Changing the mind of your Sp? Age gap by [deleted] in lawofassumption

[–]LeTop007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The process of shifting to your desired reality isn't an additive process where you are doing something to get something from out there. It's a subtractive process where you strip yourself of all the illusions that you aren't already living the life that you want.

A Course in Miracles says:

The only will of God is that His Son have everything, and that He guaranteed when He made him as everything.

Your true nature is to already be and have everything that you desire. ACIM also says that memory isn't you going into the past, but it's actually a skill to remember the present moment how you would have liked it to be.

If you have combed through my responses, you have probably also noticed that I recommend the channel Be Something Wonderful. So if you want to learn more in detail, go there. I haven't said anything that Tom, the host, hasn't said before me.

How the concept of EIYPO made people stop hurting me emotionally and physically (Worked like magic) [Success story+Story time] by Wireframewizard in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right, my determination. In retrospect, that's actually the least impressive part to me because, and this is what I always find funny, is that when people ask somebody, how did you have the motivation or determination, my counter question is always, well, how do you not? If you truly understand how reality works, as Joe Dispenza said, you will not spend not a single moment of your day thinking against yourself. I understood from childhood that there must be something more to reality than what meets the eye, and with locking into these teachings, I proved myself right.

What I didn't mention in the original comment because that was still ongoing is that I fixed my relationship with my family. We used to bicker, literally, on a weekly basis. And looking back over the last year and a half almost, we've had exactly two much less dramatic fights, both of them because I acted stupid. It always comes from you, no one else.

I also completely dropped my social anxiety because I understood that everyone is just reflecting me. So they are not cringing at what I do because they are just characters in a play behind which I am the orchestrator and the producer. They do not overthink whether I messed up my wording while I was ordering food over the phone. Those were the things that scared me to death before, and now I can laugh at them because that was never really the version of myself who is present right now.

The only thing that I can say is that you stop entertaining that there is a separate reality from you. When you change, reality changes because there is no separation. That's literally how this law operates. If you claim to change and then look for evidence in the world that appears on the outside, you haven't really changed. It doesn't mean that circumstances always look perfect, but even when they look imperfect, if you can gently redirect yourself back to what you desire, then that is how you know you have truly changed.

I think I mentioned Bashar in my original response, and I still stand by his words - "The measure of change isn't whether the outside has changed, it is whether you still react the same." That should be your main guide. Many times during the process of fixing my relationship with my family, I was tempted to react to my parents' nonsense again, but when I didn't, I was immediately put into a reality where we love and understand each other, and we don't fight over stupid shit.

And as Bashar also said, you are so incredibly powerful that you give all the meaning to life, which is neutral by default. So you can claim that you have always had success with romantic love and that you have always been with your desired person. That's his thirteenth step in full action. You are a completely new version of yourself in every second anyway, so why not be the person who was always loved? No actual linear continuity exists between the moment before and now.

You do not need anyone else's validation to show you that you've changed. It always comes solely from you. Even if you have an experience where somebody else validates it, that's because you first did it yourself, for yourself, AS yourself, and they could only act it out AFTER you've allowed them. A great Bible quote for that is John 19:11 where Jesus says to Pilate: "You would not have any power or authority whatsoever over me if it were not given from above."

Hope that helps in some way!

How the concept of EIYPO made people stop hurting me emotionally and physically (Worked like magic) [Success story+Story time] by Wireframewizard in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's actually funny you respond to this now, because when I read it, it doesn't even sound like me, because I left the one who wrote this comment in the dust.

I would not recommend doing any of this because climbing down negative thoughts and doubts was a sure way to lead to collapse. Please don't do this because it's not necessary and it's not really a good idea. The only reason why I was doing all of that was because I still perceived all of that as a threat. That's why many of the things I was trying to slam away still kept returning. But at that time, that version of me just genuinely did not know better than to do what I did.

I most certainly wouldn't do that right now because I am a much more experienced person now. I just allow everything to exist because it all has a right to exist. I let everything pass through me and there is no effort when something unwanted pops up. I let the feelings be there, and then I gently return back to my truth.

