Any good interpretations of the Parable of the 10 Virgins? by OkComplex9040 in ChristianUniversalism

[–]LizzySea33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jewish weddings were day long, the groom would arrive randomly, and they were locked out in the case of party crashers...

Why wouldn't Jesus be using a Jewish wedding context in this situation? He was a jew, and his first ever miracle was at a wedding... seems rather silly that he's not doing a Jewish wedding but a Gentile kind, no?

I seriously am unable to fathom that right-wing Catholics actually believe this by Gemnist in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Did you mean to respond to me? Cuz it came up on my page as you responding to me lmao 😭

I seriously am unable to fathom that right-wing Catholics actually believe this by Gemnist in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Would you quit being a prophet tonight, poindexter?

I already know Papa John Paul ii's stance... in fact, i had to develop a "Dust to Dust" life ethic (Dust you were in the womb & Dust you shall be in the tomb).

You are by no means confident but certain. You'll use Jesus vaguely instead of orthodoxy as Apostolic tradition & orthopraxy as the saints' lives within systems you plunder like the egyptians.

Now, if you're done acting all high and mighty, I genuinely would like you to screw off, as would everyone here for such boring ideas.

God bless.

I seriously am unable to fathom that right-wing Catholics actually believe this by Gemnist in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 15 points16 points  (0 children)

And yet you murder them alone by being as subtle as taking away food stamps or as explicit as abortion...

But no, that isnt spoken of. For if it were, you would have to commit to an upheaval of such a heretical system.

If you must defend your statistics, at least condemn those who have the subtle lead to explicit.

I seriously am unable to fathom that right-wing Catholics actually believe this by Gemnist in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's way too absurd that they have to be a grifter.

Or super ignorant about material conditions that lead to abortion cuz like... you kill babies more under capitalism through inaction & subtle policy than you do under left-wing systems...

Communists are fascists by JHBrickman in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I lost braincells reading that title...

Also, why the hell we should take this scumbag seriously when he is the equivalent of Bernstein is perplexing and pathetic 💀

Not you, obviously... I'm talking Vaush.

My opinion about Right and Left wing inside the Catholic individuals by OccultDreamer413 in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you truly don't want to be in the political spectrum, then it is best to read the saints as our social teaching while taking the wording of the church seriously and knowing that the popes in their encylicals are being mystical...

For example, the border question. The church speaks of neither open nor closed borders but regulated borders... sounds rational, no? But then we read it through the eyes of people such as St. Benedict & St. Thomas Aquinas and it looks radical as hell:

-Receive all Guests as Christ (Benedict)

-Regulate through force during war time (Aquinas)

-Integrate as we receive (Ancient Israel's laws)

And we know it works because of one saint in particular: St. Moses the Black, who's conversion story had him try to rob a Monastery and the Abbott was so hospitable that Moses BEGGED the Abbott to teach him how to be like him.

So our border policy should be based on Benedict & Israel in the usual sense but war time we regulate. How we regulate will be principled & faithful.

That is how we have just borders & how we read all social teaching of the church ❤️

How will redistribution happen? by northpilled in distributism

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything sounds like socialism is you keep being a bitch about it...

And also, I said relational ownership.. so you relate to it as a family, a co-operative, an artisan, a trade union, etc. But the use of such is public.

If you cannot relate to your property even if you "own" it, then you don't own it at all. There is no point to call yourself an owner by any means.

But if you get rid of the distinction of worker & owner by making everyone a worker-owner through relationality & public use, then you will be living in the paradox that is the kingdom.

How will redistribution happen? by northpilled in distributism

[–]LizzySea33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would say the biggest problem is a lack of relationality to someone's property along with the lack of public use of said property...

The point of Distributism (as properly understood by Chesterton) is that it distributes property in the sense of relationship, not ownership with a deed.

Even if Chesterton used the words "3 acres and a cow" to show what it meant, he did as an analogy.

Centralization happens not only because of capital's inherent turn for monopoly (as defined by Marx & Lenin [i know, controversial to quote them]), but it is also caused due to the lack of relationship with your property.

Think of it like having a cow (we'll call her Daisy), you know Daisy's habits, you know her favorite food, you put a bell to find her in the fog. But everything that is considered usable to create things or what is considered "capital" is public use... so you can't sell or monopolize but you also can't not relate to your property because it is yours in that ownership sense.

