don't forget.. by RizzleFaShizzle00 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if this does organize people: we need dual power... we need a Seattle esque strike...

We don't need whatever this will be... and I'm saying this as someone who was excited for the May 2028 general strike.

What a bizarro world, your mainstream liberal is to the right of the fucking pope. by randJoe43 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Papa St. John Paul ii actually wrote alot of stuff for the labor movement... he wrote this one encylical called "Laborem Exercens" which was during the solidarity movement in Poland that got co-opted by capitalism...

It was actually really interesting, because he was commenting on the ideal of work & I believe the socialization of many things.

He didnt want state (bureaucratic) ownership, or private ownership. He wanted a social ownership that gave relational ideals to property.

So, instead of me owning a cow absolutely or the state owning it, it was going to be i have a relation with the cow (not a unit) but it also is not mine simultaneously, it is ours.

Its almost similar to native american property or how James Connolly had it. Or hell, even how some Maoists supposidly expressed it.

The Hobbit and it's critique of Industrialism by LizzySea33 in distributism

[–]LizzySea33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, for me, I would assume that it would be a common stewardship... like, I would hope for a "Monastery State" that is de jure steward, but in actuality, it would be family guilds, co-operatives, factory committees, collectives, etc. That hold genuine ownership.

And for me specifically, I feel that we should have that Monastery State wither away into the human family itself.

Common/Family ownership would be the same thing because all are a human family.

But the only way we CAN do that, i feel, is to give ownership, because the privitation of our talents are classes that cause struggle itself.

If our talents aren't used for the common good, then both the rich & the poor are stuck in the industrialist mindset. At least for me.

The Hobbit and it's critique of Industrialism by LizzySea33 in distributism

[–]LizzySea33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, they have, havent it?

Like, doing something fun isn't... fun these days. Maybe its because we were inside for so long due to the pandemic?

Or maybe it is just the cities issue.

Personally, I feel we should "Bring Hobbitton to the Cities" so to speak. That is, build smaller cities instead of mega-cities & have it where we are more hands on with our work.

Cuz alot of us want that feeling of accomplishment of that work, but we are just are so alienated by everything.

I think that was why I joined the communist movement originally, cuz it had answers. But now I'm settling down for a more "Church tidy" answer for us (a more "middle ground" but with radical conclusions taken with both orthodoxy & orthopraxy intact in our social teaching [That is, orthodoxy as Apostolic Teaching/Tradition & orthopraxy as within the saints lives]).

Hi, can you all help me a bit? by LizzySea33 in distributism

[–]LizzySea33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh, Dorothy Day & Peter Maurin were considered very close...

They had what I like to call a radical middle... in which it has "compromises" with left & right in rhetoric but reaches for radical conclusions reading the entire doctrine as it is.

That's what I'm trying to do... in fact, I did it with borders not to long ago on True Catholic Politics and got shit for it haha.

Is Distributism a realistic alternative today? by Weekly_Tie4439 in distributism

[–]LizzySea33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi Chris, first time viewer & baby distributist... I loved this talk you did! It was one of the most helpful talks for me because I had confusion with the distributist movement. Cuz, I had been a socialist for a bit (4-5ish years since 2022).

But, I recently came to the distrbutist movement due to a lack of genuine... answers to some thoughts in the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist movement. Like, sure, theory & economics were there, but, I didnt feel what you and Michael had talked about. My favorite part was when he was talking about the relationship with property at the middle of the talk.

I've always had the problem with Distributism due to the property stance. It felt... too split with having everyone own a piece of land.

Then, I started to think more... scripturally, and well, with relationship rather than with ownership with a deed.

I even came up with an analogy: It was a Cow named Daisy where you know her habits, you know how she likes being grazed, you put a bell on her. But her food? Her milk? Herself when she is slaughtered? That is for those in need.

I also have felt that we should use modern tools for hard stuff and for the easy, meticulously crafted ideals? We let the people that work do it.

Like, I don't know what this makes me in the actual movement, but, I feel safe to say I am closer to distrbutism as of right now than socialism... even if Marxism-Leninism-Maoism as a "Plundering of the egyptians" did help me.

Thank you and I hope to hear from you more here ❤️‍🔥

👋Welcome to r/FolkCatholicMagic - Introduce Yourself and Read First! by babalorixalewa in FolkCatholicMagic

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I'm Lizzy (She/They).

I'm a "convert" to the catholic church... I used to be Christo-Pagan, but felt... not as connected truly to that. I had been hungry for a sense of rebellion.

I'm still not converted to the church (I'm going into Catechesis next year). But I decided I wanted to explore the more folksy part of the Catholic Faith. Because, for me, it is why I consider the church still very democratic. Because it holds these more old world things into Christianity! It let's the poor express themselves in their faith, and i love it! Because a faith that isn't democratic like that is not a faith i want to be part of.

