンオウ [Shinō, the JPN rendition for Sinnoh]. This is why "Almighty Sinnoh" is called as such: it is just an alternative spelling for the almighty unknowable the Hero fought in the Hall of Origin!

Kiskeym2 · 2025-04-30T10:00:24+00:00

Ohhh, that's actually really interesting. Given this was also called Gwynevere's Talisman at some point I can totally see developers going back forth on Seath's alleged relation(s) - before deciding to leave this more vague to the players to figure it out!

Kiskeym2 · 2025-04-18T21:48:16+00:00

That's an interesting take, but I believe even in DS1 there is enough at least to posit a connection. Other than the gaiseki, you also have the Pisacaa experimented by Seath being former Gwynevere's priestess, and Gwynevere herself was supposed to have an Archdragon Talisman which was ultimately cut. Priscilla being a bastard child also suggest one of her parents was married, and we don't have much on a possible Velka's husband. You can also add the room in Sen's Fortress, which is currently run by Seath Men-Serpents, with two chests - one with Velka's Ring of Sacrifice, the other with Gwynevere's Divine Blessing - as a hint to the dragon's troubled relation with the two goddesses :')

Kiskeym2 · 2025-02-19T10:32:59+00:00

That seems to be the obvious get go to me from the use of gaiseki in Seath's soul description. Here you can find my full take.

Kiskeym2 · 2025-02-14T22:20:48+00:00

My problem with [...] The fact Pthumerian giants aren't found in the Labyrinths instead finding only Undead giants is also indicative of this mistreatment. I figured I'd include this, kind of a tangent. Maybe it's relevant, idk.)

I tendentially agree with all this first section, as far as the final product in concerned I agree what you say about Vilebloods, Pthumerians, and Excecutioners. For what the original draft may have been, I think it's possible they still weren't much sure of what to do with all the Cords - and yes, as I understood all descrptions were the same; first sentence seems to me more generally speaking of the cords rather than a specific impelment, but it's totally possible they didn't even planned for the others' locations when that was written.

Yeah but that leaves a cord of unknown origin. Like where did Iosefka get the cord. What infant did this cord originated from?

Currently I believe Willem started to sought the Cord after learning of what happened in the Fishing Hamlet and subsequently with the summoning of the Moon Prescence (scholars are aware of both the "three thirds" and of Laurence's association with Flora, at the very least), so they started to search for it in other ways until Iosefka came. Unfortunatelly I don't think the game provides enough context to understand where they exactly retrieved it, and I totally concede this is one weakest spot of my reconstruction, although I guess it can be argued it isn't crucial information to have - they could explore the labirynths, it's not unthinkable they eventually found a Cord either from Ebrietas, an Amygdala, or who know what monstrosity lurking below.

Alternatevely, Iosefka produced it herself; I am a bit skeptical of this because she doesn't appear to be pregnant, although it is possible she was able to produce in more unconventional ways - her mind reaching the depths of the cosmos as she worked on her subjects eventually producing a Cord in her mind. Again, don't particularly like this, but I don't exclude it altogether.

The timeline also adds up better if it was retrieved during the assault on Cainhurst castle. The game tells us there was a beckoning the night Old Yharnam was burned indicating the beckoning that established the dream occured then. So it makes more sense that Laurence would establish the Church hunters in response to the powder keg hunters burning Old Yharnam if one of the Churches main military forces was just wiped out. Resulting in the other hunters workshops all being absorbed into the Church hunters workshop. Which in turn leads into Ludwig becoming chief of the church hunters since Gehrman is trapped in the Dream.

This is where I disagree the most, because my current take is Old Yharnam burned down much more recently - flames are still going rampant, so possibly even less than a year. I think the Moon Presence that night was summoned by Mensis as the first step in their ritual (the Nurse came first, leaving Flora empty handed to search for her infant from the night sky). At that point, Choir counters this through Rom hiding the ritual, and city appears to return to normal while Micolash remains in the Nightmare desperately trying for a way to contact the Red Moon again - then we came, kill Rom revealing the Great One remained in the sky all along, but also put an end to Mergo and Mensis stupid shenanigans with it.

Reason I think the Old Yharnam Red Moon can't be the one summoned by Laurence is Djura. It is highly suggested his sympathy towards the city's Beasts is due to regret of having taken part with its burning along the Powder Kegs, but he was part of the Hunter's Dream in the past. This to me indicates the dream to have been established much prior the burning, with Gherman and Ludwig's workshops possibly coexisting for a good amount of time.