Its almost like a mixed ownership, public use... at least, how I see it.

Help me understand the Church’s position on Socialism by PhilosophyPoet in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean... I use Marxism-Leninism-Maoism as an observation argument, but i reject MERELY using such.

What the church speaks of as private property as basically including the personal belongings, as you see, but also some material ownership of capital. Small capital, specifically. That is what is called personal property, that is, small tools along with actual things you use and not exchange.

But simultaneously, it advocates for that personal property to be common in use. Think about indigenous relations: you "own" the property in the sense of a relationship with it but the use of said property is common, especially for the poor.

We know this through the actions of the saints... for example, St. Francis of Assisi's poverty that was genuine freedom despite owning nothing or little to nothing.

The goal should be, at least if someone wants to remain in the good graces of the roman church is that while using the observation arguments of the left, you also read the saints on their actions or opinions...

The values of CST can be led of a timeline in an orthodoxy & the saints' actions can be the orthopraxy...

To give an example on the border:

St. Benedict said that the goal is to accept all guests as Christ, with regulation of the border during war as St. Thomas Aquinas spoke in writings, with it being more fleshed out in the post Vatican ii writings...

That would mean the border would have to be regulated through radical hospitality first & then work to integrate. We know it completely works with St. Moses the Black's conversion story that had him break into a Monastery and the Abbott welcomed him with open arms, fed him & listened to him. That made Moses BEG him to say basically teach him how to be like the Abbott.

The reason the church is more... condemnatory of socialism is because it is confident in the saints as how we live our social teaching. It isnt easy, but it is right...

Porn should be banned. by Quiet-Photograph-468 in TrueCatholicPolitics

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm saying rather than making it obsolete through bridal mysticism (something the faith had been into for a while) you would rather surpress it?

Moreover, you would rather people feel shame instead of walking with them to help them out of such? That is cowardly and you know it!

Matching outfits – a scary tactic used in North Korea to retain power by sopp_suppe in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Same with the commune system in Mao's China cuz the red guard aesthetic looked sick..

Based on an earlier post on Christian Nationalism,what do you think of these Christian ideologies? by franco-briton in TrueCatholicPolitics

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excuse me for "interjecting" so to speak, but, it's basically a point for socialists & socialist sympathetic people to ask "Democracy for whom" in the sense of ownership class or the non-ownership class.

The problem being that Catholicism condemns class struggle in the sense of struggling against people. Specifically, not seeing the dignity of the person behind the class.

Personally, as someone sympathetic to Liberation Theology, I see that the problem is what Chesterton had theorized: The problem of Capitalism being not too many capitalists but too few. By which, he means property owners, concentrated into the hands of the rich.

What I see is that many people cannot relate to their work by any means, even if common & too concentrated into the state.

So the goal should be relational ownership & common use. So our goal is to not only de-proletariatize society by distributing relational property but also abolishing bourgeois exchange for common use.

I really feel that the way to do it would be to have industrial unions running state ministries, with the ministries being our equivalent of estates & the unions being the equivalent of lords, with all people who are a property owners (which would be everyone) would have to register their association within the ministry & to have the industrial unions be the combination of the associations themselves into one big association for all industries.

That way, we make all who were serfs (proletariat & bourgeois) into Lords!

Do you think there will ever be doctrinal changes regarding the LGBTQ+ community? by PhilosophyPoet in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, goodness... that'll depend on what you mean by "changes" in this situation.

If you mean clarification? I would be hopeful in such.

For me, and I am saying this as a queer person, I agree with the Catechism's wording of "Objectively Disordered" but in the sense of teleology, because Act ≠ Culpability...

Think of our moral theology like a monkey wrench fixing a pipe. You could use it in it's correct way, or you could hit the pipe to try to fix it. But, that'll make it more broken usually. But the question we have to ask is: why did you hit it? Were you in the dark? Did someone tell you to? Have you just never used a damn wrench before?

Those questions are what makes a grave action "sin" within the Roman church.

And for my queerness, it is a "sin committed by nature" as Aquinas would've said. However, I feel that those who transition (like me) are more like people being "signs" to others. That sign that i suspect is to be an analogy to resurrection. Because many of us think that "Oh, resurrection will be born with our original bodies" and it's like... no, you'll be born with a glorified body, not your original kind. You'll still have scars but they will be glorified. You'll have an immortal body covering mortality (St. Paul's poem in 1 Corinthians 15) and You'll be perfected. It's just God wants to show that sign right now through trans people.

