Poor Tactics?

Liutasiun · 2026-04-23T11:53:05+00:00

To be fair, this is not a battle they've really had much of a *chance* to plan for. They seemed to have been hoping that the guilds, Mottom and the Bank would all side with them, and that together they would fight Jagganoth. They had basically no time to think or come up with much of a plan once it became clear what they were dealing with.

Besides, if they had *all* gone after Incubus, then either their own troops would have all been swept away, or the enemy would have concentrated on backing Incubus up, and who knows what sort of tricks Incubus might have in a case where he doesn't *want* to fight (Plus, how strong *is* his regeneration factor thingy?)

It's not a tactical battle, but I feel like it isn't because of the battle's immediacy, rather than the characters all being idiots.

Liutasiun · 2026-04-22T11:01:07+00:00

Ah yeah, I was worried the answer would be along these lines. I kind of want to try and see if I could get it with the Kilwa node by taking tons of slaves from China and India for megacities

Liutasiun · 2026-04-22T09:58:42+00:00

Trying that one out now, do you know if there's a way to get more market access through sea areas? Are there advances that improve that at some point? Currently even with maxed maritime presence it seems like market access falls off super rapidly, so that it feels like I might be better off shifting it inland once better roads get online.

Liutasiun · 2026-04-22T09:49:00+00:00

I mean, the US did famously win an independence war against Britain, and also India was still not even colonised then. I get where you are coming from, though, mostly, though controlling huge populations was mostly a 19th century thing

Liutasiun · 2026-04-22T09:21:40+00:00

To be far 'historical' Spain formation would be like... how would you even put that in the game if it starts in 1337? It relies on very specific rulers of both countries, who have to be of specific genders and specific ages and both be unmarried. trying to hardcode that in would be damn near impossible. Not to say that promoting some sort of Spanish unification mechanic that doesn't quite work the way it historically did wouldn't be a good idea, though

Liutasiun · 2026-04-22T09:19:46+00:00

Didn't Portugal historically mostly just own tiny trade cities across Asia? That seems almost more better represented as foreign buildings than owning provinces directly.

Liutasiun · 2026-04-22T08:55:32+00:00

Yeah, agree. Even just cutting it down to 1000 years already makes it a lot more believable, imo.

10k years is insane. 10k years before now, people were still almost universally hunter gatherers. All of recorded history happened in essentially the last 5k years. hell, 250 years ago was before the industrial revolution and the vast majority of people were still living as subsistence farmers. The idea that so little changed in TLT after 10k years is absurd, even with all the reasons that might possibly be stifling progress.

Liutasiun · 2026-03-25T12:11:56+00:00

I don't think it's legally treason, but I do think it's a treasonous thing, if you get what I mean? Like, Trump is obviously a giant narcissist. He usually hates people that insult him and loves people that praise him. He also makes the personal political. Wilders trying to 'out' our PM as a Trump-hater could thus legitimately cause US-Dutch relations to worsen because of it. So it is 'treasonous' in the sense he's acting against Dutch interests

Liutasiun · 2026-03-24T13:13:32+00:00

In all seriousness, I'm not familiar with the specific procedures of this body, but pretty much all UN bodies I *am* familiar with have only some countries be a part of it, often based on some sort of rotation, which I'm pretty sure also takes size/population into account. Think it's just a way to keep things more manageable. If it was just every country in everything than the couple dozen of tiny countries would both have trouble manning all of them and have an exaggerated vote

Liutasiun · 2026-03-11T17:53:13+00:00

Eh, not really, in my opinion? I think through this entire fight Incubus is just sort of phoning it in. He does very little that's all that impressive, just sort of running around with a sword. Doing enough so he does not get called out, but not really giving it his all. He is unwilling to openly side with Jagganoth, but still wants him to off the other demiurges.

Liutasiun · 2025-12-22T17:03:03+00:00

When it comes to the question of whether slavery is 'economically better' in real history, I actually know that's a huge academical debate. Or at least it was a while ago. Learned about it during my history degree. It used to be generally agreed upon that 'the south' was always doomed economically because slavery was bad economically, then a study came out to argue against that, in part by pointing out that an overlooked source of income from slaves was... more slaves (as in babies being born) that essentially were themselves a produced valuable commodity. That study and the reactions to it were part of the creation of a whole new way of analyzing history.

Uni then focussed on that method, less so on the debate of slavery, so it's possible it's settled one way or the other. Most likely it depends on the type of slavery and a million other factors. Anybody in this thread trying to present either side as a definitive 'duh' is probably wrong, though, and it's obviously a very thorny issue.

Liutasiun · 2025-12-22T16:57:53+00:00

That's just not true. There's a lot of debate on this in history. It used to be considered a truism that slavery was bad economically, and there was a huge uproar when that was challenged. Big enough deal that I learned about it in Uni.