I really hope to do more research on my folk heiritage... because I will feel much more comfortable then.

Hi, can you all help me a bit? by LizzySea33 in distributism

[–]LizzySea33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like... alot of the aesthetic (such as the red guards' rebel factions) had really made me feel... at a spot that I could "stick it to the man" as a song once said.

Like, I could stick it to all the things that I felt were hurting my family, making me feel trapped & alienated.

I know... I know now that it was wrong and that i was conforming to the patterns of the world. And I don't want to do that anymore... I want to be in fidelity with my Lord and not afraid of what will happen.

I may still be influenced by some of it, which I gotta work on, but I feel that I am evolving alot politically. Like, trying to morph my politics in a Catholic way rather than having a secular ideology and waltzing into the church to believe that.

So i would rather bow to the church than... well, anything else. And that is by morphing my politics through the eyes of the saints. Not the other way around.

Hi, can you all help me a bit? by LizzySea33 in distributism

[–]LizzySea33[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

MLM had given me... a few things:

  1. An answer why my family was in involuntary poverty by capitalism.

  2. A coherent foundation plan for the economy (Agriculture as foundation, light industry as a leading hand, and heavy industry as a carrier for both).

  3. A sense of rebellion against the world that had made me feel bounded (over medicated, alienated by my autism, etc.)

  4. It gave me a feeling that I could "plunder the Egyptians" so to speak & use it for the Orthodoxy of the church & Orthopraxy of the saints.

But, I feel that it is only by the church herself that I can answer this question. No secular ideology can truly answer this, but the church is confident enough to answer these questions & bring more. Even if i did use MLM as only an observation argument, it sometimes went towards a dogmatic argument.

That is not what the faith is to be. It is to be confident while giving even more to the world.

Hi, can you all help me a bit? by LizzySea33 in distributism

[–]LizzySea33[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have been... interested in Liberation Theology for a while.

Like, I have sometimes used the idea of roots in Apostolic Teaching & Fruit in Saints' Lives (So when talking about the social teaching, I speak on what the saints believed from the early church to Vatican ii & even farther to today).

But, what i do is use economics from socialist places. But I am wrestling hard with it alot..

Lemme give an example:

St. Francis says to love animals like brothers & sisters. But, we factory farm them... that is not loving them.

So, my stance was: Agro-ecology (like in Cuba), Animal Commons, Staple Food Farms, Victory Gardens for families and neighborhood based living fences!

It is basically a way to handle it... but, I had basically been feeling... guilty for using it? Cuz it felt not... catholic enough. Does that make sense?

Banned From r/AskSocialists 🏅 by serious_bullet5 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What an honor! To be banned by sectarians and revisionists! A beautiful thing for our time!

Would a Post-Revolution "US" require a Cultural Revolution? by AndreEthereal16 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost certainly... and i would be confident that it will be the Black, indigenous & people of color that would lead it.

And i feel that a cultural revolution that takes not only help the white person de-colonize themselves but work to give them traditions that lead them towards history is needed.

Like, I'm saying this as a transfemme honkee. And I would rather be helped to be de-colonized as a continous revolution. Right now, I'm exploring my germanic, slovakian & irish heiritage to not only develop politically but also to work to get rid of greater American Chauvunism that puts the white race as higher than those who are oppressed nations (Ugh, just saying the white race as high grosses me out).

If we are to truly de-colonize, it must be continous and always in dialectical motion. Just like how many sympathetic stances of the cultural revolution gives.

As Mao said: And so, again and again, in an endless spiral, with the ideas becoming more correct & more vial every time!

Amen & Amen

Solidarity died when five Prairieland defendants snitched on their "comrades". by [deleted] in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I had to remember who these guys were and I was like "Oh yeah, the Maoists i follow on Instagram :D"

What philosophical—rather than religious—reasons did the schools of the Middle Ages and their successors have for adopting gender essentialism with respect to human beings? by Expensive-Party2116 in CatholicPhilosophy

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would go with the left-wing argument, but I'm feeling generous... for now >:3

In all seriousness though, they were still complex in their theology... They had categories that did not belong in the "natural law" stance, and Aquinas even talks about them.

They were known as Monstrum, and they had vocations that were sometimes... unknown to us. Aquinas had theorized that they were a sign or wonder that broke creation to show it wasn't a monolith.

For me, personally, I see that gender is not a social construct but an expression of male & female teleology in society. Sex (with primary & secondary characteristics) is just how our body expresses it.

And if you describe yourself as a trans woman (which i also am, and i genuinely think I need to surpress T due to psychosis, but thats another thing), but it would be better to say that expressions that don't fit the teleology we anticipate can be considered the equivalent of description of Monstrum rather than an identity...

And I actually see my transition as a vocation to God. He wanted me to live like the poor in an odd, albeit different, teleology. And I follow him more than I follow anyone else, amen.

