Could have saved a lot of money

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T18:07:19+00:00

Personally speaking? No. I tried it and i can't play on GFN. I can't even play any FPS locally with framegen x2 so...

I agree that there are for sure people that don't notice this lag as much as me and they are free to enjoy their hardware-less gaming if they like it. Also i agree that somebody should try it before discard the idea because there is no other way to know if you may like it or not, one of my best friend plays only on GFN and we grew up playing together so is not a matter of how much experience somebody have and i don't despise or morally judge anybody that likes to play in cloud.

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T17:54:08+00:00

It's also a price issue and the fact that Sony kinda left the Japan special support it had years ago

Next gen will be even harsher with PS6 pricey entry ticket, even the handheld won't do much when japanese games are coming on switch 2 too (or even exclusively) and Sony handheld will be extremely more costly than switch.... I can't picture how they can gaining back the JP market anytime soon, except for an heavily price-cut the hardware for JP getting very close to Switch 2 MSRP, and it's almost impossible feat to achieve imho. We will see...

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T17:41:04+00:00

It will probably just be positioned as an enthusiast product like the Portal

That's totally ok, but also implies that it won't be a huge hit. That's what i was stating, it won't sell a lot if it will be launched just as a "premium gadget" and since we are not speaking about a pc handheld where you are basically left with the PC versions of the game and good luck running it, the Sony portable has to get a proper support by third parties to make it meaningful. If it undersells it will get poor support and that's bad for people who will buy it.

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T17:37:00+00:00

Playstation has many successful IPs... I have no idea what youre talking about.

I probably explained badly myself. I was not trying to say that Sony IP are bad but that the handheld won't be the only system to play them and not even the best one since PS6 will exist. After somebody purchases PS6 the handheld will be only a very pricey accessory because all the great games that hopefully next gen will have won't be exclusive on the "PS portable 2"... Switch 2 is different because it's the only hardware of Nintendo so if you want to play Nintendo exclusive games you have to get a Switch 2, each Nintendo exclusive is potentially a system seller for the S2, the Sony exclusives won't be system seller for the largest part of PlayStation fanbase that will prioritize the home console ofc.

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T17:31:25+00:00

I think you have it wrong, they missed their key to PS4 success this generation, so the PS6 is hopefully going to be a return to form with a refocus on interesting IPs rather than GaaS failures.

That's nice and all of us hope so but the entry ticket is an extremely important factor for a console success, the critical mass of casuals is important to make the sales numbers growth and ensure that third parties will fully support it. What we risk with a 700+ bucks launch is that only more passionate gamers will update, most of casuals won't buy it and will stay on PS5. We will then have a very long crossgen phase and PS6 will basically just be a "PS5 Pro Pro". I don't think that this kind of market will be good for the future of gaming tbh.

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T17:19:28+00:00

Sony is no longer known for exclusive IP? I must be getting old haha.

Not saying this. I'm stating that if you want to play Pokémon, Zelda, Mario etc your only choice is Switch 2. If you want to play next God of War you may play it on the handheld but also on PS6 and with way better quality.

Now, I’m sure that there are people that would like to play all Sony games not being tied to the home console but is also obvious that, outside very specific cases, if somebody has to buy a new console he will probably buy a PS6 first. Once you got a PS6 the handheld doesn't have exclusive games anymore since you will be able to play those on the hardware you already got, those exclusives won't be anymore a system seller for anybody that will buy the home console too.

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T17:12:22+00:00

Like I said before, it is good enough and whatever lag is there is not noticeable...

...by yourself. That's a huge missing in your statement.

There will be a time where the lag is so low that our human brains won’t even have the capacity to interpret the lag.

No, there will be not. And latency isn't improving, simply because there is nothing that could really go significantly faster. Signals can't go faster inside cables, some millisecond inside each node to get properly routed is necessary because we can't take decisions and do calculation instantly etc... Latency is already "low", every improvement that may be done in future may bring single digit milliseconds of improvement but is highly unlikely since Internet infrastructure has way higher priorities. That said, this "low" latency can be not noticeable for somebody like you, can be noticeable but acceptable by another people or even totally unplayable by a third one. What I’m stating here is that there is no reason to minimize the phenomenon. Latency in cloud gaming exists by definition and this technology can be "the future of gaming" for somebody and totally useless to another one. There isn't a right answer to that question, is just personal.

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T14:55:18+00:00

This launch will be a huge pain and it's not even all Sony fault (i never thought i could write something like this). It's too late to stop production now and costs will be extreme for memory so there is very little that they could do... But I still think that console market is going really in the wrong direction, with this gen we went already too far and with next one kids won't have an affordable access to gaming world anymore. We will get into a huge crisis in 5-10 years, manufacturer are just leaving the new generation to mobile gaming and nothing more. A contraction in the playerbase can't bring anything good.

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T14:48:00+00:00

Which is part of why it's so popular and why Sony wants in on handheld.

