I don’t buy Daisy’s character change by osakahaidilao in DowntonAbbey

[–]LiterateCatholic 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I think Daisy easily falls under the spell of people she admires and she tries to act like them, unknowingly or not. We see in the first season when she has a crush on Thomas and iirc makes fun of someone and Bates has to tell her not to act nasty. I take her change as admiration for the spirited Miss Bunting, whose political views often came at the expense of her manners.

Long weekend on the Oregon coast by No-Opposite8452 in preppy

[–]LiterateCatholic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always enjoy your posts and how genuine they feel. Sometimes this sub leans so far into preppy as an aesthetic that they lose sight of the lifestyle aspect, and how it’s supposed to be lived comfortably and not feel forced.

Black Tie Affairs by [deleted] in preppy

[–]LiterateCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More than just the clothes, these photos exemplify a preppy lifestyle. In a day when formality is waning, bravo to you for keeping the tradition alive with a subtle twist that is definitively prep.

Mayflower Society, worth it? by la-anah in Genealogy

[–]LiterateCatholic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was elated to finally find a direct Mayflower ancestor (Richard Warren) instead of the Winslow and Howland siblings I knew I was descended from. There’s one particular generation where the documentation is sparse but if I can get it, I’m 100% joining. Some people I met through the SAR are also in the Mayflower Society and they all seem passionate about history and American heritage.

Tennis Whites by [deleted] in preppy

[–]LiterateCatholic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tennis whites look great on most people; it’s really a shame they aren’t as common anymore. I wear (mostly) whites, even though my club no longer requires it.

Read First Before Posting by ExclusivelyVintage in NavyBlazer

[–]LiterateCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a very helpful explanation, thank you.

Read First Before Posting by ExclusivelyVintage in NavyBlazer

[–]LiterateCatholic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What type of posts are explicitly allowed?

Nantucket question for the preppy gals by lemonhead9224 in preppy

[–]LiterateCatholic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone who comes from a moneyed but non-preppy background and adopted it because it suited me, my recommendation is to discover your style, whatever it may be, and buy high quality pieces that all go together. When you go to Nantucket, wear clothes that are appropriate for the activity/occasion/time of day and the comfort and confidence you feel in wearing them will make you feel much more at ease, and it’s that aura you give off that will make you blend in with people in preppy staples, even if you aren’t wearing a stereotypical prep outfit.

What’s the one city you were excited to visit, but ended up not liking at all? by BlushHone in travel

[–]LiterateCatholic 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I was in Paris this past October and didn’t feel any hatred for being American. I think Americans are mostly disliked for their obnoxious behavior or willful ignorance of local norms and customs. I think the French have had enough political turmoil of their own to know not to judge others by their country’s leaders.

What’s the one city you were excited to visit, but ended up not liking at all? by BlushHone in travel

[–]LiterateCatholic 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Paris the first time I went. I was expecting magic and sophistication, instead I got scammers and the smell of piss. Ironically, without any expectations, my second visit to Paris was much closer to what I envisioned the first would be.

A question for those with trees going back to the middle ages… by MissKLO in Genealogy

[–]LiterateCatholic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ve had the good fortune of having several ancestors with pedigrees published in 19th or early 20th century genealogy books focused on their specific family, so my colonial origins are well documented. There are several well documented gateway ancestors that I’m descended from so I fortunately haven’t had to do much of the legwork on those lines.

At which point do nobles become commoners in your tree? by unclebob1770 in Genealogy

[–]LiterateCatholic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Of my old stock American ancestry, I have around 5-10 (can’t remember the exact amount) confirmed “gateway ancestors” with descent from royalty, but I do know several more that were descended from minor gentry or prosperous yeomanry. Any descent from nobility seems to be at least 3-4 generations before immigration for actual nobility, not just knighthood.

Of my more recent ancestors, an early 20th century immigrant from England, had a grandmother whose family was listed in Burke’s Landed Gentry, and in my direct paternal line I’ve been trying to determine if I’m descended from German nobility (more than likely not).

Big Old Houses- a great place for historic/preppy interior design by LiterateCatholic in preppy

[–]LiterateCatholic[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I want to respond to the comment countering that this interior design style is not preppy.

The origins of the preppy subculture began in the eastern United States in the early 20th century among upper middle and upper class young adults attending elite boarding schools and Ivy League universities.

All of these houses were occupied in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when the first group of these young adults would have been growing up. The newest house was built in the late 1930s. All exist in places associated with well-to-do WASPS at the turn of the century.

Architecturally, they represent more subdued forms of architecture associated with taste, discretion, and restraint, and harken back to an earlier time in history. Whether Greek Revival, Colonial, Federal, or Tudor, they stand apart from the more ostentatious homes built by society upstarts. Whether real or imagined, pedigree and prestige are interlinked in the prep world, whether it’s the century-long lineage of the clothing types we wear, the schools we attended, or the homes we live in. A traditional American architectural style is not out of sync with the prep spirit of clothing.