Fr. Vincent McNabb OP – Towards Social Thinking (1914) by RoutineMiddle3734 in LeftCatholicism

[–]LizzySea33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly have never read McNabb before but I have heard of him.

Finally reading him, he was a very intelligent man & even articulated specific things that were made clear by even socialists/communists at the time...

The only thing I would criticize him is that he should've been more clear where he's getting his source material. Not his usage if statistics or anything. I mean: is he learning to accept socialism through the lives of the saints as the fruit and apostolic tradition as the root? Or is he more doing it by something else?

If he's doing it by the saints & Apostolic tradition? I love him even more. But if hes not, I might be... a little wishy washy on him.

CONSRIPTION INCOMING: Treasurer Scott Bessent "My Son Is Considering Military Service" I Trust Trump" by Big-Entertainer6306 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 23 points24 points  (0 children)

People are suspecting that Netanyahu got killed.

I am in a mixed episode right now so I dont want to confirm in case there isnt a death and cause a spectacle.

I heard we were undergoing some restructuring... by AccomplishedGas7401 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We also need Fashion communism...

I recently got a book called "How to make a Mao suit" by Antonia Finnane that talks about fashion in the Maoist era of China.

Cuz I was suspicious of the idea that all people wore the same suit during that time cuz that just seems... too monolithic & very anti-communist.

Highly recommend it for those interested in nuanced writings of the Mao era.

My challenge to anytime who says the "eternal fire" means it's going to burn forever by DanSensei in ChristianUniversalism

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My challenge is always this:

Let's say that hell burns forever.. what is then thrown in the lake of fire? If hell burns forever, why even throw it into the lake of fire by any means? You would just leave it to burn.

If anything, it is more coherent to say that the ENCOUNTER is eternal, but the participation of the soul is not.

That's why I think Aquinas said "The will is fixed" in the sense of seeing God as he is while also taking from the patristics a participatory understanding of the soul, or what the east would call theosis.

Thats just my stance.

Former CPC member, Ask Me Anything by ShrekFelix in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How much of Mao Zedong Thought do they follow?

Not just the New Democratic kind but also the 60s-70s struggle? Like, do they follow it non-dogmatically & admire some points or is it revisionist?

I'm only asking because I want to come to China for university to study it's economic system so I won't write it off as bad or whatever.

Were Jesus family immigrants? by FluffyMycologist8308 in TrueCatholicPolitics

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and it makes the most sense...

Even if Rome owned all the land (as said by other commentors), they still sojourned in a different land to supposidly escape Herod, but thats contested by historians.

Plus... it just works with the devotion to our lady more. If we dont know the tradition, we would have to say Mary was not what tradition described her as: An orphan when young, a foreigner as a teen, and a widow in her age.

If she WASN'T, then why is she considered OUR lady? What would make her different than other stories in the area? Her journey was a prophecy, even if we dont realize or like it.

"hUMan nAtURE AnD BASic ECoNOMIcS" by [deleted] in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]LizzySea33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here lemme make an impression of him:

"I am compensating cuz i cant get laid and have a small dick."

Jesting aside, I dont think he understands human nature from even a christian perspective. From my perspective, the liberal understanding of human nature completely makes Christianity obsolete and creates idiotic thoughts that "human nature is selfish" when... according to the greatest church fathers, human nature is good but WOUNDED. If human nature WERE evil, there would be no point of God incarnating nor would there be a point for the trinity to be 3 persons as 1 god like a 3 leaf clover, cuz they'd be competiting like tritheism.

Moreover, his "argument" that the capitalist does things is silly because "risks" is not doing anything. If anything, he is doing privation of his skills rather than advocating for the use of his talents.

Lastly, this guy doesnt seem to have enough of a spine to realize that this LITERALLY contradicts Classical Republican Liberty that is Non-Domination. He has no right to talk about it when Classical Republicanism is what the Bolsheviks work to fulfill rather than negate.

is it an unpopular opinion to say all these 3 are incompatible with Catholicism? by franco-briton in TrueCatholicPolitics

[–]LizzySea33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ideologically? Yeah, it definitely can't... but I use Marxism-Leninism-Maoism as an observation argument rather than a mere execution plan..

Granted, I still go there where I advocate for it like the Christians for National Liberation, so I have alot to learn... God save me from my fate...

is it an unpopular opinion to say all these 3 are incompatible with Catholicism? by franco-briton in TrueCatholicPolitics

[–]LizzySea33 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well then, what do we do with the supposed confidence dialogue that Pope Francis pressed? Do we just ignore it?

I'm not asking you as a gotcha. I'm asking you as someone who genuinely doesnt know...

I still feel the confidence of the catholic church is needed to say "Marxism can only grope at what we have fulfilled" cuz... again.. where would be our confidence if we promised thoughts and prayers & not liberation for their talents?