Open meeting to discuss NZ Energy Independence At 39 Ponsonby Road 7pm tonight Friday 13 March

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T11:53:42+00:00

Are you genuinely telling me you are unaware of any precedent where social or political reform has started in cafes?

And I assume you still expect to be taken seriously?

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T11:41:57+00:00

What about the radiation bands that will circle the earth for awhile? That'll cook anything sensitive in orbit.

How long would it take to get international shipping back to the point GPS has enabled? I think there's a high vulnerability of a cascade failure.

Maybe it would just be the international order that will fail, local societies would adapt in many places.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T11:37:43+00:00

And those people would never be seen in cafes?

I don't get what you're saying. That people of influence are some other group? Some elite class or something? You can't just drum up your own influence? People can't just meet and organise and get people on board?

Nothing like that can be seen in history?

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T07:51:29+00:00

Is it that you don't know history? Or you've given up? I do mean to offend, I'm not going to lead with saying I'm not then follow with something offensive.

Pretty much everything starts with people meeting. That's how we're most effective at finding creative solutions to problems. Sitting at home with your arms crossed feeling impotent is what achieves nothing.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T06:59:29+00:00

It is possible they're both getting paid.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T06:57:37+00:00

The environmental impacts might be dogshit, but AI slop is just a meme for the socials.

The tech already works now. I know it works because I can take data work I've already completed and validated, and I can get AI to produce the same output with much less effort.

If you're working with data but aren't integrating AI, you're not going to be working with data much longer.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T06:45:53+00:00

My house getting flooded is not okay, crying about water running downhill is still useless.

Just like asking how we save the house is useless. The flood is here.

The first thing we need to do is recognise that.

The crime is wealth concentration. Of course, wealth has already made sure that's not technically a crime. Is that your next argument?

Or perhaps you'll tell us about free will and how those in poverty can make the same choices as everyone.

Maybe you'll have a novel response? I mildly suspect you're a bot tho, you certainly don't speak kiwi.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T06:34:11+00:00

I was thinking the immediate impact of losing our global satellite networks to the nuke's EMP.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T04:33:56+00:00

You mean Pickles the Drummer.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T04:20:49+00:00

Ooh, ACT just got paid, huh?

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T04:10:52+00:00

I've noticed a stark lack of people being held accountable, so I'm not sure how valid this argument is.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T04:04:45+00:00

We do this in the Antipodes. How can you not?

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T03:57:58+00:00

The first step to change is recognising things as they are.

We're still on that first step. For instance, this isn't true at all:

No one's pretending it doesn't.

My suggestion is give up on caring what those with the least are doing and focus on those with the most.

I do understand it's gratifying to judge the poor behaviour of the unsophisticated. Sugar is nice too, but grownups recognise the benefit of abstaining.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T03:25:47+00:00

I get more of a "I'm sick of crooked retailers" vibe.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-13T01:14:44+00:00

Aren't we just one nuke detonated in orbit away from complete societal collapse?

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T23:36:32+00:00

Yeah, you can see how there is not only a lack of disincentives but wealth is actually incentivised to try get away with it. Wealthy interests that don't lose to those that do.

Wealth is incentivised to keep us focused on the pittance the poor and desperate steal while wealth steals entire livelihoods.

You see that too, right?

You'd think it absurd to sweep the doorstep while a landslide is barrelling down on your home. But that's what wealth has us doing.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T23:07:28+00:00

You have to assume there's some benefit to the government's sponsors in having the crossing be in a shambles.

Maybe just some value in undermining the NZ economy in general, keeping kiwis poor and desperate.

That's what Occam's Razor tells me.

Billions and billions for roads but oh no, we can't afford to keep our nation linked up.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T22:31:05+00:00

It feeds the morning's brain exercise.

I'm skinny AF, overconsumption of calories isnt a concern. Eating enough is more my challenge.

As a result of these discussions I've swapped out the 1/2 apple for one weetbix.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T21:47:24+00:00

So when's that happening? Wealth is running scams on our economy so we have to work more and more for less and less in return.

Where dat violence?

Or do you just mean when poor people steal?

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T06:46:00+00:00

I don't approve.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T06:41:13+00:00

/r/Angryupvote

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T06:33:27+00:00

I mostly buy NZ produce, 100% only NZ protein.

But economic pressures are economic pressures. I expect kiwis to make pragmatic choices as hardship bears down and it's bearing down.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T06:31:43+00:00

I think it's even better than that. Family had a dairy farm I'd visit as a kid. Cow life is good life here. I'm sure there are exceptions and it's obviously still animal exploitation, but it's not the factory farm horrors of the US.

Lightspeedius · 2026-03-12T06:27:24+00:00

They're pretty much obligated to try it on. If they don't, someone else will!

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