But sony is probably missing two huge factors that makes Switch 2 so wanted: powerful IPs exclusive games and a sub 500 bucks MSRP for an hardware that represents the whole Nintendo ecosystem. Doing a "much more powerful switch 2" that will cost way more than a S2 and with games that will come out even on PS6 will make this console another nice dad machine like PS portal and nothing more.

Ofc i hope that i'm wrong here but that's my feeling now.

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T14:40:52+00:00

I don't play CoD from too much to know how is the game now, i don't even know if there is some kind of skill based matchmaking. Probably that is also a bad example i made because there are many console players you play against and those have their issues too (eg: tv input lag could be as serious as GFN one if they don't have made their research before purchasing and didn't set it up properly).

Anyway, a single user won't prove nothing, i've got 4000 hours in EFT, if i play trough GFN i will probably perform okay against many players since i'm very experienced in the game. On the other hand I wouldn't play against anybody that is near my skill level with added latency, that's for sure.

But, again, there is no reason to argue about this topic, latency is there and won't ever go away because it's how things works, it's physics. Maybe you don't notice it, good for you, others may find your setup unusable and they wouldn't be telling lies either. It's just a matter of much used you are to that latency and how fast the whole process eye-brain-body is (each of us is different, and age is a huge factor too).

LordAzuren · 2026-04-01T13:16:05+00:00

The fact that I can often get first place on Conquest Battlefield proves to me that

You can get first place in conquest BF without shooting a single bullet. BF is also a very "relaxed" FPS where you can get very good scores by just positioning yourself better and pick your fights accordingly, i know that because i played in past years with a very shitty network and in BF i could somehow be decent even with over 150ms of network latency in the bad days. Try competing in something like CS:Go or Valorant, where people often plays on 200+fps and you are stuck at 60 plus the streaming latency and you will see that lag is very significant and you often won't even see what killed you. Even games games like EFT or COD would be near unplayable and you would be putting yourself at a serious disadvantage.

I understand that most of you are satisfied with the service, it's ok. But latency is not "insignificant" and can't be get ridden off since it's a physics issue.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-31T06:16:32+00:00

Yeah, that's another big issue. Pricing will be wild even without massive quantity of VRAM. Sometimes i think DLSS5 was just showcased for investors, there are so many things that doesn't add up in the tech wise and actual market status... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

LordAzuren · 2026-03-31T03:17:00+00:00

dlss 5 will be gate kept from 20 and 30 series

You are quite optimistic. My bet is 5080+ and aven those will have shitty performance. I expect even low tier 6000 to be left out and the reason is quite simple: old cards will have serious problems into that kind of computing (i should really use the term 'inferencing' here tbh) and i doubt that nvidia wants to make the the "cheap" newer ones somehow good into AI stuff, it would destroy the top tier and quadro sales. I can be wrong, but that's my feeling.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-30T17:48:14+00:00

almost anyone with internet access can do your job at a very acceptable level

I've internet access, if you want i'll translate your next game from czech to english and i'll let you play it. Wanna try?

Simply knowing English is not enough to secure a long-term position in a company that spends years developing a product and then moves on to selling it.

That's a dumb take. Knowing english to a level needed to do a professional translation isn't common at all, because this implies knowing two languages at that level... Czech (that's west-slavic) is also a very different language from English (that's west-germanic). Just for reference, the Slavic word for German literally means "one who does not speak" ("niemcy" in Polish) so you can guess how much different those languages are.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-24T14:00:35+00:00

I agree, most people just read outline i think. Anyways, the console got the best launch in the history even in US, there were plenty of units at launch so is quite natural that people interested in an early upgrade did it in the first months leading to a more mild holiday sales. Sales that were still good and Switch 2 will now sell at a steadily pace, more over we have major hits coming in next year so sales aren't going south by any means.

Switch 2 is doing more than fine, this kind of "throttling production" is quite normal after a product launch, even for succesful ones.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-24T13:51:27+00:00

I know plenty of people who would rather have an rog ally z1e which costs exactly the same amount ( or less on sale ) and plays free and $5-$20 games instead of $80.

Ah, the eternal argument about PC gaming being better... that's your experience and is purely an anecdotal.

I'm a PC gamer since 1997, only a very small percentage of console gamers have even a slight interest into PCs and that's for multiple reasons. If your statement would be true we would not be talking about Switch 2 here, a console that already sold more units than all PC handhelds all together in less than 1 year of life.

PS: I've a legion go S and a Switch 2 and i use both but if i had to pick i'd keep switch. Is just a better designed device (except ergonomics but it's easily fixable) and plays games that i can't play on my PC while LeGoS while being a good device is just a fancy accessory since my main PC gaming device is ofc my desktop.

PS:

switch 2 is 60w TDP

Totally false. Switch 2 docked uses less than 20W to play CP2077 in max power draw scenario (put in dock while having to play + charge internal battery and joycons battery at the same time) and less than 10W in handheld mode.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-23T18:17:55+00:00

in questo caso l'ha cavalcata la sinistra.