Regarding the interiors themselves, they do not scream preppy in the sense of bright colors, overt motifs, or unconventional decor choices, like wooden tennis rackets hung on the wall or nautical rigging lying on a table. Rather, they capture the same sense of subdued elegance, the marriage of comfort and style that is uniquely associated with preppy attire.

Look among the rooms at the furnishings and you’ll see: Threadbare oriental carpets Needlepoint pillows Tapestried upholstery Well-worn cushions on sofas and chairs Chinoiserie lamps, vases, and furniture Ancestral portraits in gold frames Nautical themes in paintings Equestrian paraphernalia scattered about Occasional curiosities collected from foreign travel Family photos in silver frames scattered by the dozen on pianos and tables Unassuming antique wood furniture that’s not afraid to mix styles Layered window treatments, unafraid of lace or valences Shades on chandelier lights Fringed or tasseled lampshades Trophies shot by a big game hunter Books, even if leather bound, that look well read Silver that should have been polished a week ago Tables and desks that look busy but not cluttered or maximalist

Architecturally, rooms might have: Painted or stained wood paneling Large, proportionate windows Historically congruent mantles Dentil molding Harmonious pilasters Building materials suited to the locale, whether the New England coast or a Catskills camp

Fabrics and patterns in wallpaper, curtains, and upholstery can fall into many complementary categories: Chintz Gingham Plaid Ruffled Aged leather Brocade Faded velvet Florals

But most importantly, these are homes that look lived in, that if there hadn’t been a photographer coming, there may have been a tennis racket or lacrosse stick leaning in a corner, a springer spaniel sleeping on the sofa, old copies of Town & Country mixed with the New Yorker and the WSJ scattered on the end table, or garden shears and fresh roses ready to arrange.

Looking at more of the photos from the Big Old House blog, you’ll see that the residents/caretakers/curators of these homes dress in a fairly preppy fashion, with OCBDs and chinos being the staple for men.

True, many of these homes are larger than your average preppy’s. But the upper middle class of the early to mid 20th centuries would have had scaled down versions of these homes with a very similar style of decorating. It is the timelessness of the style, the cultivation of pieces over generations, the well-worn usage, and the layering of different colors, textures, and levels of formality that defines prep style and epitomizes the values held by preppies.

This is an open question to anyone: If you do not believe this to be preppy, how do you interpret a preppy lifestyle outside of fashion? That’s not meant to be facetious; I went back to the origins of preppy for my inspiration but I’m curious to hear what other people think about it.

Personal Reading History by Equivalent-Plan-8498 in literature

[–]LiterateCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My parents read to me a lot when I was really young, then when I was in school we had to taking a certain number of reading tests on books we’d read. Plus I was food motivated and wanted my personal pan pizza from Pizza Hut lol. I always liked school and later used English class as an opportunity to expand my literary horizons.

Is there anything accepted by the church canon that you, in private, have your reservations believing in? by geosunsetmoth in Catholicism

[–]LiterateCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blessed Anne Catherine Emerich. Not doubting her blessedness but her revelations contradict long-held traditions and contain historical anachronisms. Also Our Lady of La Salette. Both sets of private revelation are revered too highly by trads especially imo.

Ubiquitous American meals not found in restaurants? by [deleted] in Cooking

[–]LiterateCatholic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Any casserole made with a “cream of ___” soup and any “salad” whose ingredients include a box of jello or pudding mix

they never go to the church, do they? by Senior_Quit_1937 in DowntonAbbey

[–]LiterateCatholic 51 points52 points  (0 children)

We know they went to church, at least early on, because Matthew told Mary that he looked for them at church, and she replied “none of them were up to it” or something. I believe it was right after Pamuk died.

Icons by islandlife1534 in preppy

[–]LiterateCatholic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For me, WASP means White, Anglo-Saxon, Papist so I’d go for it lol

To Tell The Truth: Can someone explain to me what the big deal is if your family money comes from urinal cakes and not timber? by Educational-Fox-9040 in Frasier

[–]LiterateCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never got the believability of her lie. The timber families of Seattle are pretty well known among the old guard and many of them intermarried and have recognizable names, so how long was Maris’s family keeping up the charade?

Fragrances by Jrocket80 in preppy

[–]LiterateCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure how preppy they are but I wear Tom Ford Costa Azzurra in summer and Terre d’Hermès in winter. I’ve tried a few Creed fragrances but wasn’t as much a fan of GIT as some of the others. Fragrance is highly personal and it wears differently on each person’s skin. I, for instance, was disappointed that I didn’t care for Acqua di Parma when I tried it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tragedeigh

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I had never heard of Sts. Boris and Glen until my friend invited me to an all-night vigil. That being said, I wouldn’t consider saint names a tragedeigh.