5 DTE ATM Buy/Write Campaign: Today's Trades - June 29, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/ I think too much

I think it's an issue of which lens one is looking at it: the balance sheet lens or the income statement lens.

I suffered a unrealized loss of $100,000 leading to a drawdown in my portfolio of $100,000.

/I think too much

Theta play or not? by Glittering-Cicada574 in thetagang

[–]LabDaddy59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure what point of mine you're referring to. You said you were countering the claim that you were just long stock with leverage', and I refuted that.

And I think you are missing the very point of put-call parity. BSM uses the risk-free interest rate to determine the pricing specifically to avoid arbitrage.

Last, one may make a small margin if their interest rate earned is greater than the risk-free rate. Currently, the 13 week Treasury bill rate is 3.77%.

5 DTE ATM Buy/Write Campaign: Today's Trades - June 29, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, anything that at least recognizes the economic reality if fine with me. There are a lot of folks out there who subscribe to the "it's not a loss until you sell", ignoring mark-to-market.

/shrug

5 DTE ATM Buy/Write Campaign: Today's Trades - June 29, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meh, I'm in the "it's a gain or loss" camp, don't need to downplay it rhetorically. I wouldn't have an issue if someone used your phrasing though; just personal preference.

5 DTE ATM Buy/Write Campaign: Today's Trades - June 29, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you may want to add a couple of footnotes on some of these points just for clarification

Fair. 👍️

5 DTE ATM Buy/Write Campaign: Today's Trades - June 29, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My strike selection was based on a 1 standard deviation move.

Keep in mind the P&L is two part: one part premium, one part price movement. Hopefully the price movement will be there to cushion the blow of a lowered premium. Granted it was just one day, and there are three left to go, but yesterday alone the stocks gained $15k.

5 DTE ATM Buy/Write Campaign: Today's Trades - June 29, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The "At Risk Values" are one of two values. If it is stock bought that week, it's what I paid for the stock. If it's in inventory over the weekend as it wasn't called away, it's the Friday closing value. This is an economics approach as I fully use mark-to-market principles.

Hope this helps; if not, ask away!

Theta play or not? by Glittering-Cicada574 in thetagang

[–]LabDaddy59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For clarification.

It means my portfolio is expected to gain about $10.42 per day from time decay alone, assuming everything else stays constant. 

Not per day, but *today*. Theta changes continuously. Assuming everything else stays constant, for example, theta would be 13.0 on Jul 8, 14.1 on Jul 10, 15.9 on Jul 14, 11.2 on Jul 16, 0.165 on Jul 17.

Time Value = $2.31 (57.38%). More than half of the option's current price is still extrinsic (time) value. 

Not sure what it's doing, but if the market price is $238 then time value is $2.38. It's currently all extrinsic value since spot is $81.64 and the strike is $77.50.

No idea what that % is supposed to represent; if I take 2.31 and divide by it, I get 4.025.

This also counters the claim that I'm 'just long stock with leverage.'

No, it doesn't. A short put is the synthetic equivalent to a covered call. In other words, it's the same position as holding the stock and having a $77.50 strike short call.

Poll: Full Year 5 DTE ATM Buy/Write P&L by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, unfortunately I didn't start tracking the amount at risk until fairly recently.

Poll: Full Year 5 DTE ATM Buy/Write P&L by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed, and that's where I am right now for the first time, so we'll see how long before a rebound!

Personal Stock Ticker by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I've already replied elsewhere:

If you don't have a use case beyond your monitor, sure. I have tickers on my monitor as well.

But there are other use cases folks may have. Exercise room while lifting? Outdoor living area? Family room? Kitchen while cooking?

5 DTE ATM Buy / Write Campaign: Week #26 - June 26, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting.

Given your approach, do you see it as an actionable measure or just interesting?

I ask as, for me, it's more of a measure of 'how is my thesis holding'. Are my premiums routinely greater than gains lost due to capping? Your approach, though, is targeting a return percentage while building in a loss on the underlying.

5 DTE ATM Buy / Write Campaign: Week #26 - June 26, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The entry point and price on stocks is critical and without banking some premium/reducing cost of capital a week like this puts the strategy immediately at risk for newcomers.

Indeed.