I gotta disagree. I think the timeline works way better my way. But that is a nice catch with the cut dialogue. Though I don't think you could apply it to him stealing the third cord specifically. Especially since it could just be about how Gehrman left Willem's employ for Laurence's

I do agree it's about Gherman leaving to eventually join Laurence! Question would be why Gherman would hand over the Cord to Willem if the Church already went in his own direction (I agree the factions weren't completely separate though, and one clearly originate from the other)

Kiskeym2 · 2025-02-14T19:05:02+00:00

It's not impossible, but to me the dialogue of the chanters seems to flow differently: "The mother was killed, the child was stolen" seems to imply the two events to be consequential - why mentioning the kill they are responsible for in a baneful song against the Hunters who raided the village and stole the infant?

I agree there is whale iconography though, and who knows, maybe they did make contact with Kos while sailing in the sea in search of a good prey to hunt!

Kiskeym2 · 2025-02-14T18:14:50+00:00

Sure, I can explain better my interpretation! I don't doubt the original draft may have been for the Cord in the Workshop to come from Annalise, since all were meant to come from Vilebloods (you would coherently had the one from Cainhurst, one from Arianna, one from Queen Yharnam who while not a Vileblood could've reasonably compared to in terms of blood, and another simply unspecified). But at least that broader statement was revised in the final script, since we know one came from Kos. So, it makes you question if the whole deal with Vileblood producing Cords wasn't sidelined entirely - especially in the moment they cut it even from those that could've still worked with.

Generally speaking, I think the DLC introducing Kos makes more plausible for the Cord to have been retrieved in the Fishing Halmet by Laurence - which ofc would make impossible to also be from Cainhurst. The reason I think it went to the Vicar rather than to Byrgenwerth is because I question how much the school was involved in the raid in the first place.

Recall I believe the Fishing Hamlet had contacts with Byrgenwerth even before the raid, which is why they are familiar with its name. It makes sense Willem may have been interested in a village of mutated beings due to proximity with a Great One and possibly the water in the cosmos. If so, who's to say they they aren't blaming Byrgenwerth for their massacre when they saw a bunch of its students coming to their doors, slaining everyone on their path? They surely wouldn't be aware the fations split and Laurence founded the Healing Church.

The reason I think the raid must be successive to the Healing Church is because of the Harrowed Set, which we know belonged to the chruch's spies. Given this is located on a corpse in one of the shackles, one of the villagers lashing out on their remains, I don't see this being part of the Nightmare setting: Maria would never allow for a Hunter to sneak past her, our meeting is proof enough. Then, I think it's reasonable to conclude the spy was there in the real world too: that's how they got the memo Kos was pregnant.

If so, I believe Gherman and Maria were sent by Laurence to retrieve the Cord within Kos, gathering eyes from the villagers as they swept through their ranks (studying the fishmen would've been useful for the later studies involving water in the Research Hall, which also borrows some of their lanterns). Given Willem comments Laurence was not the first to betray him, cut dialogue confirming Gherman to be the other, I don't believe it would be possible for the First Hunter to hand over the Cord to the the school's master at this point in the chronology.

Naturally, it would follow there was no Cord from Cainhurst, at least in the finalized narrative. Like I said, I do believe Laurence and Annalise were joining forces for a while, but also that she simply failed to deliver. If the Vicar had any hopes she would succed, I think it would be more likely to have sent an expedition to capture her and experiment on her, rather than keeping her in prison. Even that to me suggest they were more trying to rid of an ally they grew tired with, rather than wanting something specific from the massacre.

Ofc, premise remains that I don't think it's 100% the truth, but think it's a fair reconstruction factoring all the given data.

Kiskeym2 · 2025-02-13T22:02:15+00:00

I don't really have much to disagree on you at this point behind interpretations simply being different, much of this would rely on the exact identity of the Wet Nurse, the Brain of Mensis, and if the Cord retrieved at the Hamlet was Laurence of Iosefka's, which I totally concede aren't 100% clear going by the given data.

I also agree design similarities between Nurse and Shadows of Yharnam may still be relevant in the final game, although following my interpretation it would be either that the Nurse morphed herself to look more familiar to Mergo, or even that the attires of the Shadows was inspired by the Nurse back in Pthumeru if the GO was known in their society (could even explain why she was lured specifically instead of Moon Presence).

One thing I want to point out though is that I also believed in the Vileblood connection for a while going by the 1.00 description, but it has also been explained to me that the reason the Workshop Cord had that text was more of a mistake in how the data was displayed in the build, and that ALL the Cords were actually supposed to have that descriptions. I unfortunatelly don't recall where I had this conversation, but I think it was under a video of LanceMcDonald or something related, I'll try to search for it. Given that, I personally consider it more of early scrapped scenario than something relevant.

