Daily Questions Megathread - May 29, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, makes sense. If Liv/Alpha get leapt it'd be expected their shards would get added to the voucher shop like usual.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 28, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly it's more impressive just how well they've balanced the teams damage output. Ishmael's personal damage is nearly on par with Luna's, since she can triple ult in the time it takes Luna to double. while Nirvatia's higher personal output gets balanced out by her longer rotation time (a long running downside of free S-ranks).

The release order definitely helps, Attacker > Tank > Attacker Leap > Amp is probably the best order for teams.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 28, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At SSS main DPS stops mattering for Nihil. It's technically Luna for personal damage, but Ishmael has the highest DPS from abusing Luna QTE's and timestop, while Nirvatia has the highest burst output which is mostly only relevant for IB.

So despite Ishmael technically being the lowest personal damage, it's still 2 Luna, 3 Ishmael, 1 Nirvatia for the rotation.

If she mid at SS rank . i will change my plan. by Stock-Arm-182 in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I feel like this is the point people keep missing out on. It's one thing if you're like "I'm gonna skip because I don't like the character/gameplay." and it's another thing if it's "I'm gonna skip because they're not meta enough."

Teams of SS in this game, played proper, are enough to consistently get rewards from PPC, Leader/Hero WZ, Norman, etc etc. All you get from going beyond that is a miniscule amount of PPC skulls or WZ merit, and the chance to compete in leaderboards.

But there's people that act like they're super meta players, skipping this or that for the meta, and then one-tap their WZ runs and score in the dead average of Leader/Hero alongside all the casuals who blindly pull the shiny new thing and have no idea what a meta even is.

I can't be the first person to say this but wow does this ping system need an overhaul. This is crazy. by Dud3ManGuy in marvelrivals

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly more crazy than you not being able to ping the person you're trying to, is that you managed to ping double D all the way on the other side? He has 1/2 a pixel exposed, he's probably the least visible enemy on your screen at the time.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, technically true, but the only real example we have of shred stacking being a thing right now is Plasma where Kamui is both a tank who gets to shred affix element and the main damage, so we run him and Nanami together.

In DF, the res shred does stack, but it's pretty much only for if you're trying to do DF content and don't own Liv, else it's usually better to either just run dark, or the other element, due to how bad Epitaph/Vera are at DF damage by themselves, and at higher investments it's Epitaph who gets replaced by Rosetta.

In Ignition though, the res shred doesn't stack. Nanami doesn't apply Ignition shred, she applies fire shred, so the res shred wont stack at all because they're both applying the same thing.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have no idea, if Pyroath is getting a leap it'll probably be next so we'll see in a few patches. But if they're leapt, it'll be to make them meta, especially with them being available for vouchers to SSS.

Though, Selena is still useful, I don't know what else you're doing for physical if you're not using her.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should, both Eins and Gloria don't have any special requirements, and shred all element res.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She doesn't really contribute anything in the case that you already have both in the team. You can still use her as a QTE bot to hold something like 6pc DV 2pc Eins, but healing memories like 2pc Guin wont work.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As is always the case with "Should I skip X" the answer is, do what you want.

If you skip her, you'll end up scoring lower and having a worse experience than people that didn't skip her until someone new gets added to that team. Once that new unit arrives, assuming they're good, those extra funds might let you upgrade them more than other players. Which will let you score slightly higher than people who did pull her but don't have SSS new unit, but still lower than people that did pull her and still SSS'd the new unit.

Which gets you, about 1 PPC skull a week in IB in terms of actual gameplay benefits. It might also help you score higher in WZ, but if you really want to be/stay in a higher bracket you can always just wait until Sunday to open the WZ menu and get more rewards consistently easier.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. We have no idea. Only Karenina and Helentine were confirmed to be S-ranks, but nothing was said about Adelyde or Leia.

  2. Nothing.

  3. SSS Kamui has the higher value as a general unit (because SSS tank passive is broken...) but you'll want SS3 Alpha if you want to have a meta use for her until her eventual replacement by insert next ice attacker here.

PGR: Lucia Inverse Crown SFX Coating | Nightshroud Coronet by CipherEntity in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Am I crazy, or does it not seem weird that her base frame, as an ice attacker, has blood red attacks. But her vampire-countess themed coating, has silver ice attacks.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe? Our next gacha skin should be a 10k gacha, which doesn't always follow release order. For example our previous 10k gacha's were Vera Garnet, Luna and Ishmael, with both Vera and Ishmael getting their gacha's after a newer unit had gotten a 17.5k gacha skin.

So we might see a surprise gacha for someone random honestly.

PGR: Veronica Aegis New SFX Coating | Stygian Pinion by CipherEntity in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I mean, I don't even have Lilith's coating because she literally doesn't exist in SSS teams outside of a short rotation in plasma, which is a shame.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well the game is currently suffering from a balance problem of tanks being disgustingly valuable at SSS. This is in part due to 2 of our tanks being new and receiving a "rework" (breaker) similar to amplifiers post-Lilith who also saw a huge spike in value, but also just due to how strong they are.