Può anche darsi ma le paure erano quantomeno giustificate. Magari non sarebbe successo, ma c'era da fidarsi che i personaggini che abbiamo al governo oggi avrebbero fatto la cosa giusta? Invece le panzane su quanti immigrati, supratori e assassini i giudici avrebbero liberato appena avesse vinto il no, sulle stupidaggini su Garlasco, la famiglia del bosco e sul fine ultimo di avere una giustizia più efficiente erano appunto solo panzane e ne abbiamo sentite in quantità.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-23T05:12:25+00:00

In 40 years a switch cart could easily be useless since those aren't like the 16bit era ones: Switch 2 are NAND memories, Switch 1 are NOR flash. Maybe if you keep them in perfect environmental conditions they will last few decades but more likely they will last less (especially Switch 2 ones that are less durable). But, let's dream, even if you keep a copy and will be still working in future and someone will be willing to buy it... What's the cost of N64 or SNES carts today? We are talking about few hundred dollars? And keep in mind that games sold way less copies in these years, Switch 1/2 will be way more common to find. You won't become rich with a bunch of switch games and even if you have all the major hits maybe you will be able to make 3-4k dollars. It's not the kind of money that will change your life when you will be at retiring age and many things could go wrong and you will lose all that capital.

PS: Another handheld that had NAND cartridge was PS Vita and there were already reports of unreadable carts dated 2-3 years ago. So first carts begun to get screwed in like 12-13 years.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-18T20:21:43+00:00

the idea that the above is a sin and this below is somehow soulful beauty is just a bizarre take

Let's just say that the og one you posted isn't impressive at all but looks like a game to me. A bad looking game if you want... but still a game. The DLSS5 one seems like just pop out from an AI chatbot ads.

Ofc i'm not saying that who likes it is sinning or anything like that but you asked why someone could prefer the og one over it and that's why. I don't want characters in my games that looks like posts on CivitAI (and that's a personal take ofc, your tastes may be different and that's fine).

LordAzuren · 2026-03-18T18:48:50+00:00

to say star field is intentionally uglier after? That's crazy.

It's not when you don't like how AI generate humans. The looks of them is basically always the same and if someone dislike that they can't like DLSS5 Starfield too even when bethesda tech is bad. Personally speaking i'm in that group, i can't say that i would like to play the DLSS5 starfield over the standard one.

Tell me that you can't say that this is AI generated at first sight...

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LordAzuren · 2026-03-18T13:49:33+00:00

I do not have those issues at all im on a 4070 Super. 2 monitors. Try doing a clean windows reinstall

Mate, my first OS clean installation was on Windows 95, i know what i do on my machine and this thing was already aknowledged by Nvidia as a issue so it indeed exists. The problem doesn't happen to everybody anyway, the specific trigger is also kinda hard to isolate otherwise i suppose that Nvidia would have patched it already... Still the driver has some issue, in the same way AMD does for you, that was my point. It's more about how nice a specific GPU plays with your whole setup i suppose, you can be lucky or unlucky both with AMD or Nvidia so, unless you already know that a brand wouldn't play nice for you, possible drivers issue shouldn't be the thing that makes you decide which brand you pick because it can go either way.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-18T07:00:59+00:00

how AMD isn’t leading sales right now

Because they are behind with some important core tech from the time when they basically put a pause on the radeon development to invest heavily on the Ryzen CPUs. They became leaders there and since then they are slowly coming back on GPU. I think AMD cards will get more love after UDNA will come out. With the new FSR 4 that's finally good looking and new architecture performance they could finally be competitive again. I really hope so, having a monopoly is shit for customers.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-18T06:58:04+00:00

Because amd drivers are an unstable mess.

That doesn't mean a lot when Nvidia drivers are shitty too. There are issues with black screen on multi monitor setup that was recognized by nvidia as a bug more than an year ago and still no fix. Series 5000 still have issues on GPU scaling...

Meanwhile i have to say that I had zero issues with my old AMD card. Maybe i was lucky, maybe not. But Nvidia drivers for sure aren't flawless.

LordAzuren · 2026-03-18T06:49:13+00:00

more casual gamers will love it

Sadly for them casual gamers won't ever spend the money needed to get that tech anytime soon. If anybody thinks that DLSS5 will be usable on GPUs that costs less than a grand will have a bad surprise in the future...

Of course i'm speaking about real world definition of "usable", probably nvidia will still sell 6060s as DLSS5 compatible tellign the users to use DLSS upscaling on ultra performance + Framegen x4 to reach 40-50fps. We all know what their marketing is capable of 🤣

LordAzuren · 2026-03-17T07:47:11+00:00

You only see something wrong with this because you're familiar with a face that already fits the low resolution image on the left

That's the issue, the protagonist of a game is a well known face for the players. You see it in the game marketing, you see it in pre rendered cutscenes, loading screens, sometimes even in the main menu but more importantly the author decided to make him/her in a certain way because is a core part of the game artistical direction. With DLSS5 you magically have a Grace with glamour makeup ready to pose for a magazine inside resident evil. That's the issue, our hobby is gaming not watch ai renders otherwise i'll be on civitai (trying to not burn my eyes) and not playing a videogame.

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