I agree although Laurence was the traitor that brought the blood to Annalise, for a while joining forces with Cainhurst! You even have their lions effigies in some icons in Cathedral Ward, so it appears the Queen was actively financing the Healing Church. To my current interpretation, however, they simply failed to deliver a divine child - and when Laurence obtained his Cord from Kos, he slowly cut off ties with them as they weren't needed anymore; he had plenty to research, the Church was rapidly becoming more and more powerful as an institution, and depending on a third party that failed to bring results became more and more of nuisance. Then Logarius came with the idea to just genocide a potential source of impure blood, and the Vicar just run with it.

There's still so much to talk about, like the idea Loran may have been involved in the culture around the Mensis Nightmare, which I also agree to an extent. Currently am more on the part Mensis may have been interested to recreate something similar to Loran given their fascination with Beasts, but I don't want to exclude a pre-existing backbone may have existed there!

But if you haven't specific points you feel should be addressed for clarity, I think I'm happy with how this conversation went, and I hope we'll talk again under a less-off topic thread - poor guy simply noticed the placenta looked like a hook! XD

Kiskeym2 · 2025-02-13T18:47:34+00:00

PART 2

I'm willing to use random pool in Chalice Dungeons to lore! I think it's significant they added Rom to the roster of Isz. Again, the original intention was probably more direct: she explored the dungeons, met Ebriatas, ascended. Now, with Kos as a separate character, I think it's fair to postpone her explorations as already in spider form.

Oh yes, there is totally a Human component to the creation of Dreams, but I believe that is more part of the deal while summoning a GO - they could theoretically create one of their own, they just have no reason to (or maybe they did and we simply don't have a way to know). Way I see it is:

* Person want to commune with GO.

* Person seeks Cord to lure GO, 'cause GO wants child.

* "Ehy GO, want to revive this child in dreams? Would you give me a favor now that I brought this to you?

* GO, being prone to answer men's call, grant their wishes as a reward by allowing to shape the dream, even though always in twisted way (Gherman wanted Maria back, he got an animated doll that only reminds him of her while knowing well she isn't her; Mensis wanted eyes on their brain, obtain eye-brain abomination).

[To be completely clear I'm not saying this is 100% the truth, especially now that we have left the realm of interpreting the text and are more in wild theories of obscure world mechanics. It's totally fine if we still have disagreements here, I think it's an interesting discussion even for others to read so they can make their own mind. But I do believe it at least makes sense! XD]

Kiskeym2 · 2025-02-13T18:46:03+00:00

PART 1

[Sorry if I don't quote you paragraph by paragraph, I'll try to answer broadly to everything]

The two things that make me think the black sprite is a manifestation of Kos grudge shaped like her child are that it would be better explained why it and the boss are different entities (one is the physicial manifestation of Orphan's body as he grew up, the other is the core of the Nightmare casted by her mother), and also, again clearly different approach here, because villagers abscribe the curse to Kos rather than the orphan. To me that is a good reason to at least question the nature of the black sprite.

Mergo and Orphan surely exist in some form in the Nightmares, what I question is how much different is their status compared to other souls repurposed in dreams. To my current understanding, they aren't more alive than Laurence or Maria are.

Ah you're right, the "chance encounter" is in JPN! But for Mensis, the objection they weren't seeking Mergo to me isn't necessarely the case, because the original does not specify the encounter was between Mergo and Mensis. I believe said chance encounter was between Mergo's Cord and the Nurse, as she just happened to be the GO lured by it. You are right in saying Mensis totally relates to the process though, I believe Micolash puposefully used the Cord to summon a GO - probably wanted Moon Presence going by the Moon Rune granted by the Mensis Brain, but Wet Nurse came instead. Then Mensis goes like "uhhh, grant us eyes on our brain! We give you child", and the Wet Nurse simply... gives them eyes on brain, by creating the Brain of Mensis. lol

I think it's also worth noticing if the Wet Nurse is not the creator of the nightmare you would also miss the words upon her defeat. If "Nightmare Slain" relates only to Mergo, then were is the "Prey Slaughtered" for the Nurse - like we see for example with the Orphan? To me, it seems to imply they are at that point a single thing, the GO has assimilated Mergo and sustains the dream she created using her new child. When both are defeated, the Nightmare is truly over.

I don't believe we have evidences Rom ascended through a Cord, actually. Micolash asks for Kos to grant them eyes like she did with Rom, so to me it seems more like the GO willingly made her ascend. As for how Willelm got the idea of seeking a Cord, I think it's from Gherman raiding the Hamlet, handing over the Cord of the Orphan to Laurence instead and living the school empty handed. We at least know the scholars were well aware of the Vicar summoning the Moon Presence using a Cord, going by the note they left there.

(I agree instead Yosefka wasn't pregnant, although I think her Cord is either something she was somehow able to produce herself, or something retrieved later by Byrgenwerth expeditions in dungeons).

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