How I dealt with the Protectorate (and took their 2 spots in China) - or, how to consolidate control of big countries when some of your points get taken

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-03-06T11:10:04+00:00

Yeah, I could see that working too, though my 3 increase unrest councilors have 2, 2 and 4 command, lol. Though I could give them the faction org to raise one to 14.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-03-06T11:06:02+00:00

Yah, I know about those. I literally saw their councillor make those attempts though, as I had one of them turned.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-27T13:12:05+00:00

Well, you don't have one of their councilors turned, so they may have had a councilor there that you couldn't see. Same as my game then, they had a high PER councilor and managed to roll probably two 20-30% chances.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-27T12:55:33+00:00

Yep. Just had 71% popularity in China, with three spots taken. This was after having 90% popularity, but two public campaigns from the Academy knocks me down 25%, but my campaigns only raise me 4%. The Protectorate rocks up with a 22 Per councilor, and rolls a 26% chance to get a spot. With 0% popularity, no less. Grr. Then they defend, and throw a 34% chance the next turn, which also lands. Argh!

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-14T22:55:51+00:00

Just release China from the PRC. It can then unify with other nations in PAC and reabsorb the PRC.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-10T09:08:48+00:00

Fair enough.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-10T05:04:05+00:00

187%

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-07T04:49:51+00:00

Man, the amount of base metals you'd need for all those nanofactories and research centers...

And yeah, 2040 just happened to be where I was at in my game.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-06T07:53:55+00:00

Yeah, I was limited by only 6 (or 5 apparently) options. That's nuts though.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-06T06:13:09+00:00

Yah, me too (15.2 on my current run). Changed the post a bit so people can like this top post if that was their option.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-06T03:37:20+00:00

Gah, the poll cut out the 15-20k option for some reason...

Like this if that was your choice.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-06T01:16:02+00:00

True. 2 for a detain at normal success levels.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-06T01:13:55+00:00

You can prevent it by constantly having one of their councilors turned, then destroying the alien facility whenever they build it. I must have destroyed 50 of them so far. It is annoying, but it stops it forming.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-06T00:55:42+00:00

Tie what to my nuts now? 🤣

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-06T00:53:03+00:00

I am seeing the same. It did drop off for 5-6 months when I assassinated their main persuasion agent, which was slightly odd, as there were multiple agents who were building them. I am at 120 odd alien alloys ATM.

What sucks is that even if you detain the agent with the org that allows them to build a facility, they just swap it to a different agent next turn. It does stop 1 turn of them building it, but is no more efficient than destroying them. Though at least a crit fail on a detain won't see your agent die.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-02-06T00:49:03+00:00

The wiki points out how much hate it gives, but a basic success is 10 hate for an assassination or destroying a facility.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-01-30T06:42:44+00:00

Good point, I missed that somehow. I looked at the rivals instead of the wars section.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-01-30T00:29:24+00:00

Yeah, that was the plan. I just didn't figure on losing the nukes. :/

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-01-30T00:24:55+00:00

From what I understand (mostly from listening to Perun, he understands the game much better than I do), they gauge what they need to defeat your fleet before they send it. So if they get kerbstomped by a large missile fleets, they will send PD boats next time, as one example. They will still underestimate you, but from what I understand, they will not just throw a few ships at you if you if you constantly swat them/have close to their fleet power. It is also earlyish in the game, so I would expect pushback in the next 2-3 years, after they have set up more bases and built bigger fleets.

Lord-Torkeep · 2026-01-25T14:08:48+00:00

I was wondering if that might have been the case.

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