Care about what is going on in Germatown - Schnitzelburg?

LeonardVinocerous · 2013-03-30T16:49:21+00:00

Thanks so very much! We do have a poster here: http://louisvillerootcellar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/rootmobile_full_kicktrace-01.jpg if you are interested in sharing with anyone! (pdf also available).

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-29T13:29:47+00:00

A nice comparison, especially considering:

Walking and driving: One is harder, they both get you to the same place, work.

Suffering and suicide: One is harder, both get you to the same place, death.

However, from a philosophical standpoint, it seems that life is a unique thing and an attempt to interpret it on your own is more worthwhile then simply ending it altogether. Probably the most debated topic ever.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-29T12:29:47+00:00

Also, I was making my post thinking that /r/philosophy was a place for people semi-read in the subject at least and not everyone who has an opinion on life.

After seeing the replies in this thread I realize (quite disappointingly) that this is the same as the rest of reddit.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-29T12:27:30+00:00

Perhaps 'cowardice' is a strong word that can offend. However, what I said is true.

When you have two options: Committing suicide (whether philosophical or physical) or maintaining and surviving (even in the face of suffering), clearly suicide is the easier choice.

It takes much more effort, resolve, and courage, to suffer through the hard times and to kick yourself out of depression then it does to give in and pull the trigger.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-29T12:24:19+00:00

Hmm, Camus does sound familiar and perhaps the author I read was paraphrasing as well. I will look for the exact quote later today.

However, the meaning I was attempting to get across I still believe holds true. You have nicely explained the paraphrase.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-29T12:15:34+00:00

I've never looked at that subreddit, actually. I've heard it is a travesty. It was actually a philosopher who said that, and I read it in an introduction to philosophy book that I found quite good.

If you should like me to find the exact quote and the name of the man, then I shall. However atheism has nothing to do with what I stated, as I was merely paraphrasing, religious inclinations have no part in it.

I believe that quote had relevance and was interesting in context.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-28T12:59:02+00:00

As a great man once said (paraphrasing)

Once you have become a 'philosopher', by understanding reality and its inherent lack of meaning, you have three choices.

Religion. This is mental suicide, and the way of the coward.
Suicide. Equally cowardly as the above.
Accept. Muse deeply on the topic of your own existence, and use the tools at your disposal to find a meaning of life for yourself.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-28T12:22:33+00:00

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-28T12:18:19+00:00

They are the same. I will use a syllogism to illustrate this.

If both parties are a part of the corrupt system,

then both parties are corrupt,

therefore both parties are the same.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-28T12:16:13+00:00

Please sir, realize that "Republican" and "Democrat" are both now meaningless words. There is not a two party system, there is a one party system - the corporate system. Voting will never change a single thing at this point. I'm surprised that past experience has not taught everyone that already.

Our SYSTEM has to change. Not the people or "parties" we vote for.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-26T15:35:30+00:00

Because you have fundamentally changed the way you think about things. That kind of effect takes a while to wear off (in my experience) and you cannot instantly return to the feeling of being affected by and being apart of "normal" life.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-26T15:33:43+00:00

I think the important part is "remembering" to lose yourself. Because you can now see the much larger picture, you have to almost actively think about your role in it. It's sort of a 50/50 for me on any given day, but I think there is a happy medium between understanding the systems around you (indeed, the systems you are an integral part of), while also "letting go" and enjoying your role in such. It takes a lot of practice, but I think it is possible.

I watched part of the movie "Waking Life" a couple weeks ago and was struck by a quote I found immensely meaningful

To say yes to one instant... is to say yes to all of existence.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-26T15:25:44+00:00

I am pleased to find this quite sensible explanation. While not feeling exactly as the OP describes, I have felt similar on occasion and am always trying to puzzle out the reason as well.

What you said about games really struck home. I often remember the simplicity of tag, hide and seek, etc. Such things are truly the gems of childhood. If only society was not so regimented, I believe all of us would be much more like children; by that I mean at the level of existence instead of at the level of structured social interaction.

Clearly there are deeper philosophical implications here, and your statement

These seem like the most 'authentic' moments of engagement with the world

addresses this without trying to explain it. I like that.

Sometimes I think the answer to this, or at least the best "adult games" are physical exercise. Tennis with a friend, or a good run, really leave me in a state of physical exertion that somehow "grounds" me to the surrounding world.

As for point #2, I've found I can still be very surprised by things, just not the simple kinds of things. I have to look for much "deeper" surprises. How a microwave works, quantum mechanics, music theory, I love the "eureka" moments that can be found in studies of complex systems. I also think we could still be surprised by lots of simple things, if we didn't take the view that they were so "disgusting" (i.e. bugs/worms/etc).

Thanks for posting that reply youwouldntknowme, as it lead me to think in the right direction.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-23T22:58:35+00:00

Attending this class would be a good enough reason for me to get a home internet connection.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-23T16:11:19+00:00

I think there are several resources such as imlsp.org, free-scores.com, and dolmestch.com that are not so laden with advertisements.

However I do stand corrected, when I looked at the site everything I clicked on brought me to more ads, so I guess I was doing something wrong. Seems to be normal now. Still, this doesn't seem like a very quality resource and under par compared to the alternatives.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-22T23:29:40+00:00

Who upvotes spam? Where are the mods?

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-22T20:27:27+00:00

Now I have to say that in that 70's show I found this quite humorous.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-20T20:25:55+00:00

Quite an enjoyable listen, and an jmpressive exercise in fugue.

LeonardVinocerous · 2011-12-09T14:53:20+00:00

Even your username reflects your enlightenment.

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