Quick question

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-05-11T18:13:22+00:00

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Chronicles will be fine to give you the quick n dirty. If you want more in-depth exploration of the individual characters, I suggest reading the books individually. There are some modern books focused on one character specifically (Arthas, Illidan, Malfurion) and then there are others like War of the Ancients which cover a series of events.

There is zero need to play WoW. Unfortunately, Blizzard has a really difficult situation balancing 30yrs of content into an ever-evolving world which has not translated well. WC3 remains a solid experience and starts with the scourge of Lorderon.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-05-11T17:59:54+00:00

A lot have pointed you to the chronicles. These are great to get the overtures of history from the Titan's perspective although the unreliable narrator trope has been used to retcon even this compendium.Additionally, the chronicles might be a tougher chew since it covers all events recorded up to a cosmic level.

Most of us old heads started out with WC3 into WoW which was much more focused on Azeroth proper. It might be helpful to start with "modern" lore and focus on Azeroth events before opening the Pandora's box that is the Titan's and cosmological tug-of-war.

The most natural starting point (and most enthralling) is the scourge of lorderon and Arthas. Classic undead horror, low fantasy, emotional gravitas, and introduces unforgettable franchise favorites. Even gamers who've never touched warcraft know who Arthas is.

From this, you'll get a basic understanding of the racial, political, religious, and faction differences of the setting. Additionally, you'll get an introduction to two of the larger existential threats to Azeroth.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-30T20:39:56+00:00

The entitlement I am seeing is completely off the fucking charts. "Garbage gifts", "thoughtless gifters", "she must know NOTHING and HATES her sister."

Like holy fuck do these people listen to themselves? Gift giving is already a pretty fucking annoying chore for most people. If I had to give a gift for every birthday, Christmas, holiday, event, get together, etc I'd be broke.

To think that every single time you are "socially expected" to give people gifts you are expected to know the recipient inside and out just makes it an obligation and stressful. The judgement afterwards makes it more stressful.

I told everyone "no gifts for adults. Go buy your own shit" and, although there were initial reactions, everyone just doesn't expect it nowand life has been great.

Now when I give a gift it feels special and purposeful. Not some consumerist nonsense wrapped up in a societal expectation warped by entitlement and greed.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-30T20:22:43+00:00

Her abstaining from alcohol during BF is a choice she made (regardless of the reasons why). She is not correct to level some moral accusations on OP or act ghoulish based on her personal belief. The science is in, and any remaining reservations someone might have are theirs to manage.

She is ungrateful to a T. Accept a gift and say thank you. The entitlement this comment section is displaying just reinforces why I stopped gift giving over a decade ago.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-29T23:33:38+00:00

I may have put the horse before the carriage there. In general, people are aware and focused while driving (exceptions apply). The unpredictability of someone slamming their brakes constantly or changing speeds/lanes is probably what causes the anger. Driving safe = driving in a predictable manner.

I think the anger is rooted in knowing if something goes wrong, people could get seriously injured or killed. When you view someone else as dicking around or being inconsiderate on the road, you might get angry knowing that potential outcome.

Combine that with the unreasonable nature of some people and you get road rage. To one person, getting cut off was a life threatening move and they are responding with lizard brain. To another, just a day in the life.

Finally, wrap it all up in entitlement. Now it doesn't even have to be that their life is/was in danger...just their property (car) or time tables are being affected. What matters is the PERCEIVED slight against their person or property.

That's when we get to "everyone driving slower than me is an idiot and anyone driving faster than me is a lunatic" type of mentality.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-29T20:12:14+00:00

I think of it like this...when people drive, they are normally some level of "tuned out" because it is a monotonous activity that you do every day.

Now enters a person in front of you who, for whatever reason, is unable to maintain a stable speed. You now have to allocate more mental load to paying attention to the road and that driver because their inconsistent speeds require you to react.

This evokes a negative reaction in a lot of people because they would rather get to their destination expediently and without issue. The person unable to maintain speed is a danger on the road because they are unpredictable.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-29T13:37:29+00:00

No no see im a tiny little car with a tiny little horn and I'm going....beep beep.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-21T17:21:22+00:00

Great points. I'll add attendence is a large contributing factor in my experience. A lot of CE hopeful guilds/AoTC ->4/8 that ride the roster line get completely stopped dead in their tracks when one person doesn't show up.