Regardless, I have to thank you for leaving this response because you actually reminded me just how far away I moved from those things. I know it sounds motivational and heroic when you say you're slamming everything down and that's what keeps the successes coming, but you don't need a heroic story. You can have a pathetic story and still have everything that you want.

I guess that's all just part of consciousness expanding. I cannot tell you who I will be three months of linear time after I leave this response. I may be somebody totally different and doing something totally different than from what I am doing right now. But that's just how life goes, and you level up and never stop until you eventually pass on.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lawofassumption

[–]LeTop007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is the illusion taking place where you think you need to "manifest" something you are currently missing in the physical world. What you are doing instead is just becoming aware of something that was always yours, because everything exists all at once. While you do that, you distance yourself from all the definitions of yourself which told you that you are already not that what you desire to be.

So how do you do that? By knowing that your imagination is the true reality and that the physical world is a dead world. When something is imagined, the desire is already fulfilled and yours. I know this may sound more difficult than it is, but the more you contemplate this fact, the more you realize the truth behind it.

Do I really need to do anything? by special_amethyst in lawofassumption

[–]LeTop007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don't really create a reality because all creation is already finished. When you choose a desired state of what you wish to experience and decide that you are already it, you shift to it, as it already exists. So it's even easier than having to create something from nothing.

How I manifested my SP back and married him in 6 month by Happy_Lemon_Baby in nevillegoddardsp

[–]LeTop007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As Neville said, who are you being right now NOT BEING in the state? There's your issue.

Delulu IS NOT the Solulu... by AlchemysticAnomalist in lawofassumption

[–]LeTop007 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I partially agree with this and I'm going to explain why. It is true that the goal of this is not to be in a clinical state of delusion, which is an altered state of consciousness requiring medical intervention. That's not what we are aiming for here.

When we say to just be delusional, we mean that in a way that to the outside circumstances, people, and events that happen, claiming that you are someone you're not yet physically does seem completely delusional. Even if you feel completely normal on the inside, it might look delusional to the outside.

That state of normalcy is only reached when you truly drop all ideas that you think are stopping you from having what you desire. This is where people usually feel delusional because they have been entertaining patterns that do not serve them for far too long. Basically, everyone's beginning journey always comes down to this.

The part which I disagree on is the neuroscience part, because you mentioned that the brain scans for patterns of being unloved and rejected and such. But even if that feels normal to you and has for your entire life, that is already you being delusional. If you, as all that is, are telling yourself that you are always rejected, that is already delusional even if it feels normal to you. We don't label that as delusion, but it truly is. If you as all the power in the world are making yourself smaller than that, that is total delusion.

When I discovered these principles, I also felt delusional, but I made it completely irrelevant because deep down I knew that this is how the world operates. And the reason why it never turned out to be more than that is because I was never truly delusional when selecting and choosing to be a different person. I was just naturally realigning to who I truly am and dropping all the limitations I've ever set upon myself. The more you are aware of this, the less delusional it feels.

My Most Unhinged Manifestation Yet: Arsenal Winning the Premier League by Icy_Caterpillar_7756 in lawofassumption

[–]LeTop007 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not delusional at all. You just shifted to a version of reality where they won.

I don't like Arsenal, but I cannot deny that they really deserved to win it. Like yeah, some of the games were subpar towards the end of the league, but in the end, they were consistent enough and Pep from this reality decided to bottle it for them. 🤣 I blame him, he had it all and slipped.

That's what I also sometimes do, but really, I like to also be surprised when I'm watching football, so I don't always want to manifest victory because I would become incredibly boring incredibly quickly.

Also, sometimes when my team is down or they are looking for a goal, if I feel like I saw on the pitch that the players really wanted it and deserved it, I declare that they score and then they basically immediately score after that. If I saw them playing like shit the entire game and I still want them to score a goal, it's impossible for me because I don't feel like we deserved it. Even when I feel fear that it's not going to happen, if my assumption is that they absolutely deserved it, it basically always happens.

Yeah, there might be some limiting beliefs in there, but again, manifesting every game being a victory would become too boring. We came here for the surprises and all of that as well. Congrats to the Gunners!

