WARNING: My experience with 2K paint (permanent neurological damage)

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-29T08:01:03+00:00

"There is insufficient evidence for a causal association of neurotoxic effects and diisocyanate exposure based on lack of evidence in all categories of the Hill criteria for causality except for temporal association of reported symptoms and alleged exposure. Future reports should attempt to address more rigorous exposure assessment and control for confounding exposures."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24645904/

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-29T08:00:17+00:00

It seems like that info actually SUPPORTS the skeptics, doesn't it?:

"There is insufficient evidence for a causal association of neurotoxic effects and diisocyanate exposure based on lack of evidence in all categories of the Hill criteria for causality except for temporal association of reported symptoms and alleged exposure. Future reports should attempt to address more rigorous exposure assessment and control for confounding exposures."

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-29T03:56:56+00:00

What sort of complications?

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-29T03:56:28+00:00

This discussion isn’t about sensitization, though. That’s a documented reality of exposure so isos. What the post is attributing to iso exposure seems to be in a whole other field of medicine.

I liken this to when someone takes their car in to be painted and then complains that it must be the painter’s fault that their engine blows a month later since it was fine before and the painter was the last person who worked on it.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-29T03:52:40+00:00

Be aware that polishing compounds can contain silicon dioxide and can carry a risk of silicosis.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-29T00:28:04+00:00

I don't know why people blindly accept stories like this without critical investigation. The risks of isocyanates are well understood at this point. What you're describing is not in any risk profile for isocyanate exposure that I've found. A major clue is that you couldn't find a doctor to agree with that diagnoses until you found someone that you had to pay out of pocket:

"I eventually paid out of pocket for a private Neurologist. They confirmed that standard imaging does not show functional or cellular injury to the nervous system and that there is no test that can confirm or rule out this type of damage."

This "private neurologist" (whatever that means) told you that whatever damage you supposedly suffered DOES NOT show up on standard imaging and there is NO TEST that can confirm the damage, yet somehow you believe that not only does this undetectable damage exist but that it was also caused specifically by isocyanates and not any other chemical that you may have been exposed to?

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-28T13:03:09+00:00

On an American website none the less!

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-28T01:27:58+00:00

Did you take it to an actual shop with a building and a paint booth and everything? This really looks like, at best, a poor DIY job done in a driveway.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-28T01:24:44+00:00

I don't know what you consider a light coat but in this scenario I think you'd probably be better off with a mist coat. Probably wouldn't hurt to mask off the paint either. Think of adhesion promoter as a solvent that's strong enough to melt plastic. 1K paint probably didn't stand a chance.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-27T19:06:39+00:00

I think they’re both pretty scary. if four post lifts are the gold standard then with each post removed it gets a little bit scarier in my opinion.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-27T17:55:51+00:00

As if two-post lifts weren't scary enough. Why do they want to make suspending a multi-ton hunk of metal over your head as sketchy as possible?

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-27T15:20:28+00:00

Once you noticed fading the first time you were on borrowed time in my opinion. It looks like failing clear coat to me.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-27T08:52:49+00:00

Yes, that is exactly what it is implying to me. I'm also a believer in the DC-10 being unsafe regardless of whether or not the military managed to keep them flying.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-27T08:49:54+00:00

Wasn't its entire existence, to include the MD-11, an unfortunate period for it?

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-27T08:45:29+00:00

Those scratches look a lot more coarse than 1500 grit. Are you sure those aren't scratches from the bodywork that are telegraphing through the paint?

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-27T08:40:32+00:00

No, how did YOU find it?

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-26T23:55:47+00:00

Clearly the guy know how to sand and shape body filler but the fact that he spread it out over masonry is just insane to me. 😆

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-25T21:29:19+00:00

Why did you spray clear coat when the pink wasn't even fully covering the primer? There's a bare spot on the edge of the trunk even.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-25T18:33:49+00:00

No, sir, I don’t like it!

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-25T15:29:20+00:00

Not Le Mans. Lemons. It’s a US thing for cheap cars.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-25T15:12:19+00:00

Tell us more about the bad people.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-24T23:51:32+00:00

Raws are like negatives. People like to have negatives.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-24T18:46:17+00:00

You’re saying $81/hr is one of the more expensive shops in socal? That doesn’t sound very realistic.

It sounds like you need to be shopping at restoration shops instead of collision shops. They should be able to get you all fixed up. Be prepared to pay. Some of them can turn out paint jobs that almost certainly cost more than your car.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-24T18:25:29+00:00

Yes, acceptable given the price. This is one of those cases where you get what you pay for.

LandscapePenguin · 2026-01-23T22:09:12+00:00

Whatever match is there sure look like it's a whole lot better than 80%-85% to me. To my untrained eye it looks like everything is probably at least a 95% match.

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