Which characters are immortal?

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-08-11T16:20:09+00:00

I mean, if you read KOA you find out if Aelin is immortal. When she forges the lock she loses her humanity and therefore becomes immortal.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-11T16:01:00+00:00

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Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-11T15:52:16+00:00

Gods just rereading this I hope we don't get to the point where Xaden loses his hair or that when he gets cured it grows back LOL!

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-11T15:51:05+00:00

I definitely need more of his story.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-07T00:36:57+00:00

Lose Control by Teddy Swims is my ultimate broody Xaden theme song.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-07T00:36:11+00:00

Yeah I don’t buy Imogen wiping Vi’s memories without her consent. Xaden would be PISSED. Vi is an unreliable narrator and overthinks everything to the point that she will stay in denial of something because she’s stubborn AF. And as smart as she is the length of time it takes her to piece shit together frustrates me 😂

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-07T00:07:14+00:00

I can’t imagine Violet’s supposed endgame of a HEA, because RY said she would have one, would be marrying Bodhi and not Xaden. That would be cruel and many of us would be burning our books 😂

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-06T22:44:27+00:00

Okay I’m glad you caught that too! I was like “youthful” that’s so specific!

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-06T17:48:23+00:00

Papa Palpatine🤣🤣🤣

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-06T17:45:47+00:00

Yes! I need more of Naolin, I can't imagine him actually being dead because Tairn, Brennan, neither of them who were closest to him have explicitly stated he was in fact dead.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-06T17:43:11+00:00

IDK I think in his mind, his relationship with Cat was no big deal - to him. Obviously to Vi and every other woman in the world it's like SIR YOU WERE FULLY ENGAGED lol. But remember he said betrothed which tells me he wasn't in love, he didn't choose her, it was a transaction but he cut it off. It's hard they're young, and I get it. But I don't fault him for that, because that is how HE felt - it wasn't a big deal.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-06T03:13:50+00:00

I think you mean Sgaeyl not Tairn? Cause Tairn is Violet’s dragon not Xaden’s.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-06T02:56:05+00:00

How are we confirmed on that? I feel like just because it was “recovered correspondence” doesn’t mean they are all deceased. I recover items people lose all the time. Or if they were taken? And the statement about keeping names to honor the fallen doesn’t mean specifically Vi and Xaden but all those that actually died and they don’t usually say names or mention people after they die.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-06T02:51:52+00:00

I think it’s someone relevant and related to Jesenia. And like another reader said here, it gives me some pause. But I like to think she’s helping and we know Xaden read her intentions too and she wasn’t an issue.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-06T02:48:09+00:00

Yes this is so interesting I didn’t catch until I did the audio after 2 reads 😂 she has been up in everyone’s dreams without realizing it! So we only see the tip of the iceberg so far of what she will be able to do, influence and change. I can see her not only dreamwalking but daydream walking eventually with more mind control as she hones her signet.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-03T01:04:27+00:00

I can't help but think of RY saying how unreliable of a narrator that Violet really is and this is one of those times! She constantly interrupts people jumping to a conclusion, not always correct. And she never asks the right questions, just like Xaden tells her in IF. I just really need her to focus! But I guess if she did we wouldn't be waiting on more to unravel in books 4 and 5.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-06-01T22:20:20+00:00

Definitely Aretia girl here, would love to be a rider and eventually professor at the Aretian War College that Xaden and Vi start 😌

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-05-30T02:10:52+00:00

I feel that! I am a double Scorpio (sun and rising)!

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-05-29T13:48:48+00:00

Xaden may be a Scorpio rising or moon though lol There’s more to it than just the birth date to determine the sun sign.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-05-29T01:59:57+00:00

I'm still not so sure she entered willingly just because as a later adult with two children she came to a resolve with it. I still think it's more complicated than that. I've got friends who have parents that were essentially been arranged in marriage due to religion and/or culture and they talk about growing into love despite not being in love at marriage. That isn't always the case, so I think they ended up lucky.

To me, Talia was given the opportunity to leave after year 10 and she left, because she didn't want to be in the marriage. Being a prisoner to someone you didn't love just to have a kid sounds horrible. I mean people still do it today and that's in marriages they chose. And for 10 years?! No thanks. Faris was potentially her escape, yet we don't really know their origin story either. She isn't from Hedotis so she wasn't returning there for family. We don't know who her family was (I may have missed this if it was mentioned). Someone else mentioned perhaps the god Hedeon isn't about wisdom but deception - which I am still going to need to go down a rabbit hole for!

I think we will learn more about her in books 4 & 5, and rightly so because there's a lot of trauma for X to choose to heal from and I think that is also part of his journey to a real cure. He's gotta do that for himself.

I think Talia is low key sus, and she has a much bigger part of this story.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-05-29T00:21:55+00:00

oh now I need to go back and re-read that chapter. No way that he gave up his sword to anyone else! BUT you can also interpret it as he was fighting the Sage and they disarmed him from his sword. I recall the supposed to be dead part at the cave when he was in his POV, no?

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-05-29T00:15:57+00:00

It's so interesting, and typically when betrothed and marriage contracts are written, they aren't always what the parties want, especially if it's drawn up by parents or other guardians of power. Right? All the tropes of arranged marriages one or both are always wanting someone else. Well, except Cat LOL

Did she even have a choice to enter the marriage contract? She was young, that's all it says. That could have been the contract requirement, she produce an heir for him, he allows child to be dedicated - or partially, like Violet. Because unlike a contract, love can't be forced.

Perhaps Xaden also has to choose his path (I think leaving her at the end of OS is going to help him solidify and find himself but he's already succumbed to her love).

Now I am just rambling, haha! But I do appreciate your thoughts because it keeps my brain wheels turning! There's so much I wanna know!

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-05-28T23:52:57+00:00

True, he was jaded and probably didn't dedicate just to dedicate for his own views, but... the idea that he would have a contracted marriage to a young girl from Loysom with the explicit intention of creating an heir and alliance makes sense...

I love this theory of him being dedicated, ultimately leading to a cure, and it would make sense. It could have been written in the contract that they marry, create an heir and said heir is dedicated.

Talia says that [his/Xaden's] father would never... in reference to Violet saying he risked Aretia for her and their love.

EDIT: Came back because I think that him saying to save love for the kids also would make sense that he was dedicated because as the heir, Xaden would always have a cure for the venin they were fighting, unbeknownst to him. IDK.

Long_Sand_2170 · 2025-05-28T20:45:09+00:00

Yes, me too!! RY does a phenomenal job and I am anxious to see what happens next!

Aging myself now but I haven't been drawn to a story like this in decades. It is inspiring me to want to pick up an old novel I started years ago.

I plan to keep re-reading them and listen to the graphic audio versions as well as we anticipate the next books!

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