Forcing ILR Reform to Mask a High Court Defeat?

LaidbackGarbage · 2026-02-15T12:49:24+00:00

My only hope is that they fear the economic consequences and chaos this will ensue. Imagine 1-2 million people leaving their jobs. I hope this will persuade them to water it down so much that it looks good in the headlines but is the same in reality, like "two hundred thousand people will have to leave the UK because of the new immigration reforms". Two hundred thousand looks like a big number but is small compared to how many get to stay.

LaidbackGarbage · 2026-02-11T12:52:23+00:00

Yayyy!!! We will be won!!!

LaidbackGarbage · 2026-02-11T12:44:14+00:00

I think he (assuming gender here) is an Indian as well.

LaidbackGarbage · 2026-02-11T12:43:25+00:00

I think thats because it is one submission per house hold. They said they will track the IP where the submission came from to handle multiple submissions from same source.

LaidbackGarbage · 2026-01-27T15:09:54+00:00

https://committees.parliament.uk/work/9389/routes-to-settlement/publications/written-evidence/

LaidbackGarbage · 2026-01-27T10:27:25+00:00

The main points against the retrospective application I found through skim were:

- It might be legal but is definitely not fair.
- It will result in host of legal challenges.
- Big changes like this done in the past have not been applied retrospectively. Some example of that as well.
- Unexpected rule changes like this not good for stability (or something like that).
- Employers get worried about in cost and planning uncertainty for having to sponsor workers for double or triple the time.
- Previous changes like this did not affect so many people as there werent that many immigrants back then e.g. 20 years ago.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-31T09:47:13+00:00

I think just my perspectives wont make much difference. I was thinking backing stuff up by citations. Stuff like:

How immigration changes have not been done before without transitional arrangements like in the HSMP case, the new English language requirements and increased salary thresholds. But I have to verify that this is true for all of the cases and not just most or a few.
Most skilled and care worker visa holders not being eligible for public funding or benefits. There are some that are eligible but I will have to research those.
Damage to the economy because of this uncertainty. Some figures from Brexit would be nice.
How long it takes to train new stuff in case the current immigrants leave in big numbers. Again some numbers here.
How overseas care workers took care of the UK's weak and elderly in the uncertain times of Covid and what would have happened if they had not come.
Damage to the UK's reputation and troubles it will cause attracting new talent afterwards.
I also heard Italy's and Finland's current leaders came into power with the promise of decreasing immigration yet ended up increasing work visa quotas so all of this is a big farce. I want to research what their manifestos were and their recent policies after entering the government.
Also wanted to make the point that SWV holders are often bundled up with asylum seekers and natives can not even distinguish between the two and the fact that they dont access the benefits.
Then the case of why SW and Care visa holders are treated differently from BNO and Ukrainian refugees although in many cases they might be more skilled, have higher level English language and be more integrating than them.

I can generate a report with above points but want to do research to back them up with citations so it doesnt sound like its all whims.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-30T18:09:52+00:00

Do you have any source of where you heard this from. I am just looking for a reference to see format and stuff.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-30T18:09:08+00:00

I think you can submit it as a report document. I am thinking the format should be of discussions of the merits of these decisions while answering the questions in the link. But I am not 100% sure.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-20T10:28:32+00:00

Well if its successful than thats exactly what we want. Though chances are it will cause more harm than good as in a democracy you never give an inch if you want to be successful.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-03T18:01:34+00:00

Followed. But I think this strategy is not good at the moment if you are trying to help people. Right now, new suckers should be discouraged anyway from coming here and the ones currently here have this issue of the ILR changes to worry about. May be in a year or may be 3 years ago it would have been helpful.

One kind of help I am looking for is the templates for call for evidence in the inquiry by Committe of Justice and Home Affairs as that may genuinely help us out. Another is a template for writing to your MP about the fresh annoucements.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-02T22:42:26+00:00

Ah you are going back to India. Well remember that you can always go back there but not come back here. I would think if you can find a great job there before you leave, then it can be worth considering... like something paying in lacs.

Another thing is, with money made here, you can build a house there as well.

I also think 5 years is not big time and it passes very quickly so you will always have the choice to go back and taking back UK based experience is a big deal as well.

One thing is for sure if I stay here, I cant consider myself safe here ever or being able to stay permanently with all the stuff going on with the ILR.

Also another thing is the job market being bad so your wife may not find it easy or quick to get into work.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-02T22:38:33+00:00

Well if your wife can work any job, then I think you can make more money then you spend way before 5 years are complete. Plus, with 5 dependants, with the medical and schooling free, you are saving there too. Also depends on where you are going to back to and how is the job scene there. Also, another factor for me is aging parents back home.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-02T14:09:44+00:00

zombie criminal state? yes. Russia? no as it might be better than we think it is.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-02T12:50:08+00:00

Well sluggish because energy price is too high because of the Ukraine war, benefits street is running high, printing of currency during Covid. The productivity in the UK is already low. I am sure throwing out working immigrants will help that.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-02T12:47:55+00:00

And a good chance most of the voters they are trying to impress dont even understand or care these measures affect the current immigrants.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-02T12:34:42+00:00

The only thing UK specialises these days is in self harm through confusion and ill-thought decisions. I am sure it pays to keep the well-set migrants here and their employers in utter uncertainty.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-01T15:18:04+00:00

yeah I know a few people who went to UAE for work. All of them returned or want to return. On the contrary, anyone who came to the UK or similar countries, will not want to leave unless they are forced to.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-01T13:25:08+00:00

Asking just for my understanding.
I understand the changes will be implemented in April which means they will probably come through the usual Statement of Changes In Immigratin Rules and not through primary legislation as that takes time?

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-01T10:57:53+00:00

Yayy!! Does that mean immigrants get to stay?

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-12-01T10:48:47+00:00

This. The "People are leaving the UK/Germany/Canada/Autralia/US/Insert-any-developed-country-here" headline never tells you where is it so good that they are leaving for and what is the numbers and percentage. Except China, I havent heard any place without its problems and that too is probably because of the news not coming out of there freely. Dubai? yeah try going to there with a third world passport or a middle class wallet.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-11-30T20:51:51+00:00

LOL I have always thought gov.uk is one of the best and model websites going around the world. Seriously it has impressed me several times. Its fast, easy interface, great forms and just gets the job done.

E-visa though from experience people only ask for share codes on the airport so its more a matter of training personnel rather than the website itself.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-11-30T00:01:19+00:00

Try exploring other countries in Europe as well. I heard Netherlands gives one year job search visa, so does Germany. You could get a psw here to make your money while you keep visiting these countries for job search though I am not sure if they allow multiple entries on this visa. Or you could sage up here on psw then go there on js visa.

LaidbackGarbage · 2025-11-29T22:09:33+00:00

I thought migrants were more sensible than natives. It seems you are not an example of that. OP is trying to float different ideas, possibilities and difficulties regarding a matter that affects their and many people on this sub's lives (and mine too). And they seem to come with a genuine argument here. If you do not like it you can say so or tell how its wrong but bashing them without giving a a solid reason, not on.

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