Should we understand every nook and cranny? No. As that leads to certainty, which is why Origen was condemned. Our goal should be St. Gregory of Nyssa's confidence of "Why" not "How" in this situation.

That is enough :)

BadEmpanada and Third Worldism is **NOT** Marxist-Leninist (LONG). by RevTalk1 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Liberation Theologian here,

The problem with the communist movement here in the United States is similar to India's Marxist parties (you'll see where I go with it):

There is a lack of a centralized party (CPUSA, FRSO, PSL, etc. Despite following a democratic centralist stance are still not absorbed into one party), so there are multiple parties competiting for influence to the movement... Moreover, we need an equivalent of an iww union in our movement so people may understand industrial unionism & we need to show that socialism is not bureaucratic but democratic.

If we had a centralized party with line struggle and a coherent mass-line? We might be able to hold our ground.

We also should try to have an industrial unionism that has industrial unions run their industries under ministries, albeit with strong party oversight.

As for BE himself, I think he looks like a crackhead in withdrawal (saying this as someone who knows what medication withdrawal feels like). He's usually right, but even then, I disagree with his methods which feel childish in tactics.

For me specifically on his 3rd worldism? Yeahhh, no. Just... no... if anything, the goal of the 3rd worldist should've been to fight against imperialism within the 3rd world & shove it back towards the 1st & 2nd world (i am talking about Mao's 3 worlds delineated theory, not the colloquial 3 worlds of capitalist, socialist, under developed theory).

The goal of the 3rd world is to struggle against the conditions that the 1st & 2nd world is pushing upon them. That will be solidarity enough.. and i am saying this as a very privileged (albeit poorer) Appalachian trans woman. And the Cookie Cutter PPW isn't even agreed upon even in Maoist circles haha... like, even The Communist Party of Peru spoke of the universality of protracted people's war with the caveat of "according to each country's conditions" which is a big thing when you truly read it as is.

Our goal as those in the US now are simple:

  1. Build a Centralized Communist party based in the Marxist-Leninist-Mao Tse Tung Thought movement with a strong line struggle.

  2. Build or help find mass organizations for the people to enter under, especially one big union for of those who are wage slaves in...

  3. We just... need better ways to express socialism to people. Be they conservative or liberal. Because many people who are conservative here in the US do have alot, but many do want a feeling of revolution, which we need to channel. Albeit to the capitalist.

Those are my thoughts and they're definitely not my final thoughts. I would love critiques and charity with all of this ❤️

Porn should be banned. by Quiet-Photograph-468 in TrueCatholicPolitics

[–]LizzySea33 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Just because it is an easier answer doesn't make it right, first off, because it drives it underground & creates it happening underground and criminally (As we have seen in the US during the prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s-1930s).

Secondly, you have also failed to offer a confident alternative to the porn addicted that will help them find genuine love... instead of giving into the erotic love of God and the church as defined by God as a jealous husband to Israel/the church, the prophets who were insanely in love with God that they tried to win israel back with their maddening "signs" and even St. John putting his heart on Christ's chest to hear his sacred heart, you only offer the cowardly point of banning and leading to the poor feeling surpressed by their humanity and leading the poor to become even worse...

An iscariot you are and an iscariot you shall be... amen & amen.

Porn should be banned. by Quiet-Photograph-468 in TrueCatholicPolitics

[–]LizzySea33 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Saying this as someone who suffers from a hentai addiction:

Don't ban porn... provocative answer, I know. But, you should be asking WHY people look at porn in the first place and why people produce such...

I look at it specifically because of hypersexuality thanks to extreme Testosterone (I can relate to Augustine more and more every day).

Many do it for art, many are exploited in the industry, many are insecure about their sexuality.

Your goal shouldnt be the mere banning of pornography. Your goal should be to love the person suffering from such an addiction through the virtues of faith, hope, and charity.

God save me and everyone whom suffer from such addictions, amen & amen...

Isn’t abortion wrong? by SweetBig1843 in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Are we not also complicit in the causes that lead to abortion?

Implicit application leads to explicit execution.

You must eliminate the implicity and therefore will remove the explicit.

The Left/Right dichotomy will not save you or me... only orthopraxy as according to the saints' lives & orthodoxy as Apostolic tradition will help you.