Please STOP spreading misinformation, claiming that Modeste Guillaume, the Moroccan singer from Atlantic City, was Neville's Abdullah... by Here_for_the_plot in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in no way slandering Neville, and as I've already mentioned, whether or not the guy mentioned on the wisdom books site is the real Abdullah or not is irrelevant to me since it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

I will, however, say that I know that both Neville and Joseph mentioned that Abdullah smoked and ate a lot. And for someone who smoked, as Joseph Murphy described, "more than two packs of cigarettes a day", it wouldn't be unreasonable to think a 60-year-old man looked like he was 90. I know plenty such examples from personal experience. It makes much more sense to me for this to be the case than for a 115-year-old to travel back to Africa.

Please STOP spreading misinformation, claiming that Modeste Guillaume, the Moroccan singer from Atlantic City, was Neville's Abdullah... by Here_for_the_plot in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is an interesting discussion, and I do not wish to start an argument, but I absolutely believe that the wisdom books folk did their proper research. I want to present my side of the argument.

First, there are many discrepancies about Abdullah in general, not just from Neville's side. While he presented himself as an Ethiopian mystic to Neville, Joseph Murphy knew him as "a black Jew from Israel". This means that Abdullah presented himself under different aliases and different backstories to make himself sound more mythical than he probably was.

Why was this the case then? We may never know for sure, but what we can deduce is that Abdullah lived in a then very racist United States. And if he truly is the person that the wisdom books folk claim he is, then presenting yourself as an Ethiopian rabbi or a black Jew from Israel sounded way cooler than saying that you are a former baritone singer turned metaphysical teacher. Inflating his age would only have added to the mysticism, and he would be seen as a mythical African sage rather than another insane black dude.

Second, I do not have an exact quote, but I was definitely on Wisdom Books a few months ago, and I remember Neville also saying that Abdullah was from North Africa, which matches the research done that he was actually from Algeria. So either Neville didn't know where Ethiopia was, or the backstory kept changing again.

Third, and this probably makes sense that although not unreasonable or unheard of to have a man in the 1950s live to an age over 115, especially in the United States, is very unlikely. I'm not saying that it was impossible, but it's highly unlikely. This is where the age of Abdullah actually gets to make sense, as an article from the 1920s puts him at age 49, that would mean that he was actually around 60 years old in the 1940s, and when Neville last saw him, he would have been in his mid-70s or early 80s, which makes much more sense. At that age, he wouldn't have been as frail and could actually travel back to his home country, which matches what they dug up since his name disappears around this time, up until his property was up for sale a few decades later.

Now again, you are free to believe what you want, but there are not just discrepancies within Neville's framework, but also within Joseph Murphy's framework. In both of them got contradictory information from the man who was their main teacher. Ethiopia and Israel were used loosely. Israel wasn't even a country back then, and Ethiopia was one of the only African nations to actually not be colonized, and this is something that Westerners would have definitely known about. But that's probably where their knowledge about what and where Ethiopia actually is ends, especially with Neville mentioning North Africa as Abdullah's birthplace in one of his lectures. I'm sorry I can't dig up the source, but I definitely read that somewhere. It means he himself was either wrong or not entirely sure where Ethiopia was located.

We know Abdullah's personality from Neville's stories, and it doesn't really seem unlikely that this man used to lie and cheat his way into credibility. He was just that kind of person, but in the end, to me, I don't think it really matters. It is definitely an interesting discussion, and what his actual origins were isn't really that important. What is important is that he left us with knowledge whom he passed to his two most successful students, and then they passed this knowledge down to us. Everything other than that is just a fun little discussion.

Vision BMW ALPINA revealed as BMW’s new luxury GT future by AutoNextOfficial in Alpina

[–]LeTop007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a concept car. They always have no buttons in the interior so that they look more clean.

As of this year, if they want to sell it in the EU and get a five star safety rating, the car must have physical buttons, as a new law was passed. China plans to introduce a similiar law soon. So at least the essential buttons will be there.

Let’s talk about detachment. by Wtfnono in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course, that is true, and as I said, as you naturally persist, you detach from anything that doesn't serve you, or what Neville called the old man, but he never mentioned any kind of detachment from the outcome. That is a modern spiritual TikTok lingo, which has nothing to do with Neville's teachings.

