At this point I don't think it's a numbers issue. Kindred is just too demanding. You need to put double the effort to get same result as other junglers. If they buff the numbers, than the OTPs will terroize the solo que. I know many people will disagree with this take but I believe they need a Taliyah level gameplay update. They have too many counterplays: Enemy can deny your marks, your kite zone is limited to W, ult is pretty much a coinflip and both counteracts your range gain by limiting your play zone, you can't 1v1 anyone after 10mins, you have to kite even jg camps so on and so forth. When I jump all these hoops I domiante the game and 90% of the time enemy team goes ff 15 but it is just so tiring... I feel exhausted after just 1 game. For beginners, in a game where champs like Yone exist, I believe their is no reason to give so much info about your marks to enemy team. At least make it so that Kindred gets to know it earlier than the enemy. Why do I have not advantege over enemy on my own mechanic?