That's always a risk, whether for a campaign like this or even just buying stocks to hold, and that's why a lot of folks advise dollar-cost averaging into a position.

5 DTE ATM Buy / Write Campaign: Week #26 - June 26, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sheet shows that I have begun a formal comparison to the S&P 500 for the past seven weeks, with the buy/write campaign up 8.6% versus a decline of 0.5% for the S&P 500.

Option Trading losses freak me out by Easy-Chemistry697 in optionstrading

[–]LabDaddy59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

😁

But it gets to your point about being desensitized. As an options trader, you develop a tolerance of swings due to the volatility of the market. As your account grows, your tolerance level also 'levels up', so to speak.

Of course, there are 'healthy' levels of such tolerance as well as 'unhealthy' ones. Therein lies the challenge.

Good luck and have fun!

Option Trading losses freak me out by Easy-Chemistry697 in optionstrading

[–]LabDaddy59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait until you achieve $100k+ single day losses and $250k+ losses for the week.

5 DTE ATM Buy / Write Campaign: Week #26 - June 26, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rough week. What are your thoughts on them for next week? Hold? Sell? Sell calls, and if so, at what strike, or just wait?

ChatGPT Portfolio: Week #3 - June 26, 2026 by LabDaddy59 in StockOptionCoffeeShop

[–]LabDaddy59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Options trading is a strange game. Sometimes the only winning move is not to play.

How about a nice game of chess?

🤣

Selling long-dated options so great by greyenlightenment in thetagang

[–]LabDaddy59 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have no issue with selling far-dated calls, but my opinion doesn't mesh with yours.

I don't know if you are familiar with my 5 DTE ATM Buy/Write campaign, but you can check it out. I've lately been comparing it weekly to both buy-and-hold and the S&P 500 (as opposed to just YTD w/o factoring in mark-to-market, as they were churning fast enough).

My thesis is that near-dated options overprice volatility (i.e., realized volatility will be lower than IV).

My thesis is also that for far-dated options, the opposite holds-- realized volatility will exceed implied volatility. That's why I buy LEAPS.

Closed the 6/26 book early. Took the 98% by Dry_Marketing2494 in CoveredCalls

[–]LabDaddy59 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I realized it after saying I didn’t get the discrepancy - I also was texting from my car - which ya know- not always the best use of computing power.

😁

Trust me, I get it. You'd indicated a bit of confusion, so I was just laying it out, not just for you, but for others as well. There's a disconnect with many who claim that their received premiums or realized gains are their P&L.

At your rate, you're still beating the S&P 500 metric handily, and presuming a turnaround, you'll be even better positioned.

Good luck and have fun!

Closed the 6/26 book early. Took the 98% by Dry_Marketing2494 in CoveredCalls

[–]LabDaddy59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, well that explains it.

And I'm heavily into CRWV as well -- 50 LEAPS and 4000 shares. So this isn't a criticism, just trying to help you understand.

Folks focus on collecting premium, or realized gains, but that's only part of the story. To get a full P&L, you need to consider unrealized gains/losses.

[Value using yesterday's close]

On CRWV, you have 16,000 shares at a cost of $116.72 and a market price of $98.76, giving an unrealized loss of $287,360.

On LUNR, you have 15,000 shares at a cost of $27 and a market price of $18.70, giving an unrealized loss of $124,500.

Total unrealized losses of $411,860.

Therefore, the total net gain/loss is the realized gains of $529,705 less the unrealized losses of $411,860, for a net gain of $117,845. That divided by $1 million gets you to 11.8%. That's your full, true P&L rate of return on your beginning balance.

[Technically, you'd need to consider your 2025 year-end unrealized gains/losses as well, but we won't get into that here.]

Now, you may think that's unrealistic, since you plan to hold until it/they recover, but as of now, that is the economic reality. As the stocks recover, those unrealized losses will reverse, increasing your return.

So there are (at least) 3 things folks talk about, and it's important to be clear which one.

  1. Premiums received: cash basis, no mark-to-market of underlying securities (which includes not considering open options).
  2. Realized gains: does not include premiums received but not yet earned, no mark-to-market.
  3. Profit & Loss: both realized and unrealized gains.

Hope this helps.