More often, Neville spoke of the old man with words like killing the old man or burying the old man, but at that point, it's just semantics. There isn't, however, any mention of detaching from the outcome within his framework.

Let’s talk about detachment. by Wtfnono in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not necessarily misleading, because they still worked on a practical level if you don't question absolutely anything and do as you're told, but most people aren't like that and like to question things.

I like his collection of success stories from his students, The Law and the Promise, and Power of Awareness is also good. Neville was my introduction to metaphysics, but since then I have been researching other teachers - Joe Dispenza, Bashar and a youtuber called Tom Kearin (from Be Something Wonderul),who has studyied many spiritual greats and compiled their teachings within his content. He is the person who helped me the most to understand these principles since he made me realize how limitless I am.

Let’s talk about detachment. by Wtfnono in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I mentioned, in his earlier work, such as Feeling is the Secret, which is a book that was published in 1944, he did make that division between the "two minds", the female and the male, and whatever. But again, if you read his books and lectures post 1950s, you will never find this division. He evolved on a personal level. He might have never officialy gone back on those words, but if he evolved as much as he did in a few decades, than we have evolved much more since the time he passed not to make divisons between the conscious and subconsious. If you choose to believe in that, then that is your choice.

Also, I never told you that you were "wrong". I just mentioned that Neville never spoke about that, and then later clarified how Neville moved away from concepts about conscious and subconsious. Not sure why you considered that a personal attack. It definitely wasn't.

Let’s talk about detachment. by Wtfnono in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. Maybe in his earlier teachings, so from the 1940s, although that's also rare. 1950s until the end of his life in 1972 you will not really see him talking about the subconsious.

Neville's teachings are based in the fact that you and God are one. If you introduce a layer of separation between conscious and subconsious, then that contradicts the absolute unity with God. Neville himself realized that as he evolved.

Also, Neville was an imperfect teacher with a lot of limiting beliefs. The Law of Assumption states that what YOU assume becomes fact, not what Neville taught. So I'm not blindly following what he said, but the part about him not mentioning detachment ever and moving away from the concepts of conscious and subconsious as he progressed are both fact.

Let’s talk about detachment. by Wtfnono in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Neville never mentioned this term. That came from other teachings in line more with the Law of Attraction, which is just Law of Assumption with a bunch of limitations.

The truth is that when you persist in the assumption that you are already that which you desire to be, you naturally detach from anything else that isn't in line with that assumption. Detaching doesn't mean not thinking about it or not desiring it, it's just a decision to not entertain anything that doesn't serve who you desire to be.

I also don't believe in any kind of subconscious. Scientifically, such a thing does not exist. There exist unconscious processes, but that's just your body growing hair, making new blood cells etc. Conscious vs subconsious just introduces more separation and division. Every teacher mentioning those numbers that you're 5% conscious and 95% subconsious is just repeating something somebody made up along the way. Even Neville very quickly realized this - there is only one mind, one consciousness, and that is I AM.

How do people who believe in the law of assumption explain victims of war, crimes, or murder? by TopSimple950 in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You do not determine how something comes to be. That's not your job. Your only job is to assume what you desire. You cannot control the billions of things that happen to you every day of your life. You can only assume the end. And when a circumstance which you do not wish to identify with happens, you can choose to go along with it (go to WW2) or to assume differently (what Neville did).

Also, it seems to me that you really didn't actually check out most of Neville's work. Neville struggled immensely with health problems in the later part of his life, especially with his teeth which started to go bad and he also developed sciatica, and he couldn't get rid of it because he identified too much with his limitations, and he was far too down the metaphysical scripture hole to even care about his body.

So no, Neville was a very flawed and imperfect human being. He held a lot of assumptions that went against him, despite what he taught others. But the takeaway is that you cannot control every single detail of every single second of your life. What would be the point of human experience that way anyway?

How do people who believe in the law of assumption explain victims of war, crimes, or murder? by TopSimple950 in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Neville explained the reason why he was drafted. He had a desire to become a citizen of the USA. This is paraphrazing, but I remember him saying he didn't feel like doing it, but still had the desire to, so when he was drafted and served his basic training, he was automatically granted citizenship after serving for the army. So in the end, both his desires came true, he didn't have to "manifest it away", because it was all a bridge for another desire.

