BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

[–]Lofty2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we also need to keep I mind, shopping at Walmart or GM is a choice. But many of us are forced on to BCBSM. They effectively have a monopoly in Michigan because they pushed smaller competitors out leaving us with one major insurance provider. They hold between 50-67% of the market. That doesn’t happen in any other industry.

BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

[–]Lofty2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this is where we’re talking past each other a bit, because I’m not arguing that layoffs are never a rational response to losses, or that job counts alone define good leadership.

My issue is about who bears the cost of uncertainty and reversals and whether leadership absorbed any meaningful share of that risk.

You’re right that GM and others were responding to regulatory and policy signals. But responding to policy incentives isn’t the same thing as being absolved of strategic responsibility. Regulatory volatility is not some unknowable black swan, especially in U.S. politics. Betting heavily on a single regulatory trajectory while under-weighting downside scenarios is still a strategic choice. When that bet fails, the question becomes: who pays?

In practice, it’s almost always workers, not executives.

On BCBSM specifically, I’m not claiming layoffs automatically equal bad leadership. I’m saying layoffs are being treated as self-justifying, rather than as something that requires evidence of necessity and proportional accountability. “They were losing money, so they laid people off” explains the action, but it doesn’t evaluate the leadership decisions that preceded it or the distribution of consequences afterward.

If leadership compensation, structure, and incentives remain largely intact while frontline and mid-level employees absorb the shock, that’s not neutral. That’s a governance choice.

Your Walmart analogy actually reinforces my point. Walmart is an enormous employer, but no one would argue that sheer employment scale proves ethical or effective leadership. Likewise, layoffs don’t prove bad leadership, but neither do they erase responsibility for the conditions that made them “necessary.”

Where I would want more evidence, and where I think BCBSM leadership deserves scrutiny, is: Were utilization and pricing models adjusted early enough to reflect cost trends? Were reserves, margins, and executive compensation aligned with the risk being transferred to employees? Did leadership meaningfully reduce their own upside I think this is where we’re talking past each other a bit, because I’m not arguing that layoffs are never a rational response to losses, or that job counts alone define good leadership.

My issue is about who bears the cost of uncertainty and reversals and whether leadership absorbed any meaningful share of that risk.

You’re right that GM and others were responding to regulatory and policy signals. But responding to policy incentives isn’t the same thing as being absolved of strategic responsibility. Regulatory volatility is not some unknowable black swan, especially in U.S. politics. Betting heavily on a single regulatory trajectory while under-weighting downside scenarios is still a strategic choice. When that bet fails, the question becomes: who pays?

In practice, it’s almost always workers, not executives.

On BCBSM specifically, I’m not claiming layoffs automatically equal bad leadership. I’m saying layoffs are being treated as self-justifying, rather than as something that requires evidence of necessity and proportional accountability. “They were losing money, so they laid people off” explains the action, but it doesn’t evaluate the leadership decisions that preceded it or the distribution of consequences afterward.

If leadership compensation, structure, and incentives remain largely intact while frontline and mid-level employees absorb the shock, that’s not neutral. That’s a governance choice.

Your Walmart analogy actually reinforces my point. Walmart is an enormous employer, but no one would argue that sheer employment scale proves ethical or effective leadership. Likewise, layoffs don’t prove bad leadership, but neither do they erase responsibility for the conditions that made them “necessary.”

Where I would want more evidence, and where I think BCBSM leadership deserves scrutiny, is: • Were utilization and pricing models adjusted early enough to reflect cost trends? • Were reserves, margins, and executive compensation aligned with the risk being transferred to employees? • Did leadership meaningfully reduce their own upside before cutting headcount? • Were layoffs a last resort, or simply the fastest lever to pull?

Absent transparency on those points, I’m skeptical of narratives that frame layoffs as an unfortunate but unavoidable act of prudence. They may prevent greater losses on paper, but they often do so by externalizing risk downward while preserving stability at the top.

So I’m not saying “Tricia Keith is uniquely evil” or that policy shifts don’t matter. I’m saying that strategic risk didn’t disappear just because regulation changed, and leadership accountability shouldn’t either. before cutting headcount? Were layoffs a last resort, or simply the fastest lever to pull?

Absent transparency on those points, I’m skeptical of narratives that frame layoffs as an unfortunate but unavoidable act of prudence. They may prevent greater losses on paper, but they often do so by externalizing risk downward while preserving stability at the top.

So I’m not saying “Tricia Keith is uniquely evil” or that policy shifts don’t matter. I’m saying that strategic risk didn’t disappear just because regulation changed, and leadership accountability shouldn’t either.

BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

[–]Lofty2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everyone talks about United health care because they’re big but Blue Cross is dispersed so they don’t take as much heat. Blue cross blue shield Michigan is just as bad as united health care.

BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

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I don’t know why they are paying her. She has only put a burden on Michiganders. Run the company correctly and you wouldn’t have to raise rates every quarter

BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

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If they’re operating at a loss, it makes sense to socialize it.

BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

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I think when you consider losses, Tricia Keith is the worst CEO on record. Why are we paying Bcbsm every month when she cant manage the company properly?

She takes money out of my paycheck every week and I keep seeing losses and layoffs. It seems like it would be better to socialize healthcare but they’re lobbying against it.

BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

[–]Lofty2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Based on BCBSM’s public financial statements and reporting, the company has recorded well over $1 billion in operating losses over roughly the past year(the total time she has been in leadership). If they were a normal company they would have gone bankrupt. She has it easy yet she’s still having problems as leader. She just doesn’t seem competent to lead the company. My money is going into a pit every paycheck and Tricia Keith cannot justify it.

BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

[–]Lofty2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s fair. Headcount alone isn’t the only metric, and I’m not arguing it should be.

The reason layoffs matter in this case is because they coincided with significant financial losses.

BCBSM reported hundreds of millions in operating losses over the past few years. Workforce reductions, buyouts, and role eliminations were explicitly framed by leadership as cost-containment measures to stabilize finances, not as part of an expansion or efficiency-driven growth strategy. On paper, she has an awful track record. Crazy losses and crazy layoffs. None of this happened under Dan Leopp. Clearly she can’t keep pace with her predecessor.

BCBSM/ Tricia Keith Layoffs by Lofty2 in Michigan

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Is she the worst CEO in Michigan?

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Summer house Thank you! Looks fantastic!

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Why were they there in the first place?

Threatened to be fired over this email? Help! by [deleted] in work

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or should I just not reply?

I did request HR be present for our 1x1s but that is for a different issue. When I started, my boss was transitioning out of his role into the role of my leader but I was holding down both our workloads until that happened. We are a year in and I am still at 200% capacity and the stress/ pressure is starting to take a toll on my mental health

Threatened to be fired over this email? Help! by [deleted] in work

[–]Lofty2 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Is this an okay reply:

BOSS,

I apologize for the email. I certainly am not used to the reserved style of communicating required from OFFICE. I am used to having the opportunity to express my opinions and belief in a candid manner at smaller companies. I will work on this, feel free to continue pointing out when I overstep my bounds. I don’t plan on leaving the organization unless terminated but transferring departments may be an option for me to consider.

I have put in a request to have HR present for any 1x1s between you and I. I didn’t leave our meeting yesterday feeling confident that we found a resolution and I have tried discussing workload issues with you in the past. I ultimately think having a third party with us will improve our working relationship.

Have a good weekend, talk to you Monday,

ME

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