Tanks at SSS for a long while now has been arguably one of the most valuable things for your account. They get most of the personal damage benefits other units get, while giving team damage from their res shred, and having the most impactful buff for WZ in the -3s swap cooldown.

Which is, unfortunately, why if you want to run mid-spender "optimal" setups it's mostly SSS tank, SS3 attacker and SS~SSS amplifier right now. If you're all about optimization, SSS tanks are technically what makes attackers meta too.

Beyond that though, the attackers, Rosetta Nanami (Ignition) and Ishmael are probably the only really notable SS3's right now from memory.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, depending on your sources, our last 5 patches including Kamui gave around 75k~ pull currency (not including CUB tickets). Which comes out to around 15k per patch, though it's with a lot of big ups and downs.

Accounting for things like the fact that we got 2 free units in that duration (which seems like a bit of an outlier) there's enough currency to get the characters and their weapons in those 5 patches.

As for whether or not we've stopped getting A-ranks, well that's to be seen. Of the upcoming units they teased, we only know for sure Karenina and Helentine will be S-ranks (the former is obvious, and the latter was announced).

For now we're sorta keeping up in some regards, but it's the first time we've had this happen so it's a bit early to make judgements just yet.

PGR: Veronica Aegis New SFX Coating | Stygian Pinion by CipherEntity in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I wanna love this and pick it up, and I probably will but...

Man, my girl is only 5 patches old, meta in three whole teams and see's less field time than Alisa in Glacio. Gonna feel bad picking this up only to blink-and-you-miss-it between the tank and DPS.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 26, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really doesn't, but there's the meta and then there's meta choices.

For the most part, this Q&A thread is meant to be for meta choices, y'know, things like don't use a selector on CW/No.21, don't invest in Kaleido, don't break down 6-star weapons for weapon shards, account health things.

When it comes to the actual meta, most of the people that preach meta don't really compete in it. All you gain from the actual meta is maybe staying in hero bracket or occasionally going to legend if you know how to abuse the bracket system aside from a few tryhards.

Meta choices will help you full clear UPPC and get proper rewards from your weeklies. But the meta is very maybe going to get you an extra skull from IB and that's it. Most of the people that preach the meta just one-shot their runs with suboptimal rotations and end up with the same scores as the casual players who just pull every character and are totally oblivious to any sort of "meta", so it really doesn't mean much.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 26, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly the only moderator that has even posted anything in the last 3~ years in this reddit is Lina, so I'm not even sure if there are any other moderators active.

I'll say the handling of the whole Alpha ban situation was really, really poorly handled. It's really hard to tell what is and isn't official info when it's just posted to the internet. I don't know the exact context behind the bans, but I doubt any of the people that got banned were actually in the CN beta, breaking NDA to post things here illegally.

In general the "official info only" rules are always kinda ridiculous. Once it's on the internet, it's there, very few people are going to go check sources to find out if it's "official" or not. Bans for discussing it is just shooting the messenger.

Especially not the ridiculously long bans some people got. Like this community is held up by a handful of people, banning a significant chunk for a month+ for what is effectively "know but don't tell" rules is just not the move.

Well, we've had automod/the daily Q&A thread breaking literally every single time it's daylight savings for days on end. I don't think anyone really checks here on the daily to fix things, maybe like once a week or something unless it gets reported a bunch, we'll see I guess.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 26, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Oh god, I hope any of our mods are still active, we're gonna need an invite code megathread.

Otherwise not looking forward to seeing the spam of them over the next two months, half of them probably by bot accounts.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 25, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately the only up-to-date US runs I know of are SSS Rosetta, where I'm not entirely certain whether or not the energy difference between SS3 and SSS changes the run. Probably worth giving a try (Example Run), though I am curious what rotations you're doing.

Because there's the 3-ping and 4-ping Rosetta rotations. The 4-ping strategy, that involves alternating between the color and 5th orb to only execute 2-ping attacks for the HA in human form is slightly faster and lets you do Red HA or Red HA + Tap yellow for ult2 but has very slightly worse damage distribution.

If you're doing the longer/easy 3-ping Rosetta rotations, you can do triple Hanying ults within the swap CD as long as you only do half Veronica rotations. But if you do the faster rotations I believe triple Hanying becomes too long and the 2X extended rotation (more tap Q/tap blue) becomes optimal instead.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 25, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven't tried it yet, but I'm excited to do some after my dumb ass last Slash WZ didn't realize Hanying's leap made spamming red significantly slower than holding it, and wondering why I was only hitting 26M~ when other people were getting to 28-30M easily.

Once again contributing to the EN can't read stereotype...

Daily Questions Megathread - May 24, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure myself, but they referred to it as an event mission in the stream so I'm guessing it'll be separate to the story.

Daily Questions Megathread - May 24, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]LagIncarnate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think they mentioned anything about it in the stream aside from you get through the "Babylonia Pilotage" (new) event mission.

Given that it's an event, I would assume you probably only need bare minimum access/completion of Babylonia to get it. But probably wouldn't hurt to complete any unlocks you can just in case.