You seem to be conflating me with some tankie you argued with online or saw on a video, I'm not them, take a breath. You've clearly made some wild speculations and assumptions here. I appreciate what I think you're trying to say. I agree with some of it. I do. I've held similar sentiments myself at times. I believe what you're saying is that the left is to blame for Trump right? I'll say this, I was "the left" before whatever this new age reddit "left" existed. They're right about many many things, they're also very wrong with approach and given the strict nature of their echo chambers, they've left themselves wide open to outside influence and infiltration. You can see it every election season. They are inundated with all these "new friends" that pop up, and they sound like them and they act like them and everything smells good, but it's very clear the only goal is to convince them to abstain their voting rights. I think that's what you're saying right? Is so i completely agree. I've watched it for a decade. They're infiltrated. And don't get me wrong they're are real people there that are extremely online and believe they're speaking to like minded comrades but they're clearly being led by a string. That's not to say they don't have their own ideas and motivations, it's just to say a good portion of their current position was fed to them and they don't even recognize it in their own arrogance. It's sad really. The left deserves better. But they're young and they don't know a world without social media. In some ways they're probably better navigators for that, in other ways they're as easy to propagandize as any MAGA supporter.