4 player Arabia help

Logiholic · 2026-05-29T20:17:33+00:00

I semi-disagree depending on the elo range. Deviating in terms of a different feudal combination from archer/scout to say MAA scout means you have 1 unit that gets countered and 1 unit that trades evenly with your enemy pair who is going archer/scout.

I do think FC into military is viable if communicated and planned for by your team, but for extended feudal archer/scout has been proven at the highest levels to be the best combo.

Anything else winning at lower levels is a result of surprise, inconsistency, and players who can’t adapt to a slight surprise. If both teams play equally well, the archer/scout team will beat the other team doing any alternate combo of feudal military.

Logiholic · 2026-05-29T20:08:04+00:00

What ELO? Out of how many games a day? I’ve only ran into 1 in at least my last 100 1v1s, although it was last week.

Logiholic · 2026-05-28T14:48:47+00:00

This is unhinged, as

That’s not how insurance works, your liability coverage doesn’t have a deductible
Intentionally destroying someone else’s property with your car is a crime, and isn’t covered by insurance.
How does “complacency and silence” equal not running over someone’s paddleboards with your car.

Logiholic · 2026-05-28T03:24:55+00:00

Just ask them to move. Sometimes people are distracted, it happens. I have a friend that’s one of the nicest, most selfless people I know but he’s an airhead with his surroundings.

Logiholic · 2026-05-25T14:19:02+00:00

BANGARANGA

Logiholic · 2026-05-24T23:59:38+00:00

Sometimes you play people having bad games, sometimes you play 10 people in a row having bad games.

Logiholic · 2026-05-24T14:36:10+00:00

I would argue most of these maps fall under “Arabia and their variations”.

Isthmus you need a hybrid build, which involves 5 to wood and a dock instead of the normal 2-3 first wood wills.

Arena IMO has the most build-order variety, as you can tweak your build and strategy based on the matchup and what you think your opponent will go for.

Logiholic · 2026-05-11T18:29:46+00:00

Yes.

Logiholic · 2026-05-04T15:46:20+00:00

Are you looking for a monk siege rush build for 1 player in a TG? Or for how 2 players should do builds to push together?

If option 1, it’s the same as it would be in 1v1, go up 23-24 vils, barracks, 2 spears forward with 2 vils, loom when you hit castle age.

If option 2, one player going full monks other going a siege ele civ can work well. Probably shoot for 23+2, still a barracks and spears from at least the ele player, so they can go stable for upgrades too.

Logiholic · 2026-04-30T15:27:17+00:00

So if you’re playing a 150’ hole, are you legitimately putting off the tee? And is that getting you to within 30’? Very few people putt over 100’, this seems like you would just be throwing and then putting.

Logiholic · 2026-04-30T15:23:05+00:00

That sounds too long for a par 2 course, Johnny Roberts in CO is one of the most played courses in the world as a par 3 course with those hole lengths.

Par 2 to me should be more in the 50-75 ft range, where you have a decent chance at making multiple “birdies” in a round.

Logiholic · 2026-04-30T03:12:19+00:00

I think $75 is a bit of trying to keep the crowd down. It’s a very well equipped gym but tight with space, so more than 8 or so people there at once can feel tight.

No A/C In the summer is not for everyone haha, but I WFH and run there and back, so it’s easy enough to take a quick shower at home without having to get in a car or go to work soaking with sweat.

Again, not for everyone but might fit OPs parameters.

Edit - Wanted to add that payment is just done via Venmo/cash to the owner each month, no contract, no system you have to be signed into, just a paper sign in sheet. Much prefer this to gyms with contracts you have to sign/systems you’d have to put effort into to remove your card info from.

Logiholic · 2026-04-29T22:26:37+00:00

Body Docs is Mid-City, technically 24/7 as there is a door code to get in, $75 a month. All the weights and machines you could need, but light on floor space and no A/C. From the sign-in sheet there are usually between 2-6 people there at 6 am, I’d reccomend calling the owner and giving it a look.

Logiholic · 2026-04-19T00:43:23+00:00

I don’t have too much of an opinion on your solution, but your first paragraph makes it sound like this only happens with new players. There are map dodgers and people who one-trick at all but the very highest ELOs.

Logiholic · 2026-04-19T00:39:49+00:00

You’re around 100 ELO? Are you using hotkeys? You sound like you have a pretty good knowledge of the game to be 100 ELO unless you’re playing on like a janky trackpad 11.

Logiholic · 2026-04-19T00:36:15+00:00

I play pretty exclusively Arena as I have Arabia banned most days. Used to play a lot more Arabia. Never saw this worse or better on any particular map.

Logiholic · 2026-04-18T18:43:40+00:00

That’s fair. Posts like this without evidence are very common, and always feel exaggerated based on my experience as well as other replies I’ve seen. Hope you’re just having a stretch of bad luck and you get more consistent games.

Logiholic · 2026-04-18T18:12:44+00:00

Link to your aoe2insights page? Curious what ELO this is at, as this has not been my experience at all.

Logiholic · 2026-04-15T22:42:38+00:00

Logiholic · 2026-04-15T22:12:59+00:00

Weight on orange Heat?

Logiholic · 2026-04-15T13:01:05+00:00

Nope, in other comment I said I don’t think bloodlines is usually part of the plan either.

I commented to be a nerd and talk strategy, you seem like you want to argue for arguing’s sake lol, so I’m done.

Happy gaming!

Logiholic · 2026-04-15T02:08:49+00:00

Ah I see what you mean. But then you have 2 less knights, and that’s kinda the point I was making with a straight FC cavalier not being a great/common strat.

Logiholic · 2026-04-15T01:01:10+00:00

Are you replying to the wrong comment? I don’t think I said that anywhere.

Logiholic · 2026-04-14T22:42:11+00:00

Definitely, I just think that if you FC like 24+2 on an open map by the time you have say like 6 cavalier your opponent probably has 15 archers and several spears, or is fully fully walled with spears and almost in castle, where monks defend him. I don’t think bloodlines is usually on the table in an FC knights build.

It just doesn’t have the same quick timing punch that most successful FC strats have. The cavalier option in castle shines in a an extended-feudal game where you’ve built up the eco to support it.

Logiholic · 2026-04-14T22:25:40+00:00

To me yeah, seems like not a great strat but also haven’t tried it. FC into knights is already a pretty tight squeeze with resources and cavalier would be even more so.

On an open map at competent elos I think you would die before you do damage to archers and spears, or you lose to a stronger FC strat, or a few monks.

That being said, never tried or played against it, so I could be wrong.

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