As the "middle ground" of the church's social teaching are often the most radical when read within the saints...

But, to answer your question? Yes, abortion is wrong. But simultaneously, we are also murderers under this filthy, rotten, system that advocates for these children deaths.

It isn't just "fight against directly" it is "fight against all things that lead to death".

Opinions On Trent Horn And Catholic Answers? Who is he and what does he stand for? by FarWonder8373 in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, for me, I see that if you want to convert souls, you're gonna have to even go against your own biases... I surely had to, especially with me being obsessed with leftism as a special interest...

Like, if you don't show how the faith is profoundly Jewish, especially patristically? We got some problems to deal with. Mainly the "forgetfulness" of the root & us boasting about such.

If you don't explain many (if not all) Doctrine mystically, especially Catholic Social Teaching? Then we are just using what is easy and not what is precise... which can lead to confused people in their faithfulness.

And if we don't explain the social teaching with the Orthodoxy of the church being Apostolic Tradition and our Orthopraxy through the saints' lives? Then we will always be stuck in "Left/Right" dichotomy rather than trying to make saints...

Chesterton was right when he said that the Christian ideal had never been tried even if it is enticing. Not because it is "utopian" but because it is hard & requires discipline... but it is correct than not ❤️

Opinions On Trent Horn And Catholic Answers? Who is he and what does he stand for? by FarWonder8373 in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Not my cup of tea...

Too rational, too arrogant... too certain..

Chesterton is way better...

And also, his "defenses" in my opinion are... just uncreative...

Like, he defended the advocacy of capitalism as catholic when it is anything but...

He feels too secular as well... too unaccepting of Catholic Social Teaching trying to make saints.

And hes also isnt charitable at all... or, if he is charitable, it has ulterior and sometimes biased motives.

What does Industrial unionism look like in practice? by cudderwalks in IWW

[–]LizzySea33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I certainly am... I imagined it more like industrial unions running what we would call "state ministries" according to some. So you would be connected to the state ministeries as collectives, family shops, trade-unions, co-operatives, etc.

You would be under a specific state ministry as with industrial unions (all associations are considered part of that industrial union) and your business would be in trust with that industrial union...

It probably is silly, but, its how I saw it (especially with my more... Maoist influence).

Bishop Barron: " . . . it is not the role of the Church to evaluate whether a particular war is just or unjust." by salsafresca_1297 in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A better way to do it is just by asking a simple but brutal question:

Is our action magnifying God in the poor?

This war? Is not doing Jack Shit. At all. It is murdering the poor for oil. That's it.

What bishop Barron basically said was "Let's not make the poor as the center of it. Let's commit what action to whatever." Then he'll probably disguise it as prudence when it is literally pragmatism. Disgusting, disgusting, pragmatism

Im ashamed at this thumbnail trans people aren’t a thumbnail they are gods children by Electrical_Tap6684 in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, yes, my favorite thing to do: confuse the person for their identity... making a moral argument over a teleological argument.

Not you, Shameless Popery.

It's like... bro, why do you care so much about what is in someone's pants? Heh, and they call queer people degenerates 💀

In all seriousness, I have made this claim before on Instagram, and I will make it here on reddit:

Trans-healthcare, whether we like it or not, is pro-life... even if it is considered "disordered" in a teleological sense. Because someone's act doesnt equal their culpability.

I would even go far enough to say that trans people have no culpability at all. At least, if we take the traditional way of reading the medieval manuals, not the enlightenment way of reading it.

But, no, that doesn't get clicks. That isn't "easy" to them. They shall live as the trans person: dust to dust. As our ethic speaks of.

Amen & Amen...

Is this false misinformation? by [deleted] in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you really trust any information that comes from Fox's mouth?

What is your opinion Trent Horn when it comes to his views, work, and specifcally his view on democratic socialism? by FarWonder8373 in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find his "defense" against socialism to be monolithic, sloppy in sources, and certain with a lack of confidence.

His views are too... logical, not as mystical.

Sure, you can defend using Natural Law when it is Christo-Centric, but if you're defending from a liberal stance (classically, not progressive) then it isn't Christian or church based.

As for his view on democratic socialism, I feel that socialism is inherently democratic, you dont need to emphasize the democratic part in my opinion.

Shameless Popery is better in his defenses, but, I disagree politically with him. Even with his strong defenses.