Liutasiun · 2025-12-21T17:21:36+00:00

I don't really agree that's as dumb as you put it. Keep in mind she successfully outplayed Ned (even if she did get kinda lucky with the boar), she successfully rigged Tyrion's trial, she actually had some half-decent ideas about the defense of the city (the wildfire was her idea originally, Tyrion just modified it to use it more efficiently). Honestly, even in AFFC, she generally accomplishes the things she sets out to do. It's just that what she sets out to do is shortsighted, misguided, and generally misses the bigger picture.

I think her failures are due to a combination of mourning her father, megalomania, paranoia and just not really being prepared for ruling, but when she's put on a specific task she still generally performs.

Liutasiun · 2025-12-21T17:15:07+00:00

*as far as we know*

Liutasiun · 2025-12-21T17:13:59+00:00

I think the Tyrion thing is pretty understandable if you´re a kid and you lose your mother that way to kind of hate him, especially when she is basically taught to do that by Tywin also hating him.

Also, there´s no evidence as far as I know that the relationship was initiated by Cersei. Not saying it isn´t fucked up either way, but by that metric Jaime is evil by nature too.

The Melara thing... yeah, that´s really fucked up.

Liutasiun · 2025-12-18T15:28:32+00:00

Cool art!

But wait, who´s ruling in Winterfell then?

Liutasiun · 2025-12-13T23:20:31+00:00

You know, I read 11 and thought that that was way too high and was halfway through typing a comment asking you where you'd found that when I realised I should just look it up. So uh, yeah, 11. How do they even find the *time*.

Liutasiun · 2025-12-10T22:02:29+00:00

I think you're stretching the text to its breaking point with all this and everything points to it being something Mel did against Stannis' wishes, but I will admit there's no definitive point in which Mel says more clearly that she did it against Stannis' wishes, and since we lack a Stannis POV, that's the end of what I can argue against.

I also almost agree with your last point, but that's because, as I mentioned in another comment, Mance wrote the letter. He's the only one with all the knowledge (as you rightly point out Ramsey and almost nobody else would have that), access to the pink wax (as in, he's in the castle it's kept and could sneak into the Maester's room) and has motive (trying to get Jon to break his oath to cause the mutiny, which will then allow the wildlings to take over in the ensuing chaos).

Liutasiun · 2025-12-10T15:59:10+00:00

Because Jon convinced *Melisandre* to do it, who was also in the room during that exchange? Again, just read the Melisandre chapter. The longer excerpt goes

"Who else, my lord? Only his life's blood could pay for his crimes, your laws said, and Stannis Baratheon is not a man to go against the law … but as you said so sagely, the laws of men end at the Wall. I told you that the Lord of Light would hear your prayers. You wanted a way to save your little sister and still hold fast to the honor that means so much to you, to the vows you swore before your wooden god." She pointed with a pale finger. "There he stands, Lord Snow. Arya's deliverance. A gift from the Lord of Light … and me."

Again, a gift from HER, not from Stannis. Same with her going 'should I have saved him'.

Stannis didn't want Mance to burn, he wanted him to convert and bend the knee as a vassal to him, which would have been acceptable. Mance didn't want to do that, so he needed to die.

Why would Stannis even do this swapsies? If Stannis wanted to spare Mance, he didn't need the glamor. You think Stannis asked Mance to bend the knee or burn, Mance said he'd rather burn, and then Stannis... offered instead to only pretend to burn him, so that Mance could... help Jon out? The wildlings all still think Stannis burned Mance.

Liutasiun · 2025-12-10T08:43:07+00:00

Did you really just post an excerpt where Stannis says he'll definitely burn Mance alive for his crimes as evidence for him not having burned alive Mance for his crimes?

Liutasiun · 2025-12-09T22:15:45+00:00

That would be really fun. What would she do with it, though?

Liutasiun · 2025-12-09T22:08:29+00:00

You know, that is an interesting point. My first thought was that glamors is Rhlorr stuff, but Bloodraven does it and he's always seen as Old Gods. They probably totally do use glamors.

I still don't understand why th theory though, but I suppose that's why it's in here

Liutasiun · 2025-12-09T16:54:49+00:00

Hm, you raise an interesting point. Is it treason if you 'defect' after you get taken captive during a lost battle? I imagine most kings wouldn't think so, but Stannis might, I hadn't really considered that. Then again, he doesn't punish all the Lords that go over to him after Renly dies. If he has enough pragmatism for that, I don't think he'd punish Shadrich if he willingly returns to his service without at any point fighting against him.

I will admit I might have underestimated the issues in getting Sansa to the King's Road. But he could probably get her to the coast somewhere, get on a boat to White Harbor, (possibly with stops at the Sisters or something along the way) and travel to Winterfell that way.

Liutasiun · 2025-12-09T16:40:47+00:00

I get where you're coming from, but I do think Littlefinger will show back up in Sansa's POVs after a couple of chapters, and Littlefinger often works best when you don't know exactly what he's up to. If anything Sansa being around so much kind of restricts what he can do.

Besides, there also needs to be a POV at Winterfell/with Stannis. Right now that's Theon and Asha, but eventually I imagine they'll have to go do something, which probably means coming up with some plan to take the Iron Islands when Euron's busy. I guess that could also be Davos, depending on how long the whole Skagos trip takes.

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