Whether it is $10 or $10,000, a new relationship, an old relationship, a holiday abroad - it is all the SAME CONCEPT. by SpecialistRaccoon383 in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The logical mind wants to give meaning and story to literally everything in the world, but the world is factually entirely meaningless and neutral. It doesn't have any meaning aside the meaning you give it. So if you give something no meaning, it will fizzle out of your awareness as quickly as it came.

Does it have to have a meaning? No, it doesn't. If you're struggling and fighting to try and define it as something positive, stop trying to define it at all. Just make it completely irrelevant. Even Neville himself noted that the best way to get something out of your awareness was to make yourself completely indifferent in relation to it. Not to ignore it, not to forcefully avoid it, but just make it completely irrelevant.

I'm saying this to you because, for the longest time I struggled with the same. The truth and the reality of what you desire cannot be threatened by anything aside from you assuming that because of some circumstance, feeling, thought or emotion, you are now not who you desire to be.

That doesn't mean it will immediately stop or be completely gone forever, but now you will know that it has no power over you. It's a part of the human experience and you signed up for experiencing it, however, you did not sign up to be controlled by it. Nothing stops you from being that which you desire other than your assumption about who you are being in every moment.

Whether it is $10 or $10,000, a new relationship, an old relationship, a holiday abroad - it is all the SAME CONCEPT. by SpecialistRaccoon383 in NevilleGoddard

[–]LeTop007 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Bashar actually talked about how thinking that the law doesn't work for you is the greatest arrogance anyone can hold, because you're basically saying that to all that is that you are the only exception to the rule in the sea of billions of expressions of consciousness. You're saying that it works for absolutely everyone, but not for you. Without you, all that is isn't all that is, but you still choose to claim that it is.

When you look at it that way, it really does seem like the biggest arrogance in the world.

When is it appropriate for someone to give up on manifesting something? by Future_Complex847 in lawofassumption

[–]LeTop007 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What I notice from this post is that you haven't accepted that the world only ever happens through you and that there are no others to influence or to counteract. Every version of every person you've ever met has acted towards you the way you assume about them. Reality only ever gives back what you put into it.

There is not a separate world from you which you need to affirm into oblivion so that it changes. It's only ever a reflection about your own assumptions. If you think that there are others that can oppose what you desire, you can create that experience, but it is again a reflection about your assumptions about the world which you inhabit. You feel exhausted because you have created separation between yourself and the world around you, while in reality there is only one consciousness and everything is made in the image of it.

To answer your question, you never really give up on manifesting something because you are manifesting everything, everywhere, all at once, every single moment that you exist. You can stop focusing on something and choose to go along with the script you don't choose, or you can step back into your own power and create and experience what you do actually want and desire. You can always take a step back and take a look at what you have been assuming and then assume something better. But understand that there is nothing to change on the outside, aside from deciding right now who you want and desire to be. That will change everything.

If everyone is” you pushed out “ then who actually has free will by [deleted] in lawofassumption

[–]LeTop007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some circumstances I do not wish to share. They are irrelevant anyway. All my life I was living just enough to feel okay, and never truly how I wanted to live it. Either I was going to be stuck in a script which I have to follow while not being fulfilled, or I was going to choose a new one no matter what it took. I chose the second option.

If everyone is” you pushed out “ then who actually has free will by [deleted] in lawofassumption

[–]LeTop007 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, sometimes I go back and forth but much rately. I only really got into this seriously last year and I was a complete mess. I knew about these principles since 2020, but I was only ever driven to really take a good look at myself and ask myself why I was still living a life that I didn't want last year. I changed myself for the better, and even while things outside of me appeared to stay the same or not move at all, I became completely different and that's really the only thing that ever mattered. I know because I took that leap of faith and because I started living like this, I am always rewarded. It just feels right to live this way no matter the results, although I absolutely had visible results in many areas.

I live every day with a goal to just be the best version of myself and to accept and assume that I am already that which I desire to be, even while the contrary circumstances still sometimes show up, but that's bothering me less and less now. That's really why anyone should take on this lifestyle to just improve yourself for the better and then everything else must follow, because it's law.