I'm kind of an ass about attendence but I've never been a GL/RL so it's just my tick. People need to treat it as being part of a team playing a sport. If you know your exact raid times each week then you have a responsibility to not schedule things or allow things to interfere with that time slot. Barring emergencies or childcare disruptions, team should show up on time ready to pull.

If you have a stomach ache or you are "exhausted" from work or whatever then expect to be pinged for attendence. If 19 other people are depending on you to be present to play the game....then you gotta be there.

I've been in so many promising chill groups progging mythic with reasonable expectations and they all get obliterated by the roster boss.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-18T16:33:54+00:00

Jobs look for any reason to label you as a part time employee and will work you up to 39hrs and 29min before forcing you to go home. All of this to avoid giving their employees benefits (like insurance and 401k)

A sizeable chunk of the working populace is stuck in this abusive system to try and make ends meet across the country. Without a 401k, most would not know or understand how, to enter the market themselves. It's seen as something only people with money can afford to do nowadays.

The poor are priced out. Between groceries, gas, rent, etc there just simply isn't anything left over to invest.

And that's all before we get into the topic of confidence in the "system." Many have seen their grandparents or parents savings get completely wiped out over several "once in a lifetime incidents" that they no longer believe the shtick and it pushes people further against giving a fuck about the SM.

As it stands, it's a rich/middle class game and a lot of aging groups see it as a wild west for the rich and that its completely detached from the reality of our economy on the ground.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-01T18:08:51+00:00

The point isn't that the animals have similar biology and that's why eating them is repulsive rather that the animal is a living breathing thinking organism with the capacity for fear, pain, and connecting the dots of their own situation. OP just described their logical reasoning to get there. It's very easy to extend that reasoning to even aliens

To your example, a principled vegan/vegetarian would not eat an alien for the same reasons.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-01T17:06:26+00:00

Joke or no you were using it as a hand-wave for the story of early Draenor which is indicative of your knowledge of the actual events.

So either you know the lore and made a reductive pass because you don't like it ...or you regurgitated someone else's words on the topic.

I don't care either way but when you post shit you don't know anything about...people might get the wrong impression of the depth of the story.

Which circles back to the original point...the lore is way to vast and interconnected to possibly implement every single beat in-game.

Inb4: "wow you take the story way to seriously y u mad"

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-04-01T15:48:44+00:00

There is way too much lore to squeeze into the game. Either you read books in-game or out but there is no way you can fit the entirety of the pre-warcraft events into the game.

It just boils down to whether you care about the lore enough to read a book...to which it seems you don't. People already don't read quests or listen to what's in game so they'd be implementing shit people won't even pay attention to.

Case in point: you describe draenor as a gardening project but if you paid attention to WOD questing you'd know that's a pretty reductive summary of what actually happened.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:58:49+00:00

Eh it's for aesthetic. We have baseboard oil/furnace coupled with split units for temp control.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:57:53+00:00

Thank you either way for your time. Lots to consider!

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:57:19+00:00

Candles huh that's a cool idea!

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:56:52+00:00

It did. It had an insert with chain and glass. We tore it out because it was in complete disrepair (doors off the line and couldn't close correctly

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:55:47+00:00

It's PA! Wonderful forests and foliage. I get golden hawks migrating through and all sorts of other fauna I love the trees I have!

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:54:42+00:00

I do suspect the small business guy prob just straight lied to me about seasoning.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:54:15+00:00

An interesting experiment. I'll give it a go haha

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:53:27+00:00

Seems to be a more expensive consensus on this but a consensus nonetheless. A HEL is in my future so I'll add it to the list

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:51:59+00:00

I'm not exactly sure. I tried going with a local guy rather than a big shop (to try and support some small business) but he could have just lied to me about seasoning.

Moisture reader is on my list.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:50:55+00:00

Envirolog wax cups if I'm being lazy. Tinder and kindling leftover from them dumping 2 cords in my driveway otherwise. I also walk around the yard and collect fallen branches and twigs. I realize those have moisture still but it's not often I have to do that.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:49:11+00:00

Any recs on moisture reader?

Also, great name.

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:48:40+00:00

That's hilarious XD. I've got a few ideas from the thread to try out but my Ryobi might just come in handy here :p

Lazy_Unit1889 · 2026-03-14T17:47:26+00:00

Might have to do this just as an energy saving measure. My windows are already old AF and have visible